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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:03 PM
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The Anti-YOYO party. Your thoughts and suggestions, please.
The Anti-YOYO Party and possible Platform:


The GOP has become the “YOYO” party………..”You’re On Your Own”. They would love to undo every liberal/progressive accomplishment of the last century. No sir, I don’t like it! I am against the YOYO party. I want to form the Anti-YOYO party. The emphasis will be liberal/progressive and environmental. The symbol will be a Tree.
I want all of the citizens of this country to know that they are NOT on their own. The government can care and the government can be made to work to the benefit of all. It will take some work, but it CAN be done. It will need a Rooseveltian program to save the country and, indeed, the WORLD. Climate change will kill us all. We CAN reverse what we have caused if we hit it quick and hit it hard. Details are in the Anti-YOYO Environmental Party platform. Let’s look at some of the planks, shall we?


1. Plant trees in every possible open space between the Mississippi and the East Coast. We need to restore the old ability of a squirrel to go from the Mississippi to the Coast without setting a paw on the ground. The trees will tie up carbon and put oxygen into the air. Fruit and nut trees should be planted in all public areas and along highways, etc. The populace is welcomed to use the fruit for their personal use. Animals will use the rest. Grassy areas need to be done away with except for designated natural meadows for wildflowers, etc. No lawns will mean no mowing. Think of the gas it will save. The shade from the trees needs to cover everything possible….houses, roads, buildings. There will be less runoff containing fertilizer and pesticide so the water will be cleaner.

2. Out west there needs to be a massive deployment of windmills for electric power generation. Farms that are struck with drought can still hold windmills and generate electricity. The farmers will be paid by power companies for excess power produced. A portion of that money will go to pay the government for the wind turbines, etc.

3. Out west and wherever possible there needs to be solar panels put on every structure that is above the trees or in the open to generate power. Same principle as wind mills, the owners will sell power to the electric companies and repay the government with a portion of the profit.

4. Plants will be built by the government, or private industry if they will do it right, to produce seedlings, build wind turbines, and build solar panels. Jobs will be significant and carry full health benefits. More jobs can be created to plant trees, tend to the forests, and help distribute needed parts of the process.

5. Organic farms, using the minimum pesticides and fertilizers need to be established and employ as many as possible with good salaries and health benefits. The food will be sold directly to the public at the lowest prices possible.

6. Universal single payer healthcare (Surgically Remove the Middle Men). This will allow a burst of entrepreneurial spirit never before seen. There will be more tax dollars taken in and the middle and lower class will do better and better. Believe me, it can work.

Some things we will ALL need to do:

1. Be happy with less. We need to realize and point out that GREED is a planet killing problem. For the religious, it is a mega bad SIN.

2. We have to be willing to tax the Corporations and the Rich in a fair way. They need to all give their fair share to save our country and our world. (They won’t be making much when their customers are all dead. To live a few months/years longer than the vast majority of the world is a silly goal.)

3. We must embrace environmentally friendly technologies, whether they are our first choice or not. Once again, your hummer won’t be much use when you’re dead or out of gas.

4. Stop wars of aggression and aggrandizement. Everyone should have clean water, clean air, AFFORDABLE and dignified healthcare, and a life suitable to pursuing happiness.

Make Government actually WORK for the people. Make it accountable and make it honest. (We might have to tinker with the Constitution a bit, but mostly we just need to enforce laws we already have.)

Possible slogans:

End War and Save Our Planet
Less is More (At Least You’ll Be Alive!)
Greed Kills Planets
Greed Kills People

Remember: If we do nothing, we are going to have to change. There just won’t be nearly as many of us to do it. Let’s make the choices now, hard as they may be, and live to pat each other on the back!

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:06 PM
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1. Excellent post !
And calling the Repugs the "YOYO Party" is also a great idea.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:11 PM
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2. Thanks, I know it needs tweaking and I hope the Democratic will rise
to the challenge and espouse Anti-YOYO principles. They have done it in the past, by golly!
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:11 PM
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3. I loved this when you first posted this a week or so back
and still do...:)!
Rock on! :applause: :yourock:
Keep posting it...

I agree with every single point in there!
:bounce: :bounce:
(hee hee I love the little green bouncy things and over use them ;))
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:17 PM
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6. Yes! Thanks for your continued support. I want more to see it and will
make adjustments and throw it out every now and then. Maybe Bill Gates is looking and will put some billions in our coffers! (I like the green bouncies, too. Can you OVER use them?)
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:12 PM
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4. Repukes = YOYO's. . .Democrats = WAITT's
We're All In This Together.

:kick;
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:23 PM
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11. I would suggest "WITs" instead of "WAITT's" - wait means you don't
get it now.

"We're All In This Together" could also be "WITs" - as in "using our wits" to get ourselves out of a serious, serious, serious problem...
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 08:30 AM
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14. How about WITT = We're In This Together
n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 10:11 AM
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16. WITT - I like! I like your Frank Zappa avatar, too. Peace. ;-) (n/t)
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:15 PM
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5. C'mon more people kick and recommend this thread already
:)

We need positive ideas and a vision for a positive future...

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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:02 PM
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7. Shameless self-bump. It's "gasp" a positive subject. n/t
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:13 PM
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8. Look I don't think any of those ideas are what I stand for!
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 06:15 PM by YOY
I take this as a personal attack!!!

The anti-YOY movement must sto...

Oooooh 'YO YO'


Never mind....:smoke:
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:24 PM
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9. ..
:rofl:

Hey, I'm all for YOY!!!!!! :hi: :bounce:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:34 PM
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10. Wshew! That's a relief!
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 06:35 PM by YOY
For a second there I thought everyone was on to me and my secret plot to overthrow the world with nothing more than a truckload of slinkeys, a plate of pastrami, and an autographed copy of Charro's autobiography! :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

I can relax again!
:hippie:

:+ :hi:
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tonka023 Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:10 PM
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12. Phew
My first thoughts were that you were anti- Yoyo Ma.
I'm relieved he's done nothing worthy of the greatest
page.


Excellent post buddy, I'm with you!
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 11:14 PM
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13. Your plan will not get much support for numerous reasons.
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 11:16 PM by lostinacause
I won't go into the details beyond saying it doesn't match with people's preferences and is very easy to create effective labels against the policies.

Add: I personally don't think the plan adequately considers the costs of such a policy and it is limited in scope.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 08:44 AM
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15. Obviously you have thought about this a lot. What would you propose?
What would be your plan to save the planet and our nation? I'm all eyes......
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 12:18 PM
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17. Nay-saying is a plan of sorts I suppose :-/
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 12:19 PM by nam78_two
"I ain't got no solutions but yours suck anyway !" ;)

On a more positive note...:
companies embracing green buildings-

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/04/AR2006080401612.html

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Keep posting theophilus...I am tired of negativity. We need more positive ideas and positive visions, rather than just kvetching about the status quo :).





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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:14 PM
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18. Green buildings do indeed seem to be "catching on". It helps with the
bottom line, don't cha know! Anyway, I'll keep putting this up and lots of others are, too. This link is in another thread about a video. Scroll down to the Quinn Report.

http://www.libertynewstv.com/

Several of the ideas are the same. This is popping up all around and, over time, the best thoughts will be distilled. I think one of the main ideas is that we ARE going to have to SACRIFICE. We did it in the past and it can give everyone a good feeling to contribute for the good of all. Sacrifice for a good cause is something we have been lacking. Remember Spurious George telling everyone to just go out and shop? Well, that just ain't right.

:bounce: :hi: :bounce:
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:02 PM
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22. Did you notice that the things that I spoke of were cited as the reason
for the change in attitudes in that article?

Assuming that someone doesn't have a solution just because they did not mention one is foolish.
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 08:06 PM
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20. The most critical thing to the general welfare of the American population
no matter how you look at it has to be education. With the exception of a relatively small proportion of the population America falls behind other nations in education. Education is critical because it leads to innovation and improvement. Around 20 years ago there was a push towards alternative fuels though none of it materialized in the long run. Improvements in production techniques and increasing fuel prices are starting to make alternative energy projects economically efficient and is increasing the feasibility of generating a significant proportion of energy with such methods. Education will be the key to further improvements in wellbeing.

From an economic standpoint the value of education goes with out saying. A more educated work force is more productive and more innovative. All else being equal this leads to increased wages.

From an environmental perspective command and control methods are inefficient. Especially when dealing with firms, incentive based mechanisms such as tradable emission permits or a tax-subsidy system work much better. Thus given a certain goal it is possible to accomplish it at a lower cost with a incentive based mechanism. When dealing with people it is more difficult to implement such programs because people either over respond or under respond to incentives, however with a well placed incentive system you can get people to respond to the desire extent.

Americans need to stop complaining about gas prices. They are going to increase. The American dollar has fallen and the demand from other countries has increased. Policies should not be developed with the intention of artificially decreasing the price by placing the cost on others, in particular there is no need reduce taxes or decrease refining regulations. There is also no need to give oil companies incentives (that others don't have) to invest or place additional taxes on them when they make too much money.

Finally the consequences of increasing concentrations of CO2 needs to be looked at such that the costs associated with constantly increasing CO2 emissions can be quantified in a reasonable way. The politics of global warming is just sickening.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 04:22 PM
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19. Saturday kick/nt
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 08:24 PM
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21. Too late to recommend
...but I'd still like to nominate you for President. :)

Kick for excellent ideas that make abundant sense which is why no one in government will give them a second glance.
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