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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:39 AM
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Rummy Gets "To Add Crimes At Will" To New "WH Non-Terrorist Bill"
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 09:00 AM by kpete
Posted on Wed, Aug. 02, 2006
MILITARY COURTS

Bush seeks expanded military tribunal roleThe White House is seeking legislation that would allow people not affiliated with terrorism to be prosecuted in military commissions -- with far fewer rights than afforded civilians.
Washington Post Service

WASHINGTON - A draft Bush administration plan for special military courts seeks to expand the reach and authority of such ''commissions'' to include trials, for the first time, of people who are not al Qaeda members or the Taliban and are not directly involved in acts of international terrorism, according to officials familiar with the proposal plan.

The plan, which would replace a military trial system ruled illegal by the Supreme Court in June, also allows the secretary of defense to add crimes at will to those under the military court's jurisdiction. The two provisions would be likely to put more individuals than previously expected before military juries, officials and independent experts said.

The draft proposed legislation, set to be discussed at two Senate hearings today, is controversial inside and outside the administration because defendants would be denied many protections guaranteed by the civilian and traditional military criminal justice systems.

Under the proposed procedures, defendants would lack rights to confront accusers, exclude hearsay accusations, or bar evidence obtained through rough or coercive interrogations. They would not be guaranteed a public or speedy trial and would lack the right to choose their military counsel, who in turn would not be guaranteed equal access to evidence held by prosecutors.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/15176692.htm?source=rss&channel=miamiherald_nation
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:42 AM
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1. In Nazi Germany
They called this the "Enabling Act", because it made Hitler the supreme ruler of Germany. I guess the Republicans were real serious about that "one-party rule" plan that they started back in 1994.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:42 AM
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2. these fascists must be voted out pronto
if we ever want to have a chance at restoring the republic.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:55 AM
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3. Who says these guys don't learn from history
They've got the third reich script down to a tee.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:37 AM
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4. Things aren't legal just because they say they are.
This is another blatant attempt at school yard intimidation. The Constitution and the BoR still stand.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:25 AM
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5. That depends entirely on what the Supremes say about it n/t
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:49 AM
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6. Who is going to liberate us?
I guess we'll have to do it ourselves.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:52 AM
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7. And regardless of a guilty/not guilty decision
they are still Enemy Combatants led back to their cells until such time as the "War on Terror" is won.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:54 AM
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8. K & R
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:55 AM
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9. Recommended
Frickin' nazis.:grr:
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:00 PM
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10. Does this sound like an administration
that plans on vacating the white house in 2 years?? I don`t think that they are putting al of this s**t inplace only to hand it over to dems. I pray I`m wrong, but, I fear I`m right.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:50 PM
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13. Kicked.
Would K&R, but I can't recommend threads yet... Don't know where the threshold lives.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:57 PM
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17. The threshold lives within
and WELCOME meldroc...
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:55 PM
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16. I have the same thought as you...Why would they give this sort of power to
..a potential Democratic Administration that they KNOW would use it to come after them, UNLESS they knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will NEVER be another Democratic administration....

This is the thought that keeps me awake at night....

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:41 PM
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11. Do the 31% know THIS?? OMG!! TREASON!!!! ALL REPUBLICANS
must be DEFEATED!! I'd say more, but it's bad Karma.

I'd like to ask Lieberman about this one!

AND RALPH NADER, who saw NO DIFFERENCE between Bush and Gore!!!!!!!!!!!
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:43 PM
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12. Who gets to decide on whether this passes or not?
I sent my Senator an HFS! email about it...:scared:
I really hope that whoever is voting on this LOOKS at it and decides that enough is too much and votes :thumbsdown:
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:20 PM
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14. I heard Rachel Maddow on AAR discussing this this AM
This is some scary stuff
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:52 PM
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15. Everyday we are one step closer to the edge.
Most won't even notice it when we fall and the only thing that will catch us is the police state.
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