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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:37 PM
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If you were to move out of the state you currently live
which state would you choose?
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:37 PM
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1. Washington
:hippie:
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CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:38 PM
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2. Vermont
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:12 PM
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18. Yup. Have had it with assholes all around...

...though the particular place where I am has a low-asshole quotient, comparative to the rest of the state.

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CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:26 PM
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24. I live in a blue state
BUT I live in red central lol.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:43 AM
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42. So do I. Just cause they are dems...
...doesn't mean they can't be assinine. At least in VT there are less of them.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:05 AM
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145. Yes, Yes, Yes
or Washington....
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:16 AM
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147. If You Don't Ski and You're Not an Alcoholic
Vermont can be a tough place to live. Average town polulation size is maybe 1k-5k. And best plan on being self-employed if you want to make a good income.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:38 PM
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3. New York
But I'll probably be moving to Utah next year...lol
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:39 PM
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4. Any Good "Blue" one
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:13 PM
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21. Ditto n/t
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:17 PM
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23. What sucks is that Blue states are sooo expensive
at least that is what I heard. But I would not mind as long as there's better services and more chances for great education.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:28 PM
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79. There is some truth to what you say...
I live in Rhode Island - blue and expensive. But very beautiful.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:36 PM
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89. It works that way within states and cities, too. Wonder why?
In Wisconsin, for example, wildy blue Madison is very expensive (housing), while the red parts of the state (most of the state) are very affordable. Even within Madison, the "bluer" parts of town are substantially more expensive than the areas where Bush's approval rating gets above 5% (I'm just guessing about the percent).

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:31 AM
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149. Uhh, because "red places suck"? (NT)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:40 PM
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5. Oregon.
Fo' Sho'.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:48 PM
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11. What is a good community for artists?
I have been wanting to make a trip to Oregon for their beautiful pine trees.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:55 PM
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14. I don't know, really. Although I've heard good things about Bend.
Also, Portland Area.

Only time I've ever been up there was years ago, to Eugene. It was beautiful. Very, very green.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:46 PM
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30. Thanks impeachdubya, and scarletwomen.
I will have some names of cities and locations to research. I need a little road trip.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:27 AM
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39. The Oregon Coast is great for artists too...
plus... it's beautiful.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 05:29 PM
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107. Personally, I love Yachats on the coast for artistic places.! n/t
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:11 PM
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152. You should really check out Pacific City sometime.
They have an "art Walk" every Thursday evening during the summer that hits all the galleries (At least they did when I lived there). It's a very fun little town.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:28 PM
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86. Oregon is where I'd go.
Definitely the Portland area. I lived there for several years as a teenager, until I finished college. I'd move there tomorrow if my kids didn't love their friends and school where we are now.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:02 PM
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16. Ashland Oregon, at least for theater. But I think it's pretty artsy
in general. Southern Oregon is gorgeous, from the northern rim of the Colestine Valley you can see Mount Shasta. It's close to Northern California and the beautiful Trinity National Forest.

sw
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:25 AM
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38. You don't come to Oregon for the pine trees...
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 12:26 AM by Blue Belle
You come for the fir trees... and the wine. :)
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:14 AM
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56. MMMMmmm!!! WINE!!!!
Me loves wine!!
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:35 AM
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47. Douglas fir trees.
Oregon is a great state. My choice. Weather's better than Washington's. Friendly people. Places in Califronia are great, but real estate is sky high everywhere.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:22 PM
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131. Tubac, Arizona
is a great little artist community.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:36 AM
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41. Live in Oregon now and can't imaging leaving for anywhere else
in the states. Victoria, NZ, or Ireland are the next closest places I'd (I'm) consider(ing).

I like green (well Blue with lots of vegetation)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:24 PM
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76. You mean Idaho's Portugal
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:40 PM
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6. Montana n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:40 PM
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7. I can't imagine
any state I'd prefer to Vermont. There are lots of beautiful places, but this state suits me.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:41 PM
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8. Any other state would be an improvement
I live in (J)Oklahoma.
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:43 PM
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9. i live in kentucky
have all my life, and it is beautiful.but, if i move, it will be to california
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:51 PM
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104. I always liked Kentucky when I worked there, especially the Lexington
Versailles area. I've always hesitated to make a move there because of the dramatic two tiered society I saw. I'm not sure if that is reality, but I have been there several times over the years, and that's what I saw.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:44 PM
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10. Confusion
My current state is Poverty.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:49 PM
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12. Northern Idaho or western Montana. n/t
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:00 PM
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63. I kinda like Montana too, Cleita.
Some areas of Montana are conservative, others are not, and I deal with that now here in Illinois anyway.

Frankly, if I ever leave Illinois it would probably be for someplace in the Canadian Rockies.

Not that I would.

It isn't like I've ever considered it.

It probably would never happen...


Laura
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:09 PM
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64. They are very conservative there as well, but I like
it because the wilderness hasn't been destroyed yet. Idaho has beautiful lakes set in the forests. They actually need more liberals there before the conservatives completely destroy it with the clear cutting and pollution of streams and lakes. They have already ruined Flathead lake in Montana with development as well.

I can't live up there anymore, but when I did I just put up with the conservatives. There was more at stake than worrying about a bunch of ignorant freepers, who incidentally know what's going on but feel powerless to stop the degradation of the land. I hope more environmentalists take up the challenge of moving in to reverse the trend of systematic destruction in what is IMHO one of the most beautiful places still left on this planet.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:54 PM
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13. "IF" ?!? I AM! I'm getting out of OHIO!
:bounce: Any blue state would be fine with me. I spent several years in PA
:bounce: (Pittsburgh) and liked the area. I naively thought that west PA and
:bounce: east OH had enough in common that I wouldn't mind moving to
:bounce: OH. But ... OH has much "redder" politics. And I ended up in the
:bounce: far NW of OH ... I'm willing to swear that things must get worse
:bounce: as you move either north or west across OH. I spent a summer
:bounce: working in Columbus and mostly liked it. Could get by without a
:bounce: car and still visit interesting places, at least where I was staying.
:bounce: But Toledo ... ick. This area used to be known as the "Great Black
:bounce: Swamp". It could have stayed that way, for all I care.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:12 PM
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19. Quit bragging!
:)
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:35 AM
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150. New York - Saratoga Springs area is beautiful
Saratoga itself is expensive, but smaller towns in the area are more reasonable. Lots of culture, 1/2 hour from Albany, NY, Saratoga is a great small city, the track in August, the Adirondacks and Lake George 1/2 hour north. Wonderful life up here!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:01 PM
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15. Oregon or Washingon
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:09 PM
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17. California, California, California, California, California (d'uh!)
Bay Area ... without a doubt
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:13 PM
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20. Are you concerned about earthquakes?
earthquakes :scared: :scared: :scared:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:45 PM
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29. Nope. Lived there for 15 years. Rode Loma Prieta.
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 11:45 PM by TahitiNut
I'll take a 7.0 earthquake every 15-20 years instead of snow, ice, windstorms, falling trees, and the other crap that comes every winter here. Besides that, we've had 2 lightening stikes in this single block in the last 3 years. (They don't bug me as much, though.) I miss the people of the Bay Area most.

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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:43 AM
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49. I see you previously lived in Los Gatos ;
quite different from Minn. Los Gatos area is lovely but growing up and out. Had many great times riding in the hills. Ah, those balmy velvet California summer nights....
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:15 PM
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66. I'm with you TahitiNUT! I love California with all my heart


I've lived in the South, East and Mid West and I'll take the magic of California any day of the week.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:54 AM
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53. Let's see: tornados and hurricanes EVERY year vs. big quakes every 50 yrs.
Tough choice. :hi:

There's no place on the planet that's completely safe from Mother Nature. You just try to plan wisely, and then cross your fingers.

BTW, if I had to go to another state, it would be Portland, Oregon. The cost of living there is still better than where I am now.

Hekate

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:30 AM
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46. Not me. I'd be ABC
Anywhere but California. But probably some northern parts would suit me even there, like Yreka or Corning. Even Ridgecrest in the south, might be far enough away from LA. Jersey looks a little bit more problematic - hard to get away from a huge metro area.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:16 PM
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22. Since I like to fish, I'd have to pick Northern Minnesota..
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:31 PM
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26. Me too!
I don't fish but the last time I drove cross-country northern Minnesota struck me as one of the few non-coastal places I'd live in the U.S. If only the winters weren't so punishing...
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:31 AM
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44. I like the cold and I like being around beautiful lakes
so if we ever left Wisconsin, I would move to Minnesota. My daughter just graduated from the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and we came to love it there. I'm originally from Pennsylvania and I love it there too, but just too many people there for me now. I've also become "mid-westernized" and appreciate "Minnesota Nice" so it would be an easy move (except I could never root for the Vikings, it would still be Packers all the way, win or lose)!

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:27 PM
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25. Oregon
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:39 PM
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27. You mean if money were no object?
New England, please. Anywhere in New England would do, but Vermont, New Hampshire or Maine sound especially nice. How about a nice house in Bar Harbor, Maine? Can I have one, please?
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:34 AM
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40. It's gotta be.....
New Hampshire...with a state motto that says....

"Live free or die"...that's the place for me...and I was there in January, when the temp was ahhhhh, -16...-20...but it was beautiful with all the snow...
windbreeze
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 05:32 PM
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108. "live, freeze, and die"... sorry.. -16?? ack!
New Hampshire looks so wonderful, just don't know if I could that sub-zero cold thing!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:42 PM
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28. Miami, Brooklyn or San Francisco n/t
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:56 PM
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31. Arkansas
I'm in Oklahoma now. Arkansas is near enough so that the climate & cost of living is close to what I'm accustomed to. Plus I would still be close to family in Oklahoma & Texas.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:39 PM
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102. I used to live in northwest Arkansas in the mid 1960s
The Ozark region was gorgeous, with some of the most spectacular natural scenery I have ever enjoyed (and I've lived all over the U.S.). But now, with all the development and growth, it's been completely ruined forever. Sadly, I think that's the case with much of the United States.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 05:23 PM
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105. I love the Ozark region
Parts of it is still beautiful, at least to me. I live on the open plains in Oklahoma so any place with lots of trees & hills is a nice change of scenery.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:04 AM
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32. Back home, OREGON
I hate this humidity.
Cant eat the fish, cant drive anywhere that there aren't a million other cars...did I mention the god damned humidity?

I want to hike into a high lake, camp and fish for a week, and not see 1 other person.
Man, I miss Oregon
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:08 AM
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34. Where are you now?**nm
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:20 PM
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67. Delaware
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:21 PM
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75. Though I've never been to Delaware...
...if you've ever been to the Gulf Coast, you'll know I can relate to any grievance with humidity.
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PoplarForest3 Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 05:40 PM
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112. I spent many a summer working in Biloxi, MS
and in the days before sunscreen. I would start landscaping jobs at sunrise just to try and beat part of the heat and humidity!
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:07 AM
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33. Washington or Oregon...
...I've heard lots of good things about Portland OR over the last couple of years. Well, everything was good except for the lack of jobs there.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:19 AM
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35. Leave? Leave California?
Why would I ever want to leave California (assuming I hadn't been sentenced to some hellhole like Yuba City)?

OK, if I had to move (and I wasn't already on my way to Australia), the choice would be easy: Hawaii.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:43 PM
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80. exactly
After California, comes Europe- probably Germany or Belgium. Why leave paradise? Even though we have earthquakes, fires and floods, no place is perfectly safe. Not planning on leaving anytime soon.

Happy California Native.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:41 PM
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93. Pssst, kineneb...
When out-of-staters call us crazy for living with the threat of earthquakes, I just remind them there's no such thing as an earthquake season every year -- unlike tornado season, monsoon season, typhoon season... ;)

(I can't remember the last earthquake I actually felt in the past decade.)
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:41 PM
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103. yup
just call it "interactive geology"

I was in the Bay Area during Loma Prieta and did feel it. Now we live on the shore of an extinct volcanic caldera (Clear Lake) and across the lake from a small volcano. So big deal.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:20 AM
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36. Not just another state
British Columbia
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:23 AM
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37. New York... or DC...
just because I'm considering grad schools there. Otherwise, I'm happy to live in Oregon. :)
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:07 AM
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43. The Carribean. If I moved, I wouldn't stay in the US -
although I may change my mind after Nov 2008.
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blue agave Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:14 AM
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45. Just got back from NorCal coast -
I met someone from Denver who was on their way back from Alaska. They were expecting to be wowed by 49, but claimed to have enjoyed BC a lot more.

Fwiw: I think the southern Oregon coast deserves a closer look. Anyone familiar with the Brookings area ?

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 05:37 PM
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110. Just got back from an Oregon Coast trip.
Brookings is a bit different than the rest of Oregon coast. As you get further south, of say.. Florence, it looks more California coastish. Brookings may be part of the "banana belt" on the coast, with less rain. The Oregon coast is the prettiest coast on the west coast, hands down. And I've been from San Diego up to B.C. on the coast. Winters are rugged on most of the oregon coast, but the southern end has a few odd spots with little rain. Many places are very artsy. Brookings, I think , is a big retirement area. Some places, like Coos Bay are very conservative, lots of logging industry workers and former workers. I love Yachats above Florence.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:39 AM
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48. A state close to the Canadian border
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:47 AM
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50. British Columbia. That's a state isn't it?
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:32 AM
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59. You ARE kidding, right?
At least I hope so.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:18 AM
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51. Back home, to Alaska...:)
I miss the ocean badly!...and the moderate temps... :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:26 PM
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68. Oh man how can you stand hillbilly country?
I would want to go back to Alaska too. LOL
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:14 PM
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70. especially with this damn heat
wave, and lack of rain...my hometown gets on average 160-200 inches a rain a year...I never thought I would miss the rain, but I do... :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:17 PM
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71. We are in a drought
that has lasted for about 10 years.

But the humidity is horrid after it rains. So it is more comfortable to have a dry summer.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:19 PM
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72. we have been in one in sw missouri
since may/april of last year...we are way below average on rain fall. Its hurting the cattle farmers here, primarily because the hay isn't growing well, and the cattle ranchers aer forced to buy hay, at high prices.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:27 AM
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52. Spain.....
But I don't live in a state anyway so if I had to move it would be to another country.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:21 PM
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74. Barcelona? Madrid? n/t
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:02 PM
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96. Catalonia area n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:16 AM
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54. I live in PA.; no extreme weather, earthquakes, mud-slides, tornados,
and only the occasional flood in my region. Why move?!

But to play here: I'd choose Maine. Love the shoreline, lobster, antiquing, and general atmosphere.


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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:42 PM
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60. I agree, Pennsylvania is a great place to live
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 12:46 PM by PADemD
But my second choice would be Virginia. Beautiful country, with mountains and shore...and better roads than Pennsylvania.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 05:07 AM
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55. Queensland!
I guess you were asking this question of Americans, but I thought I'd throw in my 0.02 cents worth :)
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:39 PM
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116. Can we come there too? n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:21 AM
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57. Moved from Oregon to Washington. Back to Oregon..if I had to.
Moved from Los Angeles to Oregon 25 years ago. Have never looked back (tho' I do miss the Eucalyptus trees and mockingbirds). Loved Oregon, but like Washington even more.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:31 AM
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58. Washington rocks...
Ive lived in NY, VA, FL, CA, & TX and by far I like WA the best and am never leaving :) I hate the heat CA and TX.. and Im not fan of how CA turns so damn brown either.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 05:38 PM
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111. That's what got me out of California is the first place..
just couldn't deal with the heat that overcomes you just 10 miles inland from the ocean. And it's like brown 9 months out of the year! I love Washington, where I am now, because it's so clean and green all the time.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:49 PM
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61. If You Live In West Virginia Where Else Could You Possibly Go?
If they come for us here you all will have all ready been taken care of.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 12:49 PM
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62. Goodbye, Oklahoma! New Mexico, here I come!
I can't wait till spring!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:10 PM
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65. Vermont
Reminds me the most of where I am now.
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:13 PM
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69. Northern Minnesota
Beautiful countryside, friendly people.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:20 PM
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73. None, I'd leave the country.
I'm just being snarky.

Right now, it looks like Orlando, Florida is where I'm heading. It's for employment-related reasons.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:50 PM
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123. AAAAHHH!!! DON'T DO IT!!!!!!
This city is horrible (not related to beauty). This place is BORING!!

You won't be able to find a half decent house for less than $250,000.

This city has the worse school system. (A) grade schools are normally around rich neighborhoods so if you are like most around here with the economy sustained by low paying jobs, your kids are in trouble. Freepers blame the poor school system to the amount of hispanic kids in the city but no money goes to schools. Some schools are like educational "trailer parks". Since there aren't many schools, the state was forced to build schools using "trailers".

You can only visit Disney and Universal Studios for so many times. After that, there's nothing! Unless of course you like Golf.

Traffic is bad, drivers are worse. Long commutes. Most apartment buildings are being sold as CONDOS as a way to drive the poor out of the city since they won't be able to find a place to live.

Crime is VERY high but you won't hear that in the news. You know, they want to keep people coming to FL for their vacations.

It is a "Right to Work" state.


Good things about IOrlando: Golf, weather (when there's not hurricanes) it is still Democrat (DINOcrat, not good... but could be worse).
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:28 PM
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77. Vermont. nt/
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:28 PM
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78. VT, Western MA or PA
I'd love to live in the Berkshires, but that's not a very practical idea. Vermont is my idea of a great state, but it's probably gotten too expensive and I'm not sure I'd be up to the winter that far north. Probably PA.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:32 PM
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114. I grew up in western MA, the beautiful Berkshires
and that is where I am going back to, eventually.

Vermont is beautiful, fiercely progressively independant. I'm used to cold new england winters, live near boston now.

slower pace of life out in the rural areas would suit me- western MA - VERY democratic.
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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:15 AM
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151. Pittsburgh
post-plunder, ain't nowhere to go but up.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:44 PM
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81. I did that last year.
CA to OR.

I don't know where I'd go if I moved out of this state. I love the west. That leaves Washington or Canada.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:13 PM
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82. Washington State...
Somewhere up in the mountains near the coast. Or maybe some place with a really awesome public transportation system.
Duckie
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:14 PM
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83. Sanity...n/t
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:25 PM
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84. I live in NY.
Can't imagine living anywhere else in the states, I would prefer to live in Europe if I ever left NYC.

If I absolutely HAD to, I would probably go to Boston, MA, Portland, ME, Providence RI, Portsmouth, NH or Burlington, VT
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:27 PM
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85. What not.... Missourah? n/t
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:36 PM
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88. Oh, yeah, well of course Missourah!
That just goes without saying. ;)
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:39 PM
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92. Thanks for typing my state name correctly...
yankee!
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:51 PM
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94. No problem, redneck!
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:03 PM
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97. Half redneck actually...
...half mexican. Both sides like to drink a lot of beer.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:29 PM
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87. Wisconsin, up by LaCrosse
Pretty country, nice folks....
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:37 PM
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90. North Central New Mexico
It's blue in the north, but more for the weather and scenery.
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:38 PM
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91. Virginia
I lived there before and would love to move back. Even in Northern Virginia, where we were, people were more polite and I enjoyed the way of life.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:51 PM
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95. san diego, california if i could afford it.
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:36 PM
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115. San Diego dreaming
lived there from 72 - 92. Miss miss miss miss.

But, expensive and hard to find good paying jobs.

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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:43 PM
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117. the house i live in now would cost me $3-4 million in san diego.
i do love phoenix just not in the summer. lol
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:07 PM
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120. Yeah, know what you mean. I was looking at jobs
and real estate just to see if there might be anything ..... a rotten old shack is over 2x what I am paying for nice place here, but there is one little drawback:

living in Georgia (which BTW feels like living on the sun right now)!

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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:09 PM
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121. i say phoenix in the summer is like living in a large convection
oven. lol
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:07 PM
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98. New York or California
Or some other country altogether.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:11 PM
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99. Canada eom
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:01 PM
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124. Been there...
no thanks. I was in Quebec and people was pretty rude. My hubby was raised there and he won't move back. He said maybe to BC or Vancouver but definitely not Quebec.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:35 PM
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136. I've got family
in Ontario, Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. I won't have any problem. :)
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dannofoot Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:14 PM
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100. Hawaii. The Big Island.
In a heartbeat.

Hilo...Kona...Hawi, I don't care whether it's the wet side or dry side.

Diving. Snorkeling. Fishing. Ahi poke, anyone?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:18 PM
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101. Oaxaca.
:hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:13 PM
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129. Quisiera conocer Oaxaca
:hi:
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:20 PM
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130. I heard the food is great!
I'll love to go some day. I have been to Mexico several times but never to Oaxaca. Maybe in the future.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 05:28 PM
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106. Interesting. I'm a lifelong Californian who moved to Washington..
3 years ago. It's really lovely here, the weather is great, the people are friendly. Lots to do, and I can't get over how green it is! Having said that... I am starting to miss the unique California-ness of where I lived... Grew up in Pasadena (love it without the heat, though), and moved to the beaches as soon as I was out of high school. Lived in the coast for years and years, moving progressively north until I stopped in San Luis Obispo County. There is a certain vibe that California has, that you can't really capture elsewhere. Just as the Pacific Northwest has its own vibe, Florida, South Carolina, Texas, etc. Sometimes it's the nuances...
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 05:34 PM
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109. Florida.
I'm a big fan of the Sunshine state despite the insanity that goes on there.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:05 PM
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125. .
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 08:07 PM by Lost-in-FL
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:hi: No offense. I just don't like it here. Can you tell?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:42 PM
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134. I'm not offended.
I may well hate it too if I lived there. I just like it when I'm there. I'll be down again in two weeks.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:00 PM
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135. It is great for vacation
but then when you finally live here that is when you find things aren't the same.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 10:41 PM
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139. Yes, perhaps I'll keep my illusions.
I'm not going anywhere anyway unless I hit the lottery.
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Hobo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:24 PM
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113. easy one
new mexico


- Hobo
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:52 PM
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118. Texas, probably Crawford... I'd raise pigs, maybe?
There will likely be a pig farm up for sale there in January 2007.

If not there (and probably not, now that I think about it), somewhere in a politically and socially progressive part of the West- Washington, Oregon, California, depending on cost of living, etc. One thing is for sure: I am not living in a Republican/conservative area ever again. It really sucks!
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:57 PM
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119. Back to NJ
I'm a northeasterner... and I miss my beaches!
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:26 PM
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122. Northern California
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:05 PM
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126. Back to Northern California
Where I lived for most of my life. My kids and new grandbaby live there. I'd move back to be closer to them.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:09 PM
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127. I don't know...but if DU'ers reach a consensus and it's "Farmable" with
room for "Creative Arts" then please post....because many of us are desperate out here for "sustainable/creative" lifestyles that will fit with the New REALITY! And, being sort of "snobby" I'm not looking for a Commune from the 60/70's Model here...but someplace that has folks who might like to do "Ohhhhhmmmm's" but also have other interests.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:12 PM
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128. 
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 08:12 PM by Swamp Rat

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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:23 PM
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132. If I could afford to live in any state it would be
New Mexico or Arizona. Probably New Mexico since I've already lived in Arizona.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:47 PM
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138. New Mexico is pretty affordable.
Depending on what you do, I suppose. Of course, the salaries are--for the most part--lower along with the cost of living, but if you save up a little before moving you could do well buying property. Housing costs are high in Santa Fe and going up in Las Cruces, but are still very low compared to lots of places.

I love my home state and can't wait to get back there next year.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:30 PM
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133. Florida
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 08:30 PM by LeftyMom
I have a good enough reason to override the shitty weather and leadership by the clinically insane, though I would miss California a whole hell of a lot.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:39 PM
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137. Washington or Oregon.
I need a cool climate.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:14 AM
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140. If I had the money, probably CA
If not, maybe NV or NM. It would have to be somewhere warm the bulk of the year--I can't stand the cold weather any more.
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foreverdem Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:09 AM
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141. Pennsylvania
I live in NYC, but grew up in PA, and would love to move back. The pace suits me better. NY is where I live, but PA will always be home.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:03 AM
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142. I dont live in a particularly desirable state
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 08:05 AM by marions ghost
re. politics but I can't think of anywhere better to move to. Every state has its pluses and minuses. I've lived in or visited many of them. There's no Nirvana anywhere that I can see. I have noticed that areas that seem to be 'progressive' on the surface are often not as progressive as I would like them to be. There are still the same cliques of conservatives and people with no vision running everything that matters.

If you can't go where you think is better, create what you want where you are. This whole country Needs Work.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:22 PM
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153. Great points
Thanks! :hi:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:54 AM
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143. For the climate and scenery, New Mexico.

For the blueness, Minnesota.
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:04 AM
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144. Maine...
And looking at everyone else's choices, It will be pretty quiet up there. :)

Gotta love Maine. :)



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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:14 AM
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146. Barrow, Alaska
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:24 AM
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148. Oregon for me....
I love Bend - look forward to snooping around Eugene as well.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:39 PM
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154. New York.
My hometown (Manhattan that is).
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:39 PM
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155. New York.
My hometown (Manhattan that is).
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:46 PM
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156. I'm a native Californian
there is no other state I would rather live in. :-) If I was to more from CA I would make a big move and go to another country.
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