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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:52 PM
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Need assistance finding a NeoCon quote.
I believe it was Wolfowitz or Perle who said that the Bush Administration creates their own reality which the world can study, or something to that effect.

I would appreciate a citation of this conversation. I need it for an article I'm writing.

Many thanks.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:54 PM
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1. It sounds like Perle because he is the enforcer of Ideological purity
google Richard Perle quotes, then do the same with Wolfowitz.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:55 PM
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2. was it this Suskind article?
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1255665600&en=890a96189e162076&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

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In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:00 PM
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4. Right. They're creating a history of total failure.
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burf Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:15 PM
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6. Sounds like a quote right out of 1984. n/t
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:04 PM
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5. Thank you.
This is it.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:57 PM
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3. here you are
"Journalist Ron Suskind relates a chilling conversation he had in 2002 with a senior aide to George W. Bush, who taunted Suskind for being a person from “what we call the reality-based community.”

The Bush aide said this “reality-based community” consists of people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” Suskind nodded in agreement and muttered something favorable about the principles of the Enlightenment, only to be cut off by the aide.

“That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” the Bush aide told the journalist. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to study what we do.”"

www.consortiumnews.com/2004/101904.html
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