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colorado thinker (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 10:53 PM Original message |
Oh. My. God. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. this crisis could not have occurred at a worse time for the U.S.... |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Ed Zachery.... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 05:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. It was the US oil tzars |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 05:37 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Ah, the hope we had back then |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Reagan came along and made greed cool. May he rot in Hell. |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. I remember it well. I watched an intelligent, liberal university community |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 09:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
51. And I was so glad to see that he got a |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 08:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Holy F***ing Sh*t! I never read that! -- thanks Malaise! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It was Carter's most important speech and |
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long_green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. reading that speech, I'm surprised Carter lived to see the '80 election |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Imagine a President untied to the Oil Lobby making this speech today |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I would love someone on progressive radio or |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. but, ronnie raygun promised us it was "morning in America...", we didn't |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. No wonder the repubs Swift Boated him with the hostage crisis. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. sigh |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. Bookmarking this already good thread due to Carter's speech |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Here's an interesting response |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 02:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. "both refreshingly candid and tragically prescient" |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 06:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. It is not how I view |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 07:09 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Late 70's political dynamics... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Yes I know that |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Can't help you there... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Thanks |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Much has been said about the ME oil supplies drying up |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. It's not about 'drying up'. It's about oil becoming unprofitable to pump. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. So the morally repugnant thing to do is steal the oil from Iran? |
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colorado thinker (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Exactly |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
59. Naw, IRAQ Should have plenty for now... |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. Greg Palast has an alternate theory .... |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That sounds like the Government I know! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 02:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. His argument makes a lot of sense to me. And explains each detail of what |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 05:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Keeping oil prices very high also makes harder to extract oil more |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Palast really dropped the ball. Please read Heinberg's letter to him. |
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emmadoggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #41 |
52. I read a very scary article in Rolling Stone a while back about Peak Oil.. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Yeah, it's hard to get friends and relatives to REALLY understand Peak Oil |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. That rings true for me. The greedy fucks. |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. Then we'd better find a way |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I thought the oil reserves in Venezuela were larger than those in Iran |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. In this case reserves matter much less than flow rates. |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
57. Actually, there's Considerable Secrecy on that Subject... |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
58. More to the point, however: Venezuela's Oil Reserves are "Unconventional" |
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colorado thinker (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. But they would have the world over a barrel only as long as we |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 11:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Or at best a govt who wasn't tied to ME profits |
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Chipster (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 04:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. We have alternatives, but we have to develop and use them... |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Is "Who killed the electric car" going to play in theatres? |
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suziedemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Check out this roof-top wind mill that produces 1100kWh/month! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 08:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Do Americans want to listen? Or are they so patsy they won't want change? |
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thecrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
12. K&R |
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Comadreja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. I have hated the car culture since I can remember |
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MisterHowdy (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
24. Good riddens. |
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vickitulsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
26. Not only do military methods USE energy and wreck the planet |
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tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
50. Very astute post, thank you...n/t |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
27. OMG! is right!!!! K&R |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. How solid is this story and it's source? |
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jpkenny (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Which story? Carter's plan or the story from the insider? |
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colorado thinker (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 05:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. How solid is the story? |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. It's going to happen at some time anyway |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
38. what is that about water-injection? |
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colorado thinker (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. As I understand it, they force saline into the fields |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I'll add my own meagre knowledge to the pot |
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colorado thinker (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 06:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Excellent points |
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leftupnorth (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. water injection is common on declining fields. |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
60. HOLY SHIT!....We are chop liver! |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
61. This may be a scoop to the public at large |
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