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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:24 PM
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Ned Lamont Victory = The Beginning of the End of the Iraq War
if ned lamont wins the conn primary against joe lieberman , this victory will be the beginning of the end of the iraq war...it will send a message to every waffling democrat that there might be an anti-war candidate in their next primary.

this victory will unify the democratic party around lamont's message on iraq and stiffen the opposition party just in time for november = majority status in the house and perhaps the senate = the troops will be coming home.

optimistic, maybe...but i believe it can be.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:29 PM
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1. Let's work hard for Dems and keep our fingers crossed
And not let them play any games at the polls.
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:40 PM
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3. let's work hard for Us The People...
and fuck the dems if they don't comply or keep complying.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:38 PM
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2. Don't count Joe out. Russert will filet Ned on Sunday.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:55 PM
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7. I hope Ned goes on the offensive. Russert is a dumb, nasty little
media whore. God only knows why GE had to get such an ugly turd to do it's dirty work. I'm sure there are plenty of pretty boys out there who would have filled the bill.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:41 PM
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4. lets not count our chickies yet. Joe has not lost YET, and it is a LOCAL
issue.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:45 PM
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5. yes, this will set the tone, no matter the spin-no turning back
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:52 PM
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6. If nothing else, it will put a lot more teeth into the anti-war movement.
It will show that you mess with, ignore, or turn your nose up at people who want the Iraq War STOPPED NOW - at your peril. It will send a rawther loud message not only to pro-war people (who may feel the cold breath of the Grim Political Reaper on the backs of their necks and tight sphincters in their shorts as a result), AND to the media that there IS and WILL BE a price to pay for supporting bush and the war. A rather painful price. It's gonna yank 'em by the hair and force them to pay attention - especially if such a big name and establishment figure as joe lieberman is felled by this.

As long as bush and the neocons survive politically, the war will not end. Which is why we have to go after bush next. Assuming we get back at least the House in November, absolute IMPEACHMENT proceedings MUST start. Most of the problems arising from this stem from the UTTER lack of accountability, the fact that no one's been fired, no heads have rolled, nobody's had a resignation demanded of him (or in contradicta's case, her), there's been absolute SQUAT. There HAVE TO BE CONSEQUENCES FOR BAD BEHAVIOR. That's what we teach our kids. That's what the religiosos teach everybody. That's what the wisest of our elders have taught us. That's what the law teaches us. This may be the opening salvo in our campaign to take back our country and start rectifying the many wrongs and sins committed in the name of greed and power. Because, so far, bad behavior has been totally ignored at best, and rewarded with Presidential Medals of Freedom, fat contracts and book deals, big-ass jobs at big-time tv networks and other cronyisms. So there's no motivation to side with the Light. It's all about what you can get away with. AND THAT SHIT JUST SIMPLY HAS TO STOP.

And it won't stop on its own. We're gonna have to MAKE IT stop. And the way to begin is to show joe lieberman the door. You're WITH US or you're AGAINST US, joe. You're with US, the people, the taxpayers, the front-line people who are most affected by this, or you're with the bad guys.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:06 PM
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8. In politics over-confidence can be
a dangerous thing. People still have to vote and if they think the results are a foregone conclusion some might not bother. It worries me a little.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:07 PM
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9. Dionne on Countdown this evening.
On Olbermann's instigation, he indicated that Lieberman losing to Lamont next week will be a warning call to all Democrats that they had better oppose this President.

What's really exciting about this prospect is what repercussions it may have for November's election. What if a Lieberman loss shakes the Dems up enough to actually fight for the election this time, instead of their usual play dead mode. We might be able to actually snatch a victory out the jaws of victory.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:09 PM
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10. its not the end yet
The end is 40 years from now, when only 2 living souls are left living in iraq, an otherwise toxic environmental
disaster area, and the two men are fighting it out with teaspoons over a biscut, and only when the last opposition
finally dies from his tea spoon wound 40 years hence, that iraq shall know peace. ;-)
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:09 PM
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11. Whoever Wins
it has changed the tone and the argument in Connecticut at least
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:16 PM
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12. I just hope that he starts to understand that the aggression against Iraq
and the aggression against Lebanon are part of the same cloth.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:42 PM
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13. It is already having impact
and will be the talk of Wednesday's national news.

But even now, other Senators are weighing in. Lautenberg told Joementum to pack it in if he loses big on Tuesday. Hillary C is measuring her words lately. But next Tuesday will be a shot acorss the DLC bough. 11,500 Independents have change their regs so they can vote Tuesday and it aint likely that they will go for Lieberman.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:00 PM
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14. Upgrading Joe Biden would be another good Dem Senator replacement
This Senator should care as much about his job as he does his fashion sense!
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:46 PM
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15. Lieberman won't lose. The fix is in.
Do you think the Republicans would let one of their best friends, one of their best "assets," lose?

They will fix the voting machines. Yes, I know they're the "untamperable" lever machines, but they break awfully easy. And what do you think would be the results if they "happen to break" in the most critical districts?

Lieberman will win. Progressives will lose. The war will go on. And Lieberman will be dancing again with the other Pink Tutu Democrats this fall.


"Our lead ballerina is back to dance for Daddy W!"
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:42 AM
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16. WaPo - Conn. Race Could Be Democratic Watershed
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 09:43 AM by rndmprsn
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/05/AR2006080500963.html

FARMINGTON, Conn., Aug. 5 -- The passion and energy fueling the antiwar challenge to Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman in Connecticut's Senate primary signal a power shift inside the Democratic Party that could reshape the politics of national security and dramatically alter the battle for the party's 2008 presidential nomination, according to strategists in both political parties.

A victory by businessman Ned Lamont on Tuesday would confirm the growing strength of the grass-roots and Internet activists who first emerged in Howard Dean's presidential campaign. Driven by intense anger at President Bush and fierce opposition to the Iraq war, they are on the brink of claiming their most significant political triumph, one that will reverberate far beyond the borders here if Lieberman loses.

An upset by Lamont would affect the political calculations of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), who like Lieberman supported giving Bush authority to wage the Iraq war, and could excite interest in a comeback by former vice president Al Gore, who warned in 2002 that the war could be a grave strategic error. For at least the next year, any Democrat hoping to play on the 2008 stage would need to reckon with the implications of Lieberman's repudiation.

Even backers of the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee are now expecting this scenario. Two public polls in the past three days show Lamont with a lead of at least 10 percentage points.
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