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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:56 PM
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Ahmad Chalabi- is he is or is he ain't an Iranian agent?
That's what the CIA said back when they raided his home
in 2004.
Now, he's apparently Oil minister of Iraq, exactly the
post he would have wanted. Or am I wrong?
Has anybody been keeping tabs on this guy, and the
game he is playing?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:57 PM
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1. We pay him to spy on us.
Bush may give him the Medal of Valor.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:58 PM
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2. He is ....
though the CIA did not raid his home. The FBI did participate in that action.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:38 PM
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7. Dog and pony show - Chalabi works WITH the BFEE. His role is whatever best
suits the fascist agenda and they will adjust as needed.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:02 PM
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3. Ah, how long have we known that!
http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/21/dreyfuss-r.html

Tinker, Banker, NeoCon, Spy
Ahmed Chalabi's long and winding road from (and to?) Baghdad

By Robert Dreyfuss
Issue Date: 11.18.02
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If T.E. Lawrence ("of Arabia") had been a 21st-century neoconservative operative instead of a British imperial spy, he'd be Ahmed Chalabi's best friend. Chalabi, the London-based leader of the Iraqi National Congress (INC), is front man for the latest incarnation of a long-time neoconservative strategy to redraw the map of the oil-rich Middle East, put American troops -- and American oil companies -- in full control of the Persian Gulf's reserves and use the Gulf as a fulcrum for enhancing America's global strategic hegemony. Just as Lawrence's escapades in World War I-era Arabia helped Britain remake the disintegrating Ottoman Empire, the U.S. sponsors of Chalabi's INC hope to do their own nation building.
"The removal of presents the United States in particular with a historic opportunity that I believe is going to prove to be as large as anything that has happened in the Middle East since the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the entry of British troops into Iraq in 1917," says Kanan Makiya, an INC strategist and author of Republic of Fear.

Chalabi would hand over Iraq's oil to U.S. multinationals, and his allies in conservative think tanks are already drawing up the blueprints. "What they have in mind is denationalization, and then parceling Iraqi oil out to American oil companies," says James E. Akins, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia. Even more broadly, once an occupying U.S. army seizes Baghdad, Chalabi's INC and its American backers are spinning scenarios about dismantling Saudi Arabia, seizing its oil and collapsing the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). It's a breathtaking agenda, one that goes far beyond "regime change" and on to the start of a New New World Order.

What's also startling about these plans is that Chalabi is scorned by most of America's national-security establishment, including much of the Department of State, the CIA and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He is shunned by all Western powers save the United Kingdom, ostracized in the Arab world and disdained even by many of his erstwhile comrades in the Iraqi opposition. Among his few friends, however, are the men running the Bush administration's willy-nilly war on Iraq. And with their backing, it's not inconceivable that this hapless, exiled Iraqi aristocrat and London-Washington playboy might end up atop the smoking heap of what's left of Iraq next year.

The Chalabi Lobby
Almost to a man, Washington's hawks lavishly praise Chalabi. "He's a rare find," says Max Singer, a trustee and co-founder of the Hudson Institute. "He's deep in the Arab world and at the same time he is fundamentally a man of the West."

In Washington, Team Chalabi is led by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, the neoconservative strategist who heads the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. Chalabi's partisans run the gamut from far right to extremely far right, with key supporters in most of the Pentagon's Middle-East policy offices -- such as Peter Rodman, Douglas Feith, David Wurmser and Michael Rubin. Also included are key staffers in Vice President Dick Cheney's office, not to mention Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and former CIA Director Jim Woolsey.

The Washington partisans who want to install Chalabi in Arab Iraq are also those associated with the staunchest backers of Israel, particularly those aligned with the hard-right faction of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Chalabi's cheerleaders include the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA). "Chalabi is the one that we know the best," says Shoshana Bryen, director of special projects for JINSA, where Chalabi has been a frequent guest at board meetings, symposia and other events since 1997. "He could be Iraq's national leader," says Patrick Clawson, deputy director of WINEP, whose board of advisers includes pro-Israeli luminaries such as Perle, Wolfowitz and Martin Peretz of The New Republic.
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:16 PM
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4. He's part of the reason why we went to war in Iraq.
He fed us misinfo about WMD through his people; only later did we find out it was bogus. He owns property in Iran and visits Iran.

Apparently, it was Iran all along that wanted us to attack Iraq. They wanted us to do three things -- take out Saddam Hussein, allow the Shiites in Iraq to gain the upper hand, and get bogged down in an untenable situation in Iraq, to prevent us from being able to take the war to its real objective: Iran.

Iran and the other Middle Eastern powers have been playing these games for centuries. Meanwhile, we read that Bush didn't know the difference between Shia and Sunni Muslims, before the Iraq war.

Oh, and Chalabi allegedly told the Iranians we would read their encrypted diplomatic traffic, a disaster of the first order.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:31 PM
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5. One Word Answer
YES!

He may also, if my suspicions are correct, connected to the Islamic charity that Judy gave warning to.

*shadow government*
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:34 PM
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6. find out who is paying him the most...
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RDU Socialist Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:42 PM
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8. yes
but we're fucked in the ass over there by milquetoast leadership, and the bush administration believes that a hard line authoritarian-esque man in a position of power is better than a weak leader. nevermind that the man is a liar, a spy, and a traitor to the iraqi people.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:45 PM
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9. Sleaze attracts sleaze.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 05:04 PM
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10. He knew the Neo-cons would beleive his lies.
* wanted to invade Iraq so Chalabi told him what he wanted to hear because he thought he would be one of the top guys in a puppet government.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:17 PM
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11. Chalabi is a Chalabi agent.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:40 PM
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12. I think this is enlightening.
I posted this 2 days ago. You don't need to click on the link - I pasted the substance below it.It did not get one response.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1814958&mesg_id=1814958


The article below is from 2004. But now that long dead skeletons keep popping up inconveniently for the Bush administration and the neo-cons and the PNAC cabal - I would like to keep this skeleton among the living scandals. The game for winning this world back from the greed squad requires effective long term memory. This whole issue deserves a lot more investigation. How ironic, if, in the War On Terra, we were the tool and pidgeon of one of the charter members of the "Axis of Evil". This is a short article but it covers a lot of ground. Just remember who sat with Laura Bush in the honored seat at the State of the Union. I bet the Iranians were busting a gut laughing their heads off.



http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/justif...

Ahmad Chalabi and His Iranian Connection
Stratfor Weekly
February 18, 2004

Summary

The United States is struggling over the question of how U.S. intelligence was so deeply mistaken about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. One of the points that is consistently brought up is that much of the intelligence flowed through the Iraqi National Council, an opposition group led by Ahmad Chalabi. It is now well known that Chalabi's sources were not ideal. What is less well known is the close, long-term relationship that Chalabi, a favorite of Washington's, had with Iran. Chalabi, an Iraqi Shiite, was and remains in constant contact with Tehran. We have assumed he was a channel between Washington and Tehran. Given the erroneous intelligence he gave the United States, his relationship with Iran requires careful examination.

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However, there would appear to us to be something more here. In particular, there is a complexity that is usually omitted: namely, the relationship between Chalabi and leading figures in Iran. Prior to the war, Chalabi, an Iraqi Shiite who lived in the West for decades, made several trips to Tehran to confer with Iranian officials on a number of issues. He has continued to travel to Iran since the end of the war. Not to put too fine a point on it, Chalabi has had and continues to have excellent relations with Iran, as well as with leading Shia in Iraq

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If we step back now, a different potential explanation emerges. First, Chalabi was extremely close to the Iranians prior to the war. Second, he provided much of Washington's prewar intelligence on Iraq. Third, no weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq. Fourth, the Iranians, along with the Iraqi Shia, are the main beneficiaries of the U.S. invasion. In that case, who Chalabi was and whose interests he actually was serving become the central questions.
This is not an argument against the invasion from a strategic point of view, nor an argument that it was a failure. In the real world, things are rarely so clear-cut. But it does raise a vital question: Who exactly is Ahmad Chalabi? He has been caricatured as an American stooge and used as a tool by the Defense Department. As we consider the intelligence failures in Iraq, Chalabi's role in those failures and his relationship with senior Iranian officials of all factions, a question needs to be raised: Who was whose stooge?





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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:24 PM
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13. Chalabi was a Double Agent
It was known and accepted by both Govts. The Iraq mainstream didn't buy his spiel. The Shi'ites in power & the US rewarded him for delivering what both wanted.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:28 PM
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14. Chalibi is one of the Neocons biggest blunders
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 07:28 PM by proud patriot
the incompetent buffoons entrusted this chalibi
double agent IMO risking U.S. Intelligence ..


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