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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:04 PM
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David Horowitz is being sued

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/04/MNGILKB6U71.DTL

STANFORD IDEOLOGICAL WAR LEADS TO SUIT
Middle East professor sues conservative who linked criticism of Bush to terrorism


Stanford University's Joel Beinin is used to criticism for his views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but when a conservative commentator put the professor's photo on the cover of a booklet titled "Campus Support for Terrorism,'' it started a whole new war.

Beinin, a prominent Middle Eastern scholar, filed suit in March -- turning his ideological clash with FrontPageMag.com Editor in Chief David Horowitz into a legal one.

Horowitz removed the photo from later printings, but Beinin said the harm had already been done and is demanding unspecified damages. With the United States at war in Iraq, Beinin said, it's a scary time to be labeled a supporter of terrorism.

"Horowitz is -- if not a coordinated part -- part of a broader attack against people who speak out against Bush's Middle Eastern policies," said Beinin, past president of the Middle Eastern Studies Association. "If you don't fight back and allow the Horowitzes to do and say what they want, it pollutes the political environment to the point where you can't have intelligent discussions about what we do in the world."

While he believes what Horowitz did was libelous, Beinin isn't suing on those grounds. Instead, he selected a more clear-cut legal challenge -- copyright infringement for unauthorized use of his photo.
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Horowitz opened his mouth and said in reply:

"It's an abuse of the courts to chill my free speech," Horowitz said of Beinin's lawsuit. "If he wants a debate, I will come to Stanford and debate him."

LOL

there is much more to the article...
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:10 PM
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1. Good. Horowitz needs to be reduced to begging
for spare change.
:grr:
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:13 PM
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2. He should have gone for libel
That's a very serious charge, encouraging terrorism, and very, very difficult to prove. Saying simply that opposing Bush encourages terrorism, which is the GOP party line, won't mean squat in court. This is a very winnable case.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:30 PM
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3. The defendant in a libel suit isn't required to prove their statement
is true, The plaintiff must prove it is false, and that the libeler knew it to be false. Then the plaintiff must also prove that it caused the plaintiff harm, whether to reputation or financially.

I'm sure the professor has good legal advice and has chosen this route for a good reason.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:35 PM
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4. Good For The Professor, Ma'am
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 01:36 PM by The Magistrate
Horowitz is wholly out of line, and needs a good thumping check from somebody....

"A beating, short of murder, might have done you good."
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:37 PM
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5. Hooray
David Horowitz is one of the most eliminationist of Conservatives and I'd like to see him driven completely out of business and forced to wrassle alligators for a living. A brief living.

Ok, maybe that's a little over the top.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:00 PM
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6. K&R for Prof. Beinen.
No professor should be reduced to begging permission to teach the material, which is what the RW wants.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:02 PM
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7. Horowitz put Beinin's life in danger
Posting personal information like that has led to vandalism, injury, and death.

This isn't the first time he has done this either.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:04 PM
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9. Exactly. Plenty of nuts out there willing to shoot someone over crap
like this.

Horowitz really needs to be brought down before his shenanigans result in a death.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:02 PM
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8. YES!!!!!!!!!
I am so psyched about this!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:04 PM
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10. he is another loon that obsesses over "left wing antisemitism"
anybody that questions or criticizes Israel.
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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 12:31 AM
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20. Notice our friend's are MIA from this thread? no futher comment... nt
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 12:32 AM by JackNewtown
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:08 PM
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11. He ought to be horse-whipped
N/T
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:14 PM
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12. Damn straight.
"Horowitz is -- if not a coordinated part -- part of a broader attack against people who speak out against Bush's Middle Eastern policies," said Beinin, past president of the Middle Eastern Studies Association. "If you don't fight back and allow the Horowitzes to do and say what they want, it pollutes the political environment to the point where you can't have intelligent discussions about what we do in the world."

Horowitz is just one of many so-called "experts on the Middle East" who are part of a concerted effort to attack, defame, and delegitimize anyone who disagrees with their rabid neoconservative Arab/Muslim/Middle-eastern hating agenda.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:16 PM
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13. You hit the nail on the head
nt
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:25 PM
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14. Thank you Prof. Beinin! Now if Cindy Sheehan would just follow his laed:
Remember this gem:

LIMBAUGH: I mean, Cindy Sheehan is just Bill Burkett. Her story is nothing more than forged documents. There's nothing about it that's real, including the mainstream media's glomming onto it. It's not real. It's nothing more than an attempt. It's the latest effort made by the coordinated left.<snip>

Cindy could sue Limbaugh for millions$$$ but won't pull the trigger.

What gives?





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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:42 PM
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15. I had no idea that the Beastie Boys were that Right Wing!
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 06:46 PM by YOY
I mean with all the Free Tibet stuff! The whole life-loving outlook they portray in thier songs and I could have sworn that "The Negotiation Limerick File" was a song about talking instad of fighti...


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Oooooh, DAVID Horowitz!...Never mind...



:+ :+ :+
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:47 PM
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16. gee, i thought he was being sued for being an ASSHOLE! n/t
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:45 PM
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17. Good. He's a fetid discharge from the McCarthy era
That old and tired and stinky.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:57 PM
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18. Horowitz and Lynn Cheney are terrorists
They advocate violence and professional abuse against any academics who don't toe the Smirk party line.
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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 12:30 AM
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19. Good for freedom nt
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 01:02 AM
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21. Bless Joel Beinin. Horowitz deserves to lose big time on this.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 01:04 AM
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22. Could happen to a worser reptile
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