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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:33 PM
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Iran supplied missles to Hezbollah...
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525807791&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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Iran admitted for the first time on Friday that it did indeed supply long-range Zelzal-2 missiles to Hizbullah.

Secretary-general of the "Intifada conference" Mohtashami Pur told an Iranian newspaper that Iran transferred the missiles so that they could be used to defend Lebanon, Channel 1 reported.

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The IDF also believes that it seriously damaged the long-range rocket array in the first night of air strikes almost three weeks ago and impaired Hizbullah's ability to fire the rockets.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:34 PM
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1. So what would you suggest?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:34 PM
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:36 PM
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4. why is this not a reliable source? nt.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:35 PM
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3. Well, Israel should stop targeting civilians before one of those Iranian..
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 01:35 PM by Cooley Hurd
...rockets hits Tel Aviv. :(
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:43 PM
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14. And Hezbollah sould stop launching its missiles at only civilian targets.
But then again, Hezbollah's only mission statement is the destruction of Israel. Hard to have peace when all they want to do is kill.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:48 PM
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19. Agreed, but Israel has the smart bombs...
...hezbollah's missiles just fire off willy-nilly. Israel has the ability to NOT KILL CIVILIANS, but seem to be doing so without conscience. :(
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:15 PM
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24. Here is an Israeli that disagrees with you...
Although we should not romanticise Hizbullah, equally we should not be quick to demonise it either: unless there is convincing evidence suggesting it has been firing on civilian targets. The problem is that Israel has been abusing very successfully its military censorship rules governing both its domestic media and visiting foreign journalists to prevent meaningful discussion of what Hizbullah has been trying to hit inside Israel.

I live in northern Israel in the Arab city of Nazareth. A week into the war we were hit by Hizbullah rockets that killed two young brothers. The attack, it was widely claimed, was proof either that Hizbullah was indiscriminately targeting civilians (so indiscriminately, the argument went, that it was hitting fellow Arabs) or that the Shiite militia was so committed to a fanatical war against the Judeo-Christian world that it was happy to kill Nazareth's Christian Arabs too. The latter claim could be easily dismissed: it depended both on a "clash of civilisations" philosophy not shared by Hizbullah and on the mistaken assumption that Nazareth is a Christian city, when in fact, as is well-known to Hizbullah, Nazareth has a convincing Muslim majority.

But to anyone living in Nazareth, it was clear the rocket attack on the city was not indiscriminate either. It was a mistake -- something Nasrallah quickly confirmed in one of his televised speeches. The real target of the strike was known to Nazarenes: close by the city are a military weapons factory and a large military camp. Hizbullah knows the locations of these military targets because this year, as was widely reported in the Israeli media at the time, it managed to fly an unmanned drone over the Galilee photographing the area in detail -- employing the same spying techniques used for many years by Israel against Lebanon.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:37 PM
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5. US supplies weapons, including bombs, to Israel
No difference.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:39 PM
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6. And?
what does it matter.. Israel gets it's rockets from the USA... And what? they are both firing these rockets at each other and what? they are killing innocent people.. and what? Nothing is being resolved.. and what? And each side just keeps getting more rockets....

this could go on and on and on, and it probably will.....

two sides to this war-- 1 side is nobody wins, and the other side is everyone loses....

take your pick, choose a side, either one is a dead end for people like you and me....
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Another Bill C. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:41 PM
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10. What dogday said. n/t
n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:46 PM
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18. Stop using logic.
There are innocents that need murdering.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:40 PM
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7. So what? Good for the goose, good for the gander.
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winter999 Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 02:10 PM
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20. Exactly.
What better excuse does BushCo have to go into Iran now?

I tell you the only way this can end is for these "freedom fighters" learn to love their children more than they hate (other human beings).
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Tammie Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:40 PM
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8. And the United States supplies missles to Isreal
so........
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:41 PM
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9. Hey jerome you snipped the parts that stated "not been used".
Why's that Jerome?

Here, most likely unintentional on your part, so I'll replace the parts you left out.

"According to the defense establishment, the reason Hizbullah has not fired long-range Iranian-made Fajr missiles at Israel is due to Teheran's opposition. Israel now understands that without direct orders from the ayatollahs, Hizbullah is not allowed to use Iranian missiles in attacks against Israel."

and

"The longer-range Zelzal missiles, manufactured by Iran and capable of reaching Tel Aviv, have also not been fired at Israel, and the IDF believes this is because it destroyed almost two-thirds of these in the Hizbullah arsenal."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525807791&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Oh, so your point was that Iran has been a moderating influence on Hezbollah trying to keep the crisis under control. Good point.


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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:42 PM
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13. Some folks intentions are clearly marked
You don't even have to read their post to know what sort of propaganda is about to be spewed.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:42 PM
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11. The US
supplies bunker busting bombs to Israel.

If you dig one ditch you'd better dig two, one for your brother and one for you - Marley.
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:42 PM
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12. And the US supplies ACCRUATE missiles in higher numbers and
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 01:43 PM by breakaleg
variety to Israel. What's your point?

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:44 PM
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15. The United States supplies missles to Israel which have killed hundreds
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 01:45 PM by Mr_Spock
At least Iran told Hizballah not to use their missles (according to your story) - even though they have every right to.

Interesting...
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:45 PM
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16. Another Spinning Iran thread:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:45 PM
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17. I say let the god of Abraham work it out, he put both sides there
and both sides pray to him often.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 02:14 PM
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21. Breaking: U.S. supplies F-16's, tanks, and rockets to Israel
What's your point?
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 02:21 PM
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22. thanks for putting in some reality
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 02:40 PM
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23. Who supplied Israel's missiles?
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:30 PM
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25. So why havent they used them? Surely you can't be suggesting...
That Hizbullah is MODERATING their response to the Israeli attack? That they are specifically notifying Israel that continuation of the attacks will result in further escalation on the part of Hizbullah?

Its amazing, and if you believed everything the Israelis say, its impossible, but in fact it is true. Hizbullah is the REASONABLE one here. How insane is that?
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