Alan Dershowitz's vs. James Zogby up next on Larry King...

[Purveyor]

This ought to be entertaining...

[Clark2008]

1. Alan is an extremist in regards to Israel. He won't listen to

any other viewpoint.

[chimpymustgo]

2. Dershowitz looks like he's lying...and guilty. his arguments are so LAME.

Zogby looks sincere and real.

[QuestionAll...]

8. a man on a bicycle was killed today! those barbarians!

he did the whole cyber soldier routine - flyers, hiding behind citisens, all of it, postage stamp.

geeeze can't they come up with anything else.

Zogby did well, like any reasonable person should. I especially appreciated his held back eyerolls and 'oh, shit, not this crap again'.

[Cha]

15. Zogby had an editorial

around here a couple of weeks ago that was very level-headed.

[cool user name]

12. Dershowitz is a fraud.

Not even an original fraud but has to plagiarize material from other frauds.

:eyes:

[jonnyblitz]

37. that's what is funny. the book he plagiarized from was bullshit

to begin with. :crazy:

[Tom Joad]

3. Dershy is such a war pig.

[Cleita]

4. Too bad Dershowitz can't shut up.

Too bad Larry King can't moderate and make him take his turn.

Too bad! Another waste of time! I'm gone!

[AlamoDemoc]

5. That has always been his tactic....confuse the debate

[jonnyblitz]

6. it's the same tactic some of his acolytes here at DU use also. nt

[AlamoDemoc]

9. Mr. Dershbag has no shame. The man has no place at Harvard faculty

He is plagiarizer and a liar.


On edit: Read "Beyond Chutzpath" By Dr. Norman Finkelstein...he exposes Dirshdouchbag's lies & plagiarism

[survivor999]

14. Oh, he fits perfectly. Look at this recent activities....

Protecting the wealthy from the law is his motto.


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Billionaire money manager Jeffrey Epstein, who donated $30 million to Harvard in 2003, has been charged with soliciting sex from prostitutes in his Palm Beach, Florida mansion—and has hired Frankfurter Professor of Law Alan M. Dershowitz to serve in his defense.

More: http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=514049

[AlamoDemoc]

24. Thanks for the link....I didn't know about Jeffrey Epstein's

hiring of Dirshdouchbag. Hallelujah!

[jonnyblitz]

17. I read that book. It was interesting what FInkelstein had to say

about the Anti Defamation League, also. Apparently they support the Bush's Iraq war.

[pennylane100]

7. OK, I started watching it,

but I keep screaming at that Alan whateverhisnameis, he will not even acknowledge that the death and distruction must stop while peace is negotiated.
What sane conversation can there be after that point.

[QuestionAll...]

10. Alan Dirtsowitz.

[cool user name]

13. That's American media for you.

Rightwing and very loud but sayin' nothin'.

[Swamp Rat]

PUKE!

:puke:

Poor Zogby! Let those of us who are not watching know if he ever gets a word in.

[patdem]

11. Hey, is Larry King Jewish or what? I have noticed ALL TV IN USA

even C-Span allows the pro Israel reps talk on and on..THEN take calls..when a pro Lebanon person gets on...they quote something from the Jewish paper..then go to phone calls...NOT FAIR AND BALANCED...SORRY

Edit: Not only that..but they have FOR BUSH as one line...if they had Republicans/Democrats/Others...THEN we could get a fair idea of what people think!..that PRO bush line pisses me off something HORRIBLE..THEY NEVER HAD A PRO CLINTON LINE..BACK THEN IT WAS BY TIME ZONES..AND NOT EVEN BY POLITICAL AFFLIATION...

[survivor999]

16. Are you implying that....

There is a Jewish media conspiracy or something? At times, it kind of looks that way, no? :)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. They Should Pass A Law Against It (SIC)

Maybe they could base it on the Nuremburg Laws.

[patdem]

19. It is either a conspiracy or a coincendence...can it be BOTH?

just askin? :hi:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. There Should Be A Law Against It

I tell you these pesky Jews are taking over the world

Didn't you get the memo?


SARCASM

[patdem]

21. Sorry..you aint gonna get me enmeshed in that anti Jewish CRAP

I am referring to the coverage about the issue..if you PRETEND it is not one sided..YOU ARE AN IDIOT...and I do not care WHAT YOUR RELIGION IS.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I'll Just Let The Posts Speak For Themselves

patdem (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-03-06 01:41 AM
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11. Hey, is Larry King Jewish or what? I have noticed ALL TV IN USA
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 01:43 AM by patdem
even C-Span allows the pro Israel reps talk on and on..THEN take calls..when a pro Lebanon person gets on...they quote something from the Jewish paper..then go to phone calls...NOT FAIR AND BALANCED...SORRY

Edit: Not only that..but they have FOR BUSH as one line...if they had Republicans/Democrats/Others...THEN we could get a fair idea of what people think!..that PRO bush line pisses me off something HORRIBLE..THEY NEVER HAD A PRO CLINTON LINE..BACK THEN IT WAS BY TIME ZONES..AND NOT EVEN BY POLITICAL AFFLIATION...
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survivor999 (484 posts) Thu Aug-03-06 01:46 AM
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16. Are you implying that....
There is a Jewish media conspiracy or something? At times, it kind of looks that way, no?

[patdem]

25. Okay..YOU force people to take sides in the DEBACLE..I HAVE TAKEN

MINE...TOUCHE YOU WON ANOTHER ENEMY...IS THIS HOW ISRAEL DOES THINGS IN THE MIDDLE EAST? Must be...

And you know what...my comment was...WHAT DO YOU EXPECT A JEWISH PERSON TO BE?

I want to go on..and on and on..but you know what...I really do not give a crap..cause 'you people'..that's right...'you people'..the ones who DECIDE YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US..AND CANNOT POSSIBLY HAVE AN OUNCE OF THOUGHT...ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE...ARE BEYOND EVEN TALKING TO...

I HAVE NOT BEEN THIS PISSED SINCE GORE HAD HIS PRESIDENCY STOLEN IN 2001

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. Whatever

You and your friend said the Jews control the media. If you believe that I 'm glad to count you as an enemy.

And how did Israel become a part of our exchange. You implied Jews control the media.

Yeah, Larry King is a Jew. I guess changing his name from Larry Zeiger couldn't fool you.

[patdem]

29. You know what...I could care less if Larry King was a Catholic...and the

POPE started the war...I would say the EXACT SAME THING...SORRY..AND I NEVER IMPLIED JEWS CONTROLED THE MEDIA..I WAS MAKING A JOKE....HOWEVER THE COVERAGE IS SLANTED...I HAVE TO EITHER BELIEVE YOU OR MY LYING EYES? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. For What It's Worth

CNN is owned bt Time-Warner

FOX is owned by Rupert Murdoch

MSNBC is owned by GE

ABC is owned by Disney

NBC is owned by GE

CBS is owned by Viacom (I'm not sure)


So in all these instances the main stream media is owned by shareholders or a gentile Australian.

[patdem]

I NEVER implied JEWS owned the media...I was only talking about

the SLANT...MEDIA LOVES WAR..THEY MAKE MONEY ON WAR..AND REPORTING ABOUT WAR..AND IN SOME CASES...THEY MAKE MONEY ON THE ARMAMENTS OF WAR (GE)..PLEASE..TELL ME WHERE I SAID JEWS CONTROL THE MEDIA...I HAVE BEEN PISSED AT THE 'FOR BUSH LINE'..SINCE IT BEGAN..I AM SORRY I HAVE TRIED TO BE VERY SENSATIVE TO EVERYONE..ON THIS ISSUE..BUT I GUESS I HAVE TO TAKE A SIDE OR JUST GET OUT OF EVEN POSTING?

Sorry about all the caps..but I am SO very distressed over this...I cannot tell you how very upset this has made me...my best friend (yeah..I know) in Rhode Island was Jewish who's grandparents fled Russia ..yet ..when Russia says something against bush..I say YEAH!..Does not mean I am glad her grandparents were driven from their homes...

[patdem]

31. I NEVER implied JEWS owned the media...I was only talking about

the SLANT...MEDIA LOVES WAR..THEY MAKE MONEY ON WAR..AND REPORTING ABOUT WAR..AND IN SOME CASES...THEY MAKE MONEY ON THE ARMAMENTS OF WAR (GE)..PLEASE..TELL ME WHERE I SAID JEWS CONTROL THE MEDIA...I HAVE BEEN PISSED AT THE 'FOR BUSH LINE'..SINCE IT BEGAN..I AM SORRY I HAVE TRIED TO BE VERY SENSATIVE TO EVERYONE..ON THIS ISSUE..BUT I GUESS I HAVE TO TAKE A SIDE OR JUST GET OUT OF EVEN POSTING?

Sorry about all the caps..but I am SO very distressed over this...I cannot tell you how very upset this has made me...my best friend (yeah..I know) in Rhode Island was Jewish who's grandparents fled Russia ..yet ..when Russia says something against bush..I say YEAH!..Does not mean I am glad her grandparents were driven from their homes...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. I'm Tired And Really Not Looking For A Fight

As far as Larry King he strikes me as a person who tries very hard to be fair and he does seem interested in finding humane solutions to problems.

If you were misconstrued then I regret the breakdown in communication.

[patdem]

33. I have never looked for a fight in this horrible struggle..I have seen

both sides and hoped for a quick resolution..and I hope we can all come back together after it is resolved...I love ALL the people..and I think the people who support the Israeli side are more honest than those who are anti war..It seems they try to use outrage to hook the other side into arguments...

I was trying to be 'cute'.....but I was also being honest about what I have seen in the media. Here is a different equasion.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. Peace

I really consider myself a moderate on this issue. I want justice for the Jews (and) the Muslims. Actually, I want justice for all people.


I just see a lot of over the top rhetoric from folks on both sides of this issue and regretfully I fall into this trap myself.

[patdem]

38. Shalom

...I too have been sucked into some posts because of outrageous statements..rather than doing my own thinking...I think I will just stay out because I am too ignorant about the issues and loaded situations can pull my strings. I DO wish these posts were in the I/P room...for the most part.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. There's Lots Of Good Literature

If you're interested you should read the literature produced by pro-Israel writers and pro-Arab writers ... You will find the truth is somewhere in between.

I see lots of links regarding this issue on this board but they are usually slanted in one direction.

The older I get the more I realize when it comes to history there is no such thing as absolute truth just different versions of events.

[patdem]

42. I agree..I think I want to read about Israel by pro Israel Arabs

and read about Arabs by pro Arab Israelis...I think I might get an honest assesment if they seem to BOTH converge?

Edit: not pro as in not anti..but sort of disinterested in the politics..and only care about the truth, if you get my gist.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. You Will Find More Of The Latter.

eom

[JackNewtown]

40. Speaking of Murdoch and coverage of Israel...

His right-wing network is the most "pro-Israel" of all the networks. That says something...

[grassfed]

34. MEMRI pro-Israel media manipulation from VP ofc

David Wurmser is the Middle East Adviser to Dick Cheney. Wurmser previously served as special assistant to John Bolton at the State Department. He is one of the main authors of the 1996 PNAC Clean Break report prepared for Binyamin Netanyahu.

David Wurmser's wife, Meyrav Wurmser, founded The Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI, a Middle East press monitoring organization that provides "translations" of Arabic and Farsi media that reflect badly on the character of Arabs or in some way furthers the political agenda of Israel. Memri's intent is to find the worst possible quotes from the Muslim world and disseminate them as widely as possible. They have instant access to the top levels of all media hierarchies. Television and radio personalities often read directly from their emails and faxes that also appear verbatim in print.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0, ...
http://www.pnac.info /

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. The Media Is Owned By Capitalists Or Shareholders

If they have an allegiance their allegiance is to presenting the news in the most visually exciting but yet inoffensive fashion possible.

[JackNewtown]

39. No, the media just backs the government line

Israel is hardly the only case where the MSM toes the government line, with the lead-up to the Iraq war being the best example.

[cali]

26. Are you so clueless that you

have absolutely no idea of what you're actually saying? Unfuckingbelievable.

[jonnyblitz]

27. lol.

ya think? :crazy: :hi:

[GAPeace]

22. A has-been professor vs the most prominent Arab activist

I feel sorry for Dershie.