Stop insulting the transgendered!

[ck4829]

You know what I'm talking about.

Stop calling Ann Coulter a transgendered person!

It's time for the truth about the 'Adam's Apple' that she has. Her exposed larynx is actually evidence of an eating disorder more than it is for being transgendered.

And that's what we should be talking about. She charges $20,000 to speak somewhere, but doesn't eat enough food so tissue can cover up her larynx. Pitiful.

[Nikki Stone 1]

1. Amen!

:kick:

[SPKrazy]

3. Double Amen!

or even a Ramen!

[Nikki Stone 1]

10. Can I get a noodley appendage?

:D

[mr_hat]

2. Stop insulting the anorexic!

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. $20,000 a pop to preach venom and can't afford a turtleneck sweater.

She sucks.

[Berry Cool]

7. Hey, all Keith did was say she had the Adam's apple.

That and that she'd never seen another person naked.

And he called her a virgin.

Well, hey.

[Arkansas Granny]

24. But a turtleneck sweater would hide that beautiful body that she

seems so fond of showing off.

[cboy4]

5. I think you're wasting your breath around here, but I agree

with you.

[QuestionAll...]

6. I'm with you.

Its a disgrace how some here and there take her sexuality more important than the vile words she speaks. her words should be her downfall, not her bodily being or health issues.

[LeftCoast]

8. K&R

I guess some people think bigotry is ok if it's said about our enemies. :(

[StClone]

9. Annthrax

Denigrate her by what she says and does and forget expedience shots at her appearance. She's not a homophobe but her followers are so plays the gay Bill and Hillary line. There are so many ways to reveal her as a nut that don't involve her appearance that it shows a real lack of creativity and insensitivity to go that route.

[cboy4]

13. I just want to make sure I didn't misread your post....are you

saying that she's not a homophobe?

If you are saying that, I would question how you would know? The last time I saw her on television, she used the word "fag."

Certainly not an indication in and of itself I admit - - - but I take into account her overall ugly track record in making my assessment.

If I misread what you wrote, boy am I embarrassed....I'm sorry and disregard everything I just typed!! :)

[StClone]

18. From what I have read, she has gay friends

And, you read my post right. I am going to research this to see whether or not I got my wires crossed.

How this all plays with those assumed gay acquaintances, I don't know. Part of this may be that they know she is saying "fag" to keep her followers happily funding her. She's got some real problems that are not unlike that of her male counterpart Gordon Liddy. I hate to resign myself to being an armchair psychoanalyst, but if anyone can be seen as being a self-hating closet gay it is Annie.

[cboy4]

21. Well, I have a feeling it's one of those, "oh, some of my

best friends, (i.e. Condi) are Negroes" kinda thing. I don't know.

However, if it is true "she has gay friends," than her overall behavior is even more despicable than I already consider.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

11. What's interesting is that you could say "stop Transgendering the insulted

and it would mean the same thing.

[kdpeters]

28. I don't get it.

[readmoreoften]

32. I totally get it and you're right. /nt

[Smarmie Doofus]

12. Yes. Plus, it's pointless to keep objecting to....

her as a person. What *should* be the issue are the media venues that keep giving her a soapbox.

To paraphrase th immortal Spiro Agnew: they used to chase people like her around with butterfly nets; now they use television cameras.

[IndyOp]

14. Hallelujah! Sing it, CK!

:yourock:

It makes me angry to see "transgendered" used as an insult.

:grr:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

15. Duh, but it's okay to mock the transgendered here.

Haven't you gotten the memo?

[Nikki Stone 1]

16. It shouldn't be

Calling Coulter "transgendered" is like Coulter calling Al Gore "gay". It is a way to denigrate a person by denigrating a group.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

17. Yeah, I know. I was being sarcastic.

I guess I needed the smiley.

I've been in many a flamewar against transphobia around here.

[Nikki Stone 1]

19. Flamewars seem par for the course here

I just don't understand why this issue hasn't been put to bed already.

[beyurslf]

20. Why do we have to worry about offending every person? It's funny to mock

her....and she deserves it because she is so damn vile to everyone. Yes it is offensive to the transgendered. But isn't it offensive to women that she is a member of their group? Or to Republicans? Or to blondes? Or to virgins? Or whoever.

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[uppityperson]

30. Find a better thing to mock her for than a physical characteristic.

I am not offended that she is a woman, but that she is a nasty person.

[readmoreoften]

34. Yeah, why don't you just call Condeleeza Rice a few racial slurs.

Or is that not as fun?

"Yes it is offensive to the transgendered. But isn't it offensive to women that she is a member of their group?"

Yeah, but SHE'S NOT A MEMBER OF THE "TRANSGENDERED GROUP". She's a woman, a republican, and a blonde, but she's not transgendered. And virgins aren't a downstrodden, spit on, jailed, beaten and abused minority.

If you want to spit on members of DU to perpetuate a really boring joke, then knock yourself out.

[foreigncorrespondent]

64. It might be funny to you...

....but it certainly isn't funny to a group of transgendered people who will read the vile crap that is said here about her and her adams apple, or to see the vile images created. It is offensive. We are meant to be progressives here, yet where this is concerned, this makes us look like a bunch of right wingers when they attack someone for being gay.

You cannot counter vile crap with vile crap, we are meant to be better than that.

[MoseyWalker]

23. thanks, but what you said

was obviously stupid, and that's the way it goes.

[tyedyeto]

27. I have known several females who have had eating disorders...

anorexia and bulemics. Not ONE has had an 'enlarged' larnyx. An 'Adam's Apple is an Adam's Apple'. I've seen those pics from her supposed HS or college days. I do not see her face at all in those pics.

Those who call her transgendered here do so because of the hypocracy she is constantly spouting. Just like all those repug 'family values' state and local politicians who get busted for child porn, affairs, etc.

In my humble opinion, those of us who thinks she may have once been a male... are calling her out because of the vile shit she spews about liberals in general. I recall one time when she called every liberal/Democrat gay (Don't ask me to google that on a Friday night LOL), but I distinctly remember that one.

So, if she can call every liberal in this country gay, why can't a few of us question her sexual preferance?????

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. So, if she can call every liberal in this country gay, why can't a few of

You mean her sexual identity.

Most transgendered females think of themselves as straight and are attracted to men as if they were biological females. Oh, I am not disallowing that there are transgendered female lesbians.

[readmoreoften]

35. Because when Ann Coulter calls people "gay" she's

being derogatory towards a good portion of our base because she thinks that "gay" is a bad thing to be.

And when we call Ann Coulter "transsexual" we are also being derogatory towards a portion of our base, because we think "transsexual" is a bad thing to be.

If we thought that "transsexual" was a good or neutral thing to be, we wouldn't hurl it at her with such venom.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. I'm Getting Lost

It seems some people here are implying she's a transsexual because she has a adam's apple, and being a transsexual is a bad thing to be.

By the way you can get your adam's apple "shaved" for about $700.00.

[readmoreoften]

37. hey sorry I misread your post. :)

I gotcha, why can't we falsely call her a lesbian since she's falsely calling everyone gay, just to show the absurdity of it. Not as bad IMHO because it's directly ironic. I'm a lesbian and I approve of that tactic especially if it comes with a shoulder shrug.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. Why Can't We Just Say She's A Horrible , Hateful Human Being

She cheapens the discourse. Hate is corrosive, It's destroys the container well before it destroys the target.

[MrCoffee]

40. Stop Insulting Human Beings!

I'd call her an undead zombie witch, but I don't want to insult undead zombie witches...and on, and on, and on.

[idgiehkt]

47. ouch.

the logic in that post hurt me.

[theHandpuppet]

29. I agree!

Seems it's common practice around here to insult the worst the RW has to offer by insinuating they're gay or transgendered. We're better than that, people.

[MrCoffee]

45. speak for yourself

I for one am no better than that. Ann Coulter is an Undead Zombie Witch (with apologies to all the Undead Zombie Witches out there).

[Nikki Stone 1]

62. I'd apologize to the witches, but I think the zombies are ok with it.

:D

[kdpeters]

31. It's not an eating disorder, it's a stimulant disorder

It's time for the truth about the 'Adam's Apple' that she has. Her exposed larynx is actually evidence of an eating disorder more than it is for being transgendered.

If you want to discuss probable explanations for her weight, drug use isn't just a reasonable explanation, I'm certain it's THE explanation. Her behavior patterns are textbook stimulant abuse. Not just one or two strange things, but one or two instances of wild, strange behavior uncharacteristic of most her appearances but highly characteristic of a person abusing stimulants. Not just a few indicators, but a wide range of textbook behaviors. Then there's the tardiness for Adam Carrola show, the sunglasses on Hardball, and some other no-show I don't remember off the top of my head. In that context, her weight is just another corroborating factor.

Sometimes I watch her, and I know she's high. One specific instance it seemed so obvious to me, I sat there and cringed in disbelief as Hannity and Colmes went through the motions of a normal segment while she sat there and tweeked out on National TV for ten minutes. It was obvious to me because I too have been there and I know it when I see it. The bitch is high.

She charges $20,000 to speak somewhere, but doesn't eat enough food so tissue can cover up her larynx. Pitiful.

If you're spending it on coke, you don't need to spend it on food.

Knowing what it's like, I wouldn't wish anyone have to go through it, but if that horse-faced, anal-whore destroys herself with addiction and rots in hell, well, I just wouldn't be able to celebrate with the rest of you.

[Kablooie]

39. I'll have the duck with the mango salsa.

[savemefromdumbya]

41. There seems to be an influx of GOP supporters here on this one

see them all rush in to defend Annie.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. Who's Defending Ann Coulter

We are defending transgendered people by saying Ann isn't one of them.

[savemefromdumbya]

44. just reminds me

when Kerry pointed out in the debates that Mary Cheney was gay. They were all over him?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. I Forgot The Reaction Here

To me saying somebody's gay or transgendered is as meaningful as saying somebody has green eyes.

[savemefromdumbya]

56. how do you know?

[LeftCoast]

43. Oh yeah...I'm a GOP supporter. Whatever.

:eyes:

[Kailassa]

48. So, if appearances lead me to seriously believe

that this bitch ... (am I allowed to call her that?) ...
who so readily insults everyone "she" considers to be sexually divergent from the imaginary norm,
is a man pretending to be a woman, is it impolite of me to say so?

Am I not allowed to point out that this unpleasant person appears to be a terrible hypocrite?

My apologies if unpleasant folk here are offended at my use of the term as an unsult.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. Respectfully

Because you're slamming transgendered people in the process...

[idgiehkt]

50. did you mean to invent a new word?

Lol, I like it. It's not an insult, it's an "unsult".

On a more serious note, our using it as a slur against her leaves us with no moral high ground, which we really need since she's going around calling Gore a 'fag'. We've screwed ourselves, and she knows it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. That's The Point

She is calling Gore a fag not because she really thinks he's gay but to denigrate him by suggesting he is, because being gay is a bad thing to be (according to some).

[idgiehkt]

52. yes.

I got a bad reaction in a thread last week for suggesting this is why she's taken up the habit suddenly of slinging gay slurs, because a light went on in her evil little head about our hypocrisy, and how she can use it against us. I didn't feel too popular after pointing that out. I said the same thing when Letterman called her an inconvenient bitch, that it was a VERY POOR STRATEGY, and short-sighted. That doesn't go over too well either. But liberals really need to think ahead a little.

edit: I should say I used the argument about political strategy because it might make more sense to someone who can't quite figure out why "Ann the Man" is a slur just on the face of things. I understand it myself, and I agree.

[Kailassa]

54. I see. So we mustn't point out her hypocrisy,

because that draws attention to the fact that she is different too.

Gotcha ... I guess.

[LeftCoast]

61. How is it hypocrisy? She's not transgendered!

[Kailassa]

69. How do you know that? I see signs that she is, so do others.

However people here are now persuaded they mustn't say so.

[LeftCoast]

71. So you're an expert? Sorta like Sen Frist? You can just tell by looking?

You should open up a practice. I'm sure it's only out of the goodness of your heart that you call her transgendered. Clearly, you don't mean *any* slur at all when you say it. :sarcasm:

[savemefromdumbya]

57. but

people are not calling Ann a man because it is a bad thing. She actually looks llike one. We have a lot of trannies hwo come into our club. 2 look very much like Ann long blonde hair, mini skirts what's wrong with that? I don't think Keith was being evil when he siad that.

[savemefromdumbya]

59. but she doesn't like it when the ball is in our court

[undergroundpanther]

53. People

Are scared of anyone stepping outside gender roles. A woman that has"masculine behavior" as in aggressive,loud,ambitious,or opinionated.. is called trans,as if women cannot be aggressive,loud,opinionated,ambitious or assertive.
Ann must be a man,she can't be a woman if she behaves in such a manner. What's wrong with strong women?

Bigotry,against women,and this bigoted associating of trans-people with an asshole problem ann coulter has,that's the real issue here.

Some people fear strong women so they seek to deny she is truly female.As if she had no right to be how she is,with her biological gender.This is misogyny.

Ann coulter is aggressive and that is one expression in our stupid culture that's been reserved to men.

To me she is disgusting for her politics ,ignorance,and personality type.And my disgust with her has NOTHING to do with Transgender issues at all.And if the gender ignorant were more aware of what they hate about her,they'd stop calling ann coulter a trans-person and call her what she is,an asshole..

I think it is normal for women to be ambitious, assertive, aggressive and loud,and lead..these traits are not men's only traits.They are HUMAN traits.Gender takes human traits and denies some of them to one part of the population while gender denies the opposite traits to the other part of the population.It has created a split in humanity,not just in how people expressions are, but in perception of who we are and it is toxic and artificial.And for those who are accepting of gender it is INVISIBLE.

When nervous bigoted ignorant people say Ann acts like a man, it's because of those artificial gender roles and the bigotry and "rules" these gender roles impose on human beings.Men see a woman in a dominant role these men get nervous because the woman rivals them ,the women feel nervous because they never questioned the rules of"female" gender.


Ann coulter is very thin this is why her adams apple is prominent. I think she has an eating disorder. Last time I saw her she looked downright skeletal.And it was frightening to think she is that sick.

As for gender...Ask yourselves this you ignoramuses who bandy about coulter as if she was a trans-person..
If Ann Coulter was dainty,submissive, let men talk over her, and interrupt her, and if she lowered her eyes to males,would she be called "Ann the man" Coulter than..? NO.

Gender is Bigotry. Gender hurts unless one naturally conforms to it,and not everyone does,and some accept it as if they were always that way,. Gender is a social lie. Gender is a corrosive mind game imposed upon little kids before they know who they are. The Old Pink or Blue straight-jacket .Some grow to accept their gender,some struggle others cannot stand it. Gender norms are a crime against humanity.

[mom cat]

55. Thanks! Please do not dishonor transgendered folks by comparing

them to Awful Anne.

[savemefromdumbya]

58. but I think it was

because she looks like a man that's all, so what and I don't think Keith O meant to be insulting. How many times, probably one thousand, have we seen posts at DU on Bush is gay - having it off with Gannon, Ashe, Rove etc.

[Catherine Vincent]

60. She just has a thin neck.

[Obamarama]

63. Oh fer chrissakes...not this tired rant again!

FYI, you want to know why I refer to Ann Coulter as Mann Coulter and mock her prominent Adam's apple. The farthest thing from my mind is mocking transgendered people. I do it because I know that it would drive the despicable bitch batshit crazy if I could say it to her sullen, sunken face.

As a gay man, I hear barbs and asides made about "fags", "fudgepackers," et. al. But you know what? I figure fuck THEM...what do they know? The joke is actually on THEIR sorry, bigoted asses. And then I forget about it and move on.

This whole brouhaha over the Ann Coulter remarks is really tiresome. Methinks it's time for those who have their tails in a snit over this relative non-issue ought to grow some thicker skin. There's a luandry list of other issues we need to have our eyes on if you ask me.

[smoogatz]

65. Uh, but what if she really is a transsexual?

She certainly looks like a transsexual. Sounds like one, too. She's also in the habit of projecting her gender-confusion on people she disagrees with. So if she really is a transsexual (and I'd be willing to bet a quarter that she is), how is it insulting to transgendered persons to point that out? Wouldn't it be awkward and silly if we all pretended not to notice? Just curious.

[557188]

67. Because

Gender doesn't fucking matter. Attack a person based on their own stupidity and not based on their gender.

God I can't believe people are so hung up on this issue.

[smoogatz]

68. You don't think it would matter if Coulter turned out to be a transsexual?

This is the woman who recently called Al Gore a "huge fag." Do you think her wingnut mouth-breather following would still like her if they knew she used to have a wiener? And actually, I'm not hung up on the "issue"--it's my feeling that Coulter is so vile that she deserves whatever invective we can fling at her--and the more that sticks to her, the better. I think maybe the OP is, though. You, too, maybe. Hung up, I mean.

[smoogatz]

66. Stop insulting the extraterrestrials.

Stop comparing Anne Coulter to that hideous, slime-drooling, human-devouring critter in the "Alien" movies. Just stop it. You're hurting the aliens' feelings.

[Jamastiene]

70. I appreciate your plea to protect transgendered people.

I think I may well be one, although no one has officially diagnosed me as such.

I do think, however, that most DU'ers don't mean to insult the TG community, or just may not realize that they are. I, personally, am not offended by the comments. "Sticks and stones..." applies here, IMHO.

On second thought, comparing Ann Coulter to any human being is an insult.

[guinivere]

72. You are right. Calling that skeletor Coulter transgendered

insults the transgendered.
Whether it's an eating disorder or something else, she looks unhealthy.