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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:29 AM
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I've been put on freeper email list at work...
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 09:31 AM by atomic-fly
I am the most liberal person at work that I know of.
I got one today about how muslims cannot be good americans.
I'm so pissed. Do I block them or keep reading them just to
be informed?



Have you seen this before? I think it's a good question indeed! ;o)

Very Interesting Question!!

I forwarded that question to a friend that worked in Saudi Arabia
for 20 years.

The following is his forwarded reply:

Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon
God of Arabia.

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his
Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)


Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars
of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which
he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to
make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual
leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of
America, the great Satan.


Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women
and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American
Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he
believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do
not allow freedom of religion and _expression. Democracy and Islam
cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or
autocratic.

Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God,"
the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER
referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99
excellent names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should
be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously
cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you
wish....it's still the truth.

If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above
statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The
more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our
future.

Pass it on Fellow Americans. The religious war is bigger than we
know or understand.

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:30 AM
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1. complain to the IT department
and human resources to boot
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:35 AM
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4. xactly - forward junk email to the IT director and ask him if this use
of company resources (time, equipment, cpu cycles and bandwidth) is approved and appropriate.

You may want to copy a vp or two along with your own superviser.

If that does not work you may want to ask HR what your options are in terms of filing a harrassment complaint.

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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 11:08 AM
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13. File a complaint with HR re: harrassment and send to bosses with
question about use of company resources. If you can get the pukes fired, you have done a service to yourself, your company, and the world.

If nothing is done and it is clear that nothing will be done, then go ballistic on them with the suggestions about sending them liberal info and signing them up for all kinds of shit.

It is a war. Fight it.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:10 PM
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18. While I agree, when filing a complaint with HR -
- you'd better first be sure that you've never forwarded a non-business related email to anyone on the freeper email list. No jokes - no recipe's, etc. - because one of them is bound to have one sitting in their in-box and will present it to HR right after you file your complaint.

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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:37 AM
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6. Agreed! nt
Or first forward the freeper a copy of the email/communication policy from your IT department.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:31 AM
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2. Do a "Reply All" with Liberal Stuff.
I'm sure you can do it. Here are some suggested headings --

"Treasonous Republicans: To the Hague or Gitmo?"

"Appealing to the Backwash: How Republicans Can Win in 2006"

"Are the Rapture Ready Capable of Being Good Americans?"

You get the idea. Enjoy! :evilgrin:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:32 AM
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3. Hit "REPLY ALL" and enclose the Snopes URL
--p!
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:36 AM
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5. Cool. Collect their email addresses. Sign them up for shit online.
Subscribe them to gay ezines, or sign them up to receive free hair plug information. There's all kinds of stuff you can do, be creative.
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:57 PM
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23. I agree whole heartedly!
Quit getting pissed.....just get even :D
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:39 AM
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7. What IDIOT thinks the constitution is based on Biblical principles?
:grr:

That is just assinine.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:43 AM
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8. Is Racism a Company Policy?
If not, make an official complaint to the IT people.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:44 AM
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9. Reply All and ask: Who is the Christian Bigot here? Is it You?
Because according to Jesus, all are loved, and this email about a religious war shows hatred that Jesus would no doubt condemn.

This email that asks for intellectual agreement shows no intellect at all. It's inciteful, hateful and inellectually, absolutely the lowest of the low on the smarts scale.

Stop the hate. Stop the war. Stop the bloodshed.

What Would You Do? WWJD?


(just what I would be tempted to do and write :D )
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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:46 AM
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10. I doesn't give me the reply all feature..
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:08 AM
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11. As recommended, forward the message to the appropriate department
at your company. I'm pretty sure most companies have some policy about personal messages, and normally political ones are prohibited, just to keep peace.

The freepers will get the message when the hammer comes down on them.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:54 AM
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12. Substitute 'born-again Christian fundamentalist' for 'Muslim' and send it
back!
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 11:12 AM
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14. Click on "reply all" cc in the IT dept.,
Human Resources and the managers of each of these people. Just say in the e-mail you do not wish to receive this type of mail and consider it offensive. I would not reply back with my own comebacks because then there is a written record of it and it can be used against YOU someday.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 11:51 AM
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15. I agree - I work IT and I'd say it's the HR Depts Responsibility
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 11:53 AM by RamboLiberal
first and the IT second. I work with mostly Freeper types and during '04 when I got some anti-Kerry pro-Bush crap I complained to HR that since not everyone's political beliefs are the same people shouldn't send to all.

If I couldn't reply with the truth then I didn't want to read their crap. If they want to circulate it among themselves I could care less. As much as I'd have love to forward to them the truth we all know here on DU, I respected their political belief.

The fun part was at the time I was also monitoring the spam filter. Maybe it wasn't fair of me but if I saw this crap was stuck in the filter - I sure didn't waste my time forwarding on to them. I figured they were mostly all management/sales types who certainly had personal email accounts where they could get this junk. I figured my responsibility was to make sure legit business email got through.

Now if someone sends me a non-political email I figure to be untrue - like the lead in the lipstick - I will usually send back the Snopes correction to the sender.

Be wary of trying to retaliate with liberal emails cause there's always one whiny freeper in the bunch who will get you in trouble.

I've had it personally with coworkers who bust me the first time I send something they think is not business-related like a news story warning about credit card scams or a joke, but in the mean time I notice how many are spending a lot of their time sending jokes, risque photos and videos, etc. I think sometimes it is retaliation for the few times I've reported abuse of our email/web access.





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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:44 PM
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16. It's always good to know your enemy n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:50 PM
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17. Racist hatemail.
Does your company allow it?

If they do, write some OP-Eds exposing it.


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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:30 PM
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19. The hell with this, I've got nothing better to do this evening...

Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon
God of Arabia.

:-Allah is no more a moon-god than the Christian and Jewish conceptions of God are Sun/Sky gods - Christianity was probably heavily influenced by Mithraism in its founding years. Worshipping a God is not incompatible with being an American.


Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his
Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

:-The last time I checked, there was no religious requirement to qualify as an American, and indeed you constitution was taken to specifically guarnatee freedom of religion


Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars
of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

:-Monotheism, prayer, charitable donations, fasting and pilgrimage are not illegal in America.


Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which
he turns in prayer five times a day.

:-Muslims believe Mecca is a holy place. They don't owe allegiance to it any more than Christians owe allegiance to Bethlehem, Jerusalem or the Vatican.


Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to
make friends with Christians or Jews.

:-Simply untrue.


Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual
leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of
America, the great Satan.

:-Wrong, and wrong. There is no obligation in Islam to "submit" to any given mullah, any more than Christians are required to submit to their priests; only a small fraction of mullahs claim that America is the great satan or call for its destruction.


Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women
and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

:-There's a grain of truth to this one. Read literally, Muslim men are permitted by the Quran to marry multiple wives and to beat them. However, there's a lot of dispute about the interpretation, and nearly all Western muslims don't.


Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American
Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he
believes the Bible to be corrupt.

:-The American constitution, "Biblical principle", an virtually any other moral code you care to name share certain properties in common, but the constitution was specifically not written to enshrine "biblical principals". The Bible is nothing whatsoever to do with being an American.


Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do
not allow freedom of religion and _expression. Democracy and Islam
cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or
autocratic.

:- Again, there's a grain of truth to this one. Indonesia is an obvious counter-example, though.


Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God,"
the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER
referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99
excellent names.

:-The constitutions specifies separation of Church and state. "One nation indivisible under God" says nothing about which God. The claim that Christians perceive God as more loving than Muslims do is controversial, to say the least.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:35 PM
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21. Great post. Bookmarking in case someone sends me this email
thanks
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:34 PM
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20. I've seen some racist shit, but wow. Holy Bigotry, Batman.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:38 PM
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22. Ah. Allah is a "moon god".
Whereas Jesus is merely a ripoff of the Dionysus and Osiris myths, and Jehovah was originally a tribal god in competition with other gods.

And the American Constitution is "based on Biblical Principles"... like what, exactly? Perhaps your "friend" can point out where the word "God" appears in the Consitution.

I'd ask them if they think Atheists, Buddhists or Jews can be "good Americans", either. Fucking fascists.
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