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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 12:36 AM
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If there is another 9/11 in this country...
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 12:38 AM by TwoSparkles
...what will the terrorist act(s) be?

After reading Fisk's article in The Guardian--and watching the United States provoke our
enemies with horrendous actions--I am convinced that a major terrorist attack is inevitable.

We are openly cultivating rage. Our nation, practically stood alone--giving the green light
for the slaughter of more innocent, Lebanese civilians. We didn't even suggest diplomacy or
try to broker peace. We proclaimed that the slaughter of children should continue. Furthermore,
Iraq is an out-of-control, petri-dish-breeding-ground of terrorists and terror.

It's not overreacting to say that we're probably going to have another 9/11 committed by our enemies from the Middle East. It's probably a smart idea to anticipate what this act might be, how sophisticated it will be and what we can do to protect ourselves and our loved ones.

Does anyone have any insight into what might happen and how we can stay safe?

I think we're foolish to not have this discussion and think about these things.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 12:55 AM
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1. It's likely and exactly what BushCo wants.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:32 AM
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6. I suppose port security is pretty far down your list of prioties, eh? nt
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:53 AM
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12. I'm not sure I understand what...
...prompted your question, but I do consider port security important. What priorities list are you referring to?
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:37 AM
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13. You seemed to imply that "authentic" terrorism doesn't exist, and
that all recent and future terrorism is orchestrated by our government. Iow, that our government can't be held responsible for intelligence/funding failures that allow our borders to be breached by extreme fundy terrorists.

Security is an issue in elections, ya know? ;)
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:13 AM
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18. I didn't intend to imply that...
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 07:14 AM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...however, I fear my own government substantially more than any foreign terrorists. In fact, I believe the illegitimate group of criminal fascists that is our government are terrorizing the Middle East.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 08:57 AM
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19. Ah, ok.
In that case, I pretty much agree with you. :)
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 12:58 AM
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2. I think if we have another 9/11
occur within our borders, it will have been due to Cheneys Minions and their pervasion's perpetrated upon this nation yet again. I can see one sole nuke being utilized for their purpose. This will have nothing to do with the Middle East.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 01:02 AM
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3. If there is another 9/11 in this country, Bushler better get the fuck off
this planet! :yoiks:


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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 01:05 AM
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4. It is not if but when, and remember Timothy McVeigh was a whiteboyUSAnian
It need not be a big thing again, like happened 9/11, no matter who did it. We have been lucky to not have many attacks in this big country. How to stay safe, or at least what would be good is make connections with your neighbors, and their neighbors. Become part of the larger world. Vote and encourage all others to do so. Demand paper trail voting. Watch out for people getting into crop dusters that look like they might not belong there (do you remember that sage advice by Mr.bush?).

Keep an emergency kit on hand, whether for hurricane, earthquake, power outage, whatever, YOU WILL BE ON YOUR OWN, along with friends, family, neighbors, etc. Vote and demand paper trail voting and people to represent you.

Details of how to prevent a Terrorist Attack? I hate how that word, "terrorist", has come to mean such vague crap. How to keep people from hurting you? Be a world citizen, vote, etc, and in the end we all will die. sorry.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:31 AM
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5. McVeigh's act wasn't terrorism, it was revenge. nt
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:34 AM
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7. most people who blow up things say the same.
car bombers, suicide bombers, etc. Always for revenge. Then I get to do revenge on you. Then you on me....
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:41 AM
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10. No, I'm serious.
Terrorism is discernible from other kinds of violence. It isn't a word with zero meaning.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:52 AM
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11. I know, it does. Meaning has been subverted in recent yrs.
True terrorism to to promote terror, not just for revenge. Though if your revenge is to terrorize someone, that would qualify. "Terrorism" has become too synonymous with someone who is on the other side, fighting against you, etc. I agree.

But being blown up with a carbomb for revenge, being blown up to terrorize someone, some group, into acting a certain way, you still are dead. Terrorism does not necessarily mean violence? can be the threat of violence? Would bush administration's bs be called terrorism, people terrorized into giving up freedoms, etc? (thinking as I write as opposed to composition)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:36 AM
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8. Once they had the low-tech plane takeover sussed out
The rest was easy. Airlines WERE a hard target, but only if you were toting a gun and a bigass knife. With boxcutters and a few friends, they were an easy target.

The next target will likely also be easy. Public transit, an office building. Low tech explosives or something that will make people sick, like the sarin scare in Japan.

The idea is to fuck with people's heads. To stop people from living their lives.

Be aware of your surroundings, note and report genuinely suspicious behavior (you know it when you see it; not the Mrs. Kravitz crap, the real stuff) and go on with your life. Keep your larder stocked with shelf stable food and water (you should do this anyway, for the snowstorms or other weather emergencies) and always have an extra stash of buttwipe. It makes being holed up at home much more civilized in the event there's reason to stay home. But other than that, stop worrying. Life is too short. Prepare, and move on.


Three thousand people died in France in 2003. From the HEAT.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/08/14/paris.heatwave/

Three thousand a year die in the UK from asbestos exposure: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/health/medical_notes/a-b/161660.stm

Three thousand Iraqis were killed in June: http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=7581
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:41 AM
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14. I agree.
Proportion and probability are important to keep in mind. :thumbsup:

(btw, was it 2001 when 15,000 died from heat in France?)
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michael_1166 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 02:39 AM
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9. Well
the terrorist's act will be that they steal another election. Probably they blow some things up beforehand, for keeping the public's fear factor working to their advantage.

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:44 AM
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15. Beslan Massacre repeated on US soil
How 'bout a group of five men in full body armor armed with homemade bombs and AK47s attacking a high school and killing several hundred students in the process?
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:50 AM
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16. JFC
It's posts like this that are exactly what Bush wants. A nation living in fear.

You cannot go through life saying 'what if this happens' or 'how is it going to happen' or 'we have to give up this to be safer' or 'they hate us so much because...'

STOP IT GOD DAMN IT.

Do you honestly think people across the world live like this? No they don't.

To be bluntly honest, there's not a damned thing you as an individual can do about any of it. Until Bush is gone from office and a new Adminstration is installed (and god help us all, it had better be a Democratic one).....you can't do anything. Protesting obviously hasn't worked unless it's to lower opinion polls somewhat. Writing your representative hasn't done anything either. Even voting hasn't helped..........hell we don't even know for sure whether our votes are being actually couned anymore (many I suspect are not).

The best thing you can do is get on with living your life, trying to talk sense to your friends and neighbors about what is really going on and hope to god enough people get it through their thick heads that America needs to desparately get back on the somewhat correct but imperfect path.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 09:56 AM
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20. Exactly.
Besides, how could there be another terrorist attack? Captain Bush is on the watch. There has been no attack since 911, isn't that because of Bushie and his wonderful administration's policies?

:sarcasm:

The right wing does not want another attack, or they can't keep claiming that. They know they'll get the blame. And some of the advice above about keeping food and water is what people should do anyway in case of earthquake in relevant parts of the country, hurricane, tornado, blackout or whatnot.

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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 06:49 AM
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17. I'm guessing
another bombing. It is their MO for sure. I dont' now what they would target, and I won't speculate or give any ideas. But, I do feel like another terrorist attack is coming, its just a matter of when/where....
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