Man, you guys gotta see this.

[LeftCoast]

I couldn't figure out why Jeff Greenfield of CNN (and also AEI - The American Enterprise Institute, a Republican think-tank) would write such a relatively unbiased examination of the Lieberman / Lamont race. As we all know, the standard message from the MSM is that Liebeman is being opposed by the 'anti-war left'. Greenfield actually does a fairly decent, though tardy, job of discussing many of the reasons why Lieberman is losing. So, I'm reading the article, thinking to myself that I may have to re-think my opinion of Greenfield when I get to this line:

So though a Lieberman loss will be interpreted as a signal that the party's base will demand an anti-Iraq presidential candidate, don't forget the special circumstances that Lieberman is facing.

So here we have it...now that it's becoming fairly clear that Lieberman may lose, we can't have people thinking that large numbers of voters are so anti-war that they'll turn out a US Senator. Reality is forcing them to revise their spin. I have to tell ya, it's kinda creepy to watch the manipulation.

Read the whole article here

[Syrinx]

1. I was reading up on Lieberman today

I admit it was on Wikipedia, which a lot of people think is very, very inaccurate. But the article on Joe is locked, and I assume, cleaned up. And if what is on there is mostly accurate, he's a Republican is so many ways. The spin is that he disagrees with the party, on principal, on Iraq, but otherwise he's been a good Democrat. But if most of the stuff in that article is accurate, he would be just at home in the so called GOP. I haven't yet sought out more reliable sources, but I can't vote in the race anyway.

[LeftCoast]

2. I haven't seen the wiki on Lieberman

I'll have to check that out when my brain is more awake. :)

[Syrinx]

8. here's the link

There's a lot of stuff listed about him that I didn't know. Plue a bunch that I did know. He should not only be defeated, but expelled from the party, in my opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman

[EFerrari]

3. Special circumstances = whoops!

:rofl:

[LeftCoast]

4. I'm endlessly fascinated by RW message manipulation

It's shocking how good these folks are at it.

[EFerrari]

5. I agree and I am, too. It's like magic -- especially when it

breaks down into straight projection. :)

[LeftCoast]

6. I wonder if people would be interested in RW meme tracking?

Could be an interesting forum, though pretty wonky. :D

[progdonkey]

7. Bill Schneider, not Greenfield, is the one at the AEI...

At least, I know Schneider is, but I haven't heard that Greenfield is as well.

[acmavm]

9. Everytime I read something like this I wonder again if Senator

Liebermann isn't actively in cahoots with the republican party.

[meegbear]

10. Special circumstances, like a real challenge to his seat

:eyes:

[calico1]

11. What I understood by "special circumstances"

is that CT is made up of mostly Moderate to Liberal voters and Lieberman has increasingly taken positions that go against these constituents. While in other States the Republican incumbents stand to lose to Democrats, we are trying to throw out a bad Democrat and replace him with a good Democrat. So in that sense the situation in CT is different. I thought that's what he was referring to and I have seen other columnists mention the "special circumstance" in CT.

[izzie]

12. Well look at Snowe and Collins for being a little Dem.

If the Dem. in Conn do not pick Joe I think we know where his ego is if he still runs. These middle people do not seem to be doing a thing for any one.

[cgrindley]

13. But it's true, it's not just about the war

There *are* special circumstances that Lieberman is facing.

I live in Connecticut and although the War issue is large on the minds of everyone, it's not the only issue. If anything, there are a bunch of nails in Lieberman's coffin that have nothing to do with the war, but his asshole abandonment of CT during his various runs at the vice presidency and presidency. His support of a bunch of Republican bills didn't go unnoticed. Nor did his rightwing support of moral issues go unnoticed.

Don't paint this as a war only issue, because here in CT, it's not.