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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:17 PM
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Ed Shultz Is A Looney Tune
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 02:18 PM by rsmith6621

Talk show host....and does nothin to help progress our values.....He's a real phoney....

Tune him out....
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:20 PM
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1. also he is uninformed, a blowhard and
20 muleteam BOREax.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:20 PM
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2. Ummm ... OK, whatever you say.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:20 PM
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3. I agree.
When Fahrenheit 911 came out, he was busy badmouthing Michael Moore and the film, without even seeing it. I sent him an email, expressing my frustration with him spouting off about a movie he hadn't even seen and he wrote back an extremely hostile reply to me. He's so unprofessional. My last straw was when he call Randi Rhodes a slut on the air. He's a pig.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:21 PM
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4. 80% + of him is an act.
He does get very good guests and has a big following
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:23 PM
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7. If he brings just ONE hunting/ fishing/ football-playing midwesterner
away from the dark side, then he has done his job. And I'm quite sure he's helped convert many.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:47 PM
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15. He does have great guests
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:21 PM
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5. What prompts you to say that?
Anything in particular? Or are you just trying to start yet another Ed Schultz bashing thread? Just wonderin'. From a fishin', huntin', beer drinkin', football watchin' kind of guy.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:32 PM
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30. Well, to answer my own question to OP
It looks like this is just another Ed Schultz bashing thread. Since the OP never has replied to any other post, it is safe to assume this. I guess we all have our own tastes. I also guess that if you don't like him, you have the option of turning off his show. Won't be available tomorrow, so I guess I'll miss out on the Thursday Ed bashing thread.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:17 PM
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49. Why Is He Always Bragging About Being 'Meat Eatin'?'
It's annoying -- that is some kind of "I'm OK" pass or something...who cares what he eats? He kind of looks like a walking advertisement for vegetarianism actually!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:22 PM
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6. I don't listen to him, but in my area they have him on instead
of "The Majority Report", which I have to catch on stream. He appeals to the very moderate Democratic men in my area though, so I guess he won't be easy to get rid of here.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:34 PM
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8. I enjoy listening to Ed. He's not a LW as some here, but I guess I'm
not either. I don't always agree with him, but then I don't always agree with ANYBODY!

I guess you're complaining that he didn't buy into the whole 911 conspiracy thing. Well, I watched the cspan coverage this weekend, and I also watched the video Loose Change. I'm not 100% convinced either, but there sure are more questions than answers.

I guess everyone has to make their own decision on what radio shows they want to listen to and which ones they don't!
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:47 PM
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16. I agree with you.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 02:48 PM by Tinksrival
I'm listening right now on the discussions on Norad and 911 panel. I think it's a good discussion.
You have to listen to all info, not just what fits into your particular view. Listeners got on his ass about watching the program on c-span and he did. Now he is giving his view on it. I think it's a good discussion.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:56 PM
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22. Thats right, he's not a far lefty and thats the key to being liked here
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:07 PM
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23. I'm not a far lefty either. But I dislike his Limbaugh wanna be style.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:37 PM
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9. He's a blowhard just like Limbaugh. I can't stand him. nt
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:47 PM
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17. Well, there's ONE thing he does just like Limbaugh that I don't like
Bash Dems. Especially Howard Dean.

Frankly, I don't listen to hear what HE has to say, but rather what the callers have to say. Now, if he wants to start bshing Cons 99% of the time (instead of Democrats), then I'll listen a little more intently to what he's saying.

Some of his opening rants have been pretty good. But then he goes right back to bashing Democrats.
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moez Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:00 PM
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37. Your poor ears!!
God forbid you have to hear someone say something that you don't agree with!

It's must be so comfortable in your little cocoon...
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:50 PM
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53. Wish I had a cocoon.
Jackass.
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moez Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:08 AM
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54. Jackass?!
Ooops! I guess you had to see something you didn't agree with again....

You poor, poor little thing.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:41 PM
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10. I just disagree with him on many issues.
I don't think he is a loon, and he does push some progressive values. He is a RADIO PERSONALITY, consequently of course he is a real phony - its entertainment.

On the other hand he is not Rush Limbaugh and he does have a good sized audience, so more power to him.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:42 PM
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11. I've Stopped Listening.
I tune in for a few minutes now and then just to see what he's talking about ...

... And it is always "Big Eddie is doing this" and "Big Eddie to doing that" and "Big Eddie is goin' fishin'" and "Big Eddie is goin' golfin'"... "Big Eddie", "Big Eddie", "Big Eddie".

What a yawn.

And what is this "izril" he says he is supporting 100 percent?

Schultz could best be called a Lieberman Democrat it seems to me ... very cautious, very defensive, very much 'insider' establishment DLC. I could imagine that he gets advice from Bob Shrum.

Schultz is on the radio at the same time as Randi in Denver ... so I've been streaming Rhodes. She is much better than "Big Eddie" and not so conceited.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:51 PM
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19. Me Too - Boring & Uninformed
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:24 PM
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38. I agree.
I stopped listening a long time ago.

I just can't listen to him.

TC
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:45 PM
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12. Ed has his tongue so far up Joe LIEberman's ass...
that I can see his tongue wiggling behind Joe's eyes.

I hope Schultz chokes on a Dungeness crab.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:22 AM
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57. AGREED. His position is to promote DLC'ers...Corporate "Dems" who are
actually Republicans with D Labels. His BIG job: get Hillary nominated.

The one thing he does, that may be his undoing, is to assume we're just like the dumbasses he used to talk to on Right Wing radio. Guess again Ed, we've got you figured out.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:17 AM
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59. I would rather have Repukes listening to Ed than to Rush
I think he's a decent "Halfway House" for Repukes seeking the light.

However, I can think of no reason why progressives, liberals, and yellow-dog Democrats should waste their time listening to him.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:45 PM
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13. He's a bloviating right wing charlatin...
laughing all the way to the bank.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:46 PM
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14. I like Ed
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:11 PM
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25. Me too.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:22 PM
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27. Me as well. And I like Mike Malloy.
Both express views that are sometimes either a bit to the right or to the left of my leanings. So what. These are radio personalities, folks, not elected officials.

If they piss you off, turn it off.

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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:49 PM
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18. I like Shultz, He doesn't see every situation in black and white, only.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 02:50 PM by augie38



edit: spelling
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:53 PM
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20. Big Ed is livin'
and learning along the way. Can't say i agree with him on everything, but enjoy his guests and he does rip a new one in the righties that call in regularly.

he brings the (really really) good old boys over from the dark side, i've heard them call in and express their views that support the Dems, and that's got to be good.

i'll even rec your thread, in spirit of Big Ed's open mike.

it's a big picture.
dp
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:54 PM
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21. Why?
Cause he debunked that tin foil professor on the c-span show that keeps saying the hijackers are a live? That the Guardian interviewed them? So Ed has his staff call the paper to confirm and informs his listeners that it's garbage. How dare he! What a loony! :sarcasm:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:08 PM
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24. I remember those interviews very clearly after 9-11. They were also on CNN
and other US outlets. They were explained as not knowing who had whose passports, etc. They interviewed pilots who said, "Hey, I'm right here. I'm alive." It was quickly dropped.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:28 AM
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60. Debunked? That's funny.
The professor obviously is using the term "hijackers" with quotes. Because if they were hijackers of the planes that struck the WTC they would be dead. The professor obviously is saying that the FBI/CIA/BushCo list of "hijackers" were not the so called hijackers if they are alive.

Ed deliberately refuses to use logic on that very point.

He has his reasons: that conspiracy discussions won't help Hillary get elected.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:19 PM
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26. He talks loud. He yells like Rush. He probably is responsible for
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 03:21 PM by higher class
converts.... But he is verrrrrryyy sllllooooowwww to catch on to the truth. His first attempt at analysis often involves buying the crap of the Republicans. But he has changed his mind on some issues a little. There may be hope on some other issues ... IF there is enough time left for him to catch on. Very stubborn. Very typical DLC. Lots of improvement needed in analyzing things in relation to 'little people'.

Progressives are for children. Make the care of the child and their ability to thrive our common denominator and you can't go wrong.

When only some children thrive ... we've got it wrong.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:24 PM
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28. Someone (or many ) needs to email him this article at this link
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:33 PM
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31. okay, i will
and why don't you too as back up?

we can compare replies.

dp
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:46 PM
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42. Ok, I will
I hope others do as well. I heard the beginning of his show today where he was laughing and making light of the whole subject. I thought right then that he had seriously jumped the shark because even though he watched the C-Span panel, he went into it with a closed mind and was not entertaining the idea that some of what is being said just might be true.

He swallowed the bait from this administration and he is passing it along as undisputed truth. That does no one any good. His laughter today was too much for me.

Here's the address if anyone else wants to send this along to him too. http://www.bigeddieradio.com/emailEd/index.asp

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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:27 PM
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29. He is more of a DLC lite politics, and sometimes eats up talking points

from the right. He is not a RWer by any stretch though.

I would prefer another, but its that or the CD player on my drive home.

The CD player wins most of the time.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:33 PM
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32. He carries water for the corporate and established institutions
He likes to pronounce he is this or that but when the thin vail is uncloaked from him any left leaning person is sure to see how shallow his knowledge base is about most of the subjects and why he is really just more of the same ole establishment agenda pushing thugs. If he doesn't agree with someone he gets angry with them and mostly fails to realize that he is ignoring them, talks over them and filibusters (just only a little bit different then most right wing hosts)and he ignores what they have to say if not couched in the way he wants to talk about. He is kind of subtle about it, but does it none the less. He is very opinionated about so many things because he refuses to try understand the subjects he trying to talk about to be more succinct

Now if I could only get up enough initiative to listen to some of them out in the open wingers without getting sick and :puke: my guts out while I am listening x(
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:42 PM
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35. ..thats the truth. He also strikes me as intellectually lazy.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 03:42 PM by oc2002
..until a caller calls up to inform him that his position on issue xyz is not balanced with all the information relevant to it.

then he just reconsiders and admits he may have to look at the issue again.

talk about lazy.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:37 PM
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33. Cannot stand him or his broadcasting style
He's a blowhard and isn't nearly well enough informed to shoot his mouth off the way he does.

Thom Hartmann canm reach the middle much more effectively than Shultz ever will, and he remains true to his progressive principles while doing so.

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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:40 PM
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34. I think you are being hard on "Big Ed"
Look, it's clear that he is a failed genetic experiment.

Cloning is new, and Rush Limbaugh paid good money to have himself cloned... but it just didn't play out. Hence, he had to exile his clone.

I hope, that when I am cloned, I don't produce a blithering retard like "Big Ed". It would tear my heart to have to exile my retard clone.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:44 PM
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36. I like him 85% of the time. He is right-leaning in some ways.
And he does seem to be in support of the more right-leaning branch of the DLC, but he is mostly okay.

He was in support of the Alito Filibuster, and was an advocate for Cindy Sheehan/Camp Casey (and did live Broadcasting from there), and did EXCELLENT- If not THE BEST Katrina coverage in the media.

I like his callers and his guests too.

I give Big Eddie a B.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:25 PM
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39. tune in Randi
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:41 PM
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40. I can't listen to him, BUT
I believe he is picking up votes for the Democratic Party in some pretty RED areas.
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:44 PM
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41. I aree
I was just listening to some of his numbskullery. He is just as ignorant as most conservatives, not open minded.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:47 PM
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43. Yup-you got that right!
:puke:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:48 PM
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44. He is Pro-Union and makes that fact well known.
That's enough for me to like him.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:50 PM
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45. He is a solid moderate Democrat.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 05:24 PM by BrightKnight
He is solidly anchored in the Democratic party and he influences a lot of moderate and independent voters. We need more people like that on the air.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:55 PM
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46. On some subjects, he helps
On the subject of Israel he does not.

And I detect that his mind still sometimes works like a Republican in that he wanders off subject and brings in comments that are besides the point. He is too binary on the subject of Israel. If you support Lebanon, you support Hezzbolah in his mind.

On domestic issues, he is much better.

He is a Hillary Democrat.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:02 PM
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47. If he brings moderates and fence-sitting independents to the Dem side
Then I'm all for him. He connects to the rural voters, not to some dreadlocked Adbusters subscriber in Berkeley. He's holding down the center and attracting "straights" to the fold.

If the far left has a problem with that, too freakin' bad. The mass of people in middle America need to hear a solid voice of moderation before they can be convinced of the left's seriousness. Someone shouting and ranting about the evils of the PNAC and 9/11 being an "inside job" will just alienate the folks we need to reach the most.

Yes, he's to the right of my views. I understand that. He's the honey to our vinegar.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:25 PM
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51. You are exactly right
There are millions of people who agree with compasionate politics, but who are turned off by the radicals who push the envelope of mainstream discourse. I often disagree with Ed, but I'll never deny that he is converting more voters than DU is or ever will.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:04 PM
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63. Hear hear!
:toast:
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:03 PM
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48. disagree.. Ive been on the show.. no screening lets us talk!
He has had hours of 911 talk, and election fraud.. it doesnt matter if he personally understands these things, it matters that Americans get to hear them. In fact I suggest all of DU call him daily..
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:19 PM
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50. I Do Like That He Doesn't Screen
But quite often the callers bring up things he has no idea about -- and he is very, very quick to label a lot of things "conspiracy theories" that I don't think are.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:42 PM
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52. Ed is an "average Jo" and we need voices like his in our corner.
I like Big Ed.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:26 AM
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58. He's an average REPUBLICAN shoving more repub values in our faces. Even if
those R's wear D labels.

He can behave likeably, however pay attention to what road he is REALLY leading you down and WHO he really promotes.
Ed is transparent. Really it is too damned bad, he COULD have been outstanding.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:01 PM
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61. Bologna.
:eyes:

Ed Schults is a recovering republican who has done a great job reaching out to "average white males" - telling them the truth about Bushco.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:12 AM
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55. I wonder if he will come out supporting Lamont after he wips LIEberman

Because that would be the right thing to do.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:19 AM
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56. Not this shit again.
.... yeah, I guess he's worse than a Repuke right?

Here are some points to refute the copious amounts of BULLSHIT in this thread.

1) The vast majority of "swing" voters that we need to move to our side will NEVER BE THE "PROGRESSIVES" you want them to be. GET OVER IT.

2) Comparisons to Limbaugh are ridiculous. ED let's ANYONE call into his show and air their point. He may disagree with it, and I often disagree with him, but to compare him with a scripted, controlled show like Limbaugh is ridiculous.

Ed is not even close to my favorite talk show but get real. Do you think Malloy is bringing more folks to see our point of view? No fucking way.

People don't flip from one side of the spectrum to the opposite side overnight. It is a process and Ed is a good first step. Stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:03 PM
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62. Exactly. We don't need more people preaching to the choir. We need
people who can relate to voters we don't currently have.
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