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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:07 AM
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Senators beat the stock market annually by 12 percent on average
Remember this November 2005 Item?

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That is an impressive performance, as fund managers are thought to have the Midas touch if they regularly outperform by about 3 percent, and even hedge funds - which charge steep fees for performance - are now on average only 6 percent better than the market.

The academics who conducted the study looked at 6 000 stock transactions made by senators between 1993 and 1998. They noted that the senators did an especially good job of picking up stocks at just the right time - their buys were typically flat before they bought them, but beat the market by 30 percent, on average, in the year after.

However, it seems the senators might have been given a helping hand. Alan Ziobrowski, a professor at Georgia State University, and his colleagues concluded that at least some senators must have been trading "based on information that is unavailable to the public".

http://www.busrep.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=2984593&fSectionId=613&fSetId=662
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:13 AM
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1. Yes, it's called insider trading
1993 to 1998. I'll bet it's been even worse now.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:15 AM
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2. NY Times article, Feb 2004 - First-time Senators did especially well
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 12:15 AM by cyberpj
NYTimes
Feb 2004

First-time Senators did especially well, with their stocks outperforming by 20 per cent a year on average - a result that very few professional fund managers would be able to achieve.

http://www.nytimes.com/financialtimes/business/FT1075982783472.html?ex=1393131600&en=84995e065fb67b58&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:16 AM
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3. New Yorker, Oct 2005 - Are senators really that smart?


New Yorker
Oct 2005

Are senators really that smart? The authors of the study suggest a more likely explanation: at least some senators must have been trading “based on information that is unavailable to the public”—in other words, they were engaged in some form of insider trading. It’s impossible to pin down exactly how it happened, but it’s easy to imagine senators getting occasional stock tips from corporate supplicants, and their own work in Congress often deals with confidential matters that have a direct impact on particular companies.

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/051031ta_talk_surowiecki
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:24 AM
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4. BREAKING:Frist & Delay Had Day Traders Working Out Of Their Offices
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:26 AM
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19. Saw that, thanks. It's why I dug up these 3 articles as support info.
Thanks for cross-posting it here.

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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:28 AM
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5. this needs front page coverage folks
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 12:30 AM by dweller
K and R !

it's the links to the erupting scandal that will bury the Repugs, sleaze developing.

:kick:

dp
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:24 AM
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18. Thanks. And Kick.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:28 AM
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6. I do now.....
sure makes you wonder how long some have been sitting on this. And why they're exposing it now? Need tinfoil.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:05 PM
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20. Actually, these articles are from 2004 and 2005. No big press though.
I just wanted to dig em up because of the Delay and Frist day-traders post.

SIGH........


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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:37 AM
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7. kicking.
n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:03 AM
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8. I wonder what Martha would say.
Put the criminals IN JAIL!!!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:43 AM
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9. Poor Martha had her reputation ruined & was humiliated for a lot less
I hope the first thing a Dem pres does is to pardon her.. If these fatcats can skate, and *²'s Poppy can buy him a pass on his stock scams, then Martha deserves a pardon, so she can reclaim her company..
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:02 AM
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10. Well, when your voting on legislation that affects market sectors...
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 02:02 AM by Pryderi
Bill Frist et. al.

Personally, I believe no elected official should own or buy stocks while in office.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:04 PM
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21. Sounds like a reform idea that deserves some discussion in public.
Yeah. Like THAT'll happen. :sarcasm:

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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:22 AM
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11. Inside Information
for senator's it's called good stewardship, for the common man that would be called a felony!
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 03:04 AM
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12. Yep, Insider trading....
9/10 records would be nice.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 04:47 AM
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13. They all have Martha Stewart on speed dial.
politicians suck.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 05:57 AM
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14. You hit the nail on the head!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:21 AM
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15. Now we know why Senators are millionaires.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:10 AM
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16. Kick....n/t
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:24 AM
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17. Let's put them in charge of investing the Soc Sec money!
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 09:25 AM by elehhhhna
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