Doesn't Lebanon have a right to exist?

[DoYouEverWonder]

An Israeli artillery unit fires a shell toward Lebanon from its position on the Israeli-Lebanese border August 2, 2006.




Smoke fills the air following air strikes on the Lebanese village of Aita al-Shaab.




A rescue worker puts the body of a dead girl on a gurney after Israeli air strikes on the southern Lebanese village of Qana.




Lebanese victims which were recovered from the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by an Israeli war plane in the village of Qana




The IDF continues to flatten entire cities in Lebanon. How much longer will this be allowed to continue? Until there is no more Lebanon?

[leftchick]

1. It appears you have answered your own question DYEW

according to the Israeli and American neo-cons it will not stop until Lebanon is gone.

:(

an israeli neo-con apologist told me these people are posing for the cameras with the people Israel has killed...



A relatives looks at the body of Lebanese victim Awad Jamaleddin, 58, one of seven villagers killed in an attack by Israeli warplane missiles, before he was carried toward the cemetery by a bulldozer at the village of Al Jamaliyeh near the northeastern city of Baalbek, Lebanon Wednesday, Aug. 2, 2006. Israel launched its deepest ground strike into Lebanon on Wednesday, claiming it had killed 10 Hezbollah guerrillas and captured five in the northeastern city of Baalbek while nearby air strikes killed at least 15 civilians. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)

he doesn't look interested in the camera.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. The picture that did it for me:

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MTUwOTkmbnI9MTQ_3,00.html

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. Yes, that image is very powerful

It shows the level the Israelis have sunk to.

[Sherman A1]

7. That photo says it all

[TahitiNut]

18. What? You have something against kids with penpals?

Whee! Fun! Text-messaging!

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,668017,00.jpg

:puke:

[blurp]

43. Or how about kids in a parade holding rockets?

[TahitiNut]

44. Couldn't you find an even lower standard of behavior?

Quite frankly, I find the image you've offered to be marginally less obscene (though still reprehensible) than the malignant flippancy of the 'penpal' image.

The tactic of "but Sally did it first, mommy" is juvenile and completely irresponsible - and, at the very least, dysfunctionally codependent when adopted by (purported) adults.

[Robbien]

3. Since it does not have a US funded military machine with which to bomb

its neighbors back to the stone age, I suppose not.

[Cassandra]

4. That's a question that might be put to Hezbollah.

However, Israel also needs to be asked what the hell it thinks it's doing, because this is majorly stupid and pointless.

[madokie]

5. apparently not

[GreenArrow]

8. Doesn't Frankenstein's monster have a right to exist?

.

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. Your point?

Are you trying to say the Lebanese people are monsters?

[GreenArrow]

10. not at all

I'm simply saying that there is a Frankenstein's monster running wild in the Middle East, and that those empowered to give that creature life perhaps erred in both reasoning and application when they chose to do so.

[bvar22]

11. Are you referring to the US Military?

"Frakenstein's Monster running wild in the Middle East"?

[GreenArrow]

25. no. . .

let's just say that some things are better off never done.

[LostinVA]

33. Maybe you need to see how and why Hezbollah was created

It is similar, imo, to the IRA. And, as with the IRA, even if I deplore their campaigns, I can understand the reason it all came about.

[treestar]

12. No, as long as there is a single person there who opposes

Israel's right to exist, Lebanon has no right to exist and no right to defend itself.

:sarcasm:

[Tom Joad]

15. Not only Israel's "right to exist" but its right to do whatever it damn

well pleases.

[breakaleg]

16. Thank-you! n/t

[noonwitch]

13. Lebanon does, but Hezbollah doesn't

I hope that the Israelis take them out for good, so that the people of Lebanon can have peace. The Lebanese government has neither the ability nor the will to root them out and destroy them.

[breakaleg]

17. do you know how Hezbollah came about?

Look it up. They are a resistance organziation that Israel created by it's last acts of agression in Lebanon. They were defending their country then and in some sense, are now as well.

Only the US and Israel calls them a terrorist organization. Is the rest of the world wrong?

[noonwitch]

23. They get their funding now from Iran

I don't always support everything Israel does, but in this situation, I do. Hezbollah is firing missles into their country. Hezbollah could have avoided the whole thing if they had just given the soldiers back. But, no, they care more about killing Israelis than they do about protecting the Lebanese.

[Lindacooks]

40. Talking points.

You're just repeating talking points.

Israel could have avoided the whole thing if they hadn't killed the family on the beach in Gaza, and not kidnapped the doctor and his son, and not occupied Lebanon in the 1980s, and just swapped prisoners as they have done before.

[Clarkie1]

30. Israel did not create Hezbollah.

The members of Hezbollah created Hezbollah.

[DoYouEverWonder]

21. Who is Hezbollah?

I'm automatically supposed to hate this group, which until the last few weeks, I knew very little about.

Should we kill all 'Hezbollah' or just the militant ones? Should we kill their families and flatten their houses just in case? Should we cut them off from fuel, food and water for an indefinite period of time? Should we drop bunker busters on their houses every night just to make them pay?

[bvar22]

26. If Israel keeps up the current pace,

the only "Peace" the people of Lebanon will know is the "Peace of the Grave"

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[Tom Joad]

14. According to Bush and Kerry, not really. Not unless they support

Israeli policy, and promise to give Israel whatever it wants.

[sistersofmercy]

19. Apparently not

[Freddie Stubbs]

20. Yes, but it also has a responsibility to control the terrorists within its

borders.

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. How about the terrorist who have taken over our country

We can even vote them out, how the hell do we expect anyone else to get rid of their bad guys?

[LostinVA]

34. Too simplistic -- the situation is waaaaay more complex than that

[jrd200x]

24. Not if they HARBOR and PROTECT Terrorists the don't

especially if those terrorists want to kill your children - and believe me, they do.

[Minstrel Boy]

27. The United States does the same. You need look no further than Miami.

Though you could.

[greguganus]

32. I dont see Miami firing missiles at Cuba n/t

[LostinVA]

35. If they had them, they would be -- oi!

[DoYouEverWonder]

37. LOL, then you don't know what goes on down there

When I moved to Miami in the late 70's bombings were almost a regular thing. To walk down Collins Ave and see a bombed out restaurant was not considered unusual.

More recently, last November Santiago Alvarez an anti-Castro Cuban was busted when the FBI found his weapons cache stashed at his Broward County condo. The judge said there was enough explosives (including C4) and weapons to cause a major bloodbath. Santiago defended himself by saying that he did not intend to use these weapons in this country.

[greguganus]

38. So how many missles have landed in Cuba from Miami? n/t

[DoYouEverWonder]

39. Would you like a list?

January 8, 1968: A bomb explodes in a suitcase in Havana

January 25, 1968: Bombs placed in various commercial establishments in the United States

February 1, 1968: Mexican Consulate in Miami bombed

February 2, 1968: Bomb placed in British consul’s house in Miami

March 12, 1968: Bomb placed in restaurant belonging to Cuban immigrants in the United States

March 13, 1968: Bomb placed in Chilean Consulate in the United States

April 2, 1968: Bomb placed in pharmaceutical company in United States

April 22, 1968: Bomb placed in Mexican Consulate, United States

April 22, 1968: Bomb placed in Spanish Tourism Office in the United States

May 5, 1968: British ship Greenwood bombed in the United States

May 25, 1968: Bomb placed aboard the Japanese ship Aroka Maru in the United States

more....



http://www.independence.net/orlandobosch/

[greguganus]

41. Still no bombs from Miami to Cuba

Guess that answers it.

[leesa]

28. Nah. Just Muslims there.

[BeHereNow]

29. Only as a PNAC stepping stone to Syria and Iran.

God.
That beautiful child robbed of her life.
FOR WHAT?
FOR FUCKING WHAT?


I am incensed by the maddness of the planet,
courtesy of the Bush KKKabal and Israel's gold fish eating
ass hole of a leader.

BHN:cry:
I can't cry hard enough, as the song goes.

[guinivere]

36. Israel doesn't seem to think so.

[JackNewtown]

42. No, its backers haven't coughed up the cash. No ALPAC? No rights. nt