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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:15 AM
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2-Part Plan For Sustainable Ceasefire In Middle East
Part 1: Putin cuts off Israel's oil
Part 2: Bush cuts off financial aid to Israel

Result: Sustained cease fire.

Please feel free to point out weaknesses in the plan.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:18 AM
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1. Oil Is Fungible
It is bought and sold on the world market.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:20 AM
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2. True
But it does not change the fact that Israel gets its oil from Russia.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:22 AM
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3. So They Will Just Get Their Oil Somehere Else
But I presume the Russian oligarchs who control the oil industry could give a rat's ass about the politics of the consumer.

After all we get oil from Iran...
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:35 AM
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4. From whom? They've pissed off pretty much everyone, incl oil-exporters nt
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:42 AM
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5. Sure Won't Be The Saudis, or Iran, or Indonesia, and We're Flat Out
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:45 AM
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6. I'm Not An Expert On The Oil Market
But I believe the oil is produced by nations and distributed by the multinational oil companies.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:47 AM
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7. I have 2 imagine those states can easily dictate who their oil is sold 2
...if they're enraged enough.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:51 AM
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9. I Think There Are Dozens Of Oil Exporting Nations Including The U S A
So such a plan would be unworkable.


For instrance even though we import almost 60% of our oil we still sell oil to Japan because of it's relative proximity to Alaska.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:49 AM
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8. Part 3: Final Solution to the Jewish Problem?
I don't know whether to be underwhelmed by the lack of brilliance of this idea, or appalled at the blatant disregard for the fate of the Jewish people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:57 AM
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:06 AM
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13. Nice generalization. Many Israelis are probably more outraged than
you are by what is happening.
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eFriendly Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:18 AM
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19. My heart pumps purple panda pee
The Israelis (and their supporters) make sweeping generalizations about the Lebanese and other peoples all of the time... why should the Israelis be excluded from the same treatment?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:20 AM
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20. I assume you despise all Americans including yourself, in this case.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 08:21 AM by Mass
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:20 AM
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21. Maybe You Should Go See A Doctor
"My heart pumps purple panda pee."
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eFriendly Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:22 AM
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24. !
:applause:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:24 AM
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25. I Take That As You Embrace My Suggestion
Don't forget to bring a sample.
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eFriendly Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:26 AM
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26. Nah. . .
Just applauding your 'snappy wit' is all. :eyes:

Grow up.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:28 AM
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27. "Grow up"
I try to help you with a potential medical problem and you insult me.

Not very nice but I still hope you address your urinary infection.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:07 AM
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14. I take it you hold
Americans in the same esteem?
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eFriendly Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:20 AM
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22. Sure do. . .
Especially if the Americans you are referring to are acting like cowards who kill sleeping women and children, in the name of 'self-defense.'
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:22 AM
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23. No, I means ALL Americans including yourself.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:18 AM
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18. Thank you for visiting DU. I hope you enjoy your stay. n/t
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:05 AM
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11. Thanks for the Godwinization...
...now contribute something that isn't a strawman. :eyes:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:09 AM
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No shit!!!
As much as I condemn Israel's heavy handed actions in this crisis, a plan that 100% ensures the obliteration of Israel borders on blatant antisemitism.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:06 AM
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12. Oh, of course it is only the evil Israelis who do wrong.
Give me a fucking break.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:07 AM
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15. Olmert announced this morning
that there will be no cease fire until the International force moves in. Since this force will be made up of mostly Europeans, the EU needs to cut off all aid to Israel immediately. That alone will stop the fighting.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:09 AM
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16. What Aid Does Israel Get From The EU?
eom
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:09 AM
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17. That's just silly.
It's about as realistic as any fairy tale.

Bush won't do anything of the kind, and as others have pointed out, oil is fungible.

Here's what I hope: Under a dem President, there's a concentrated effort to pressure Israel to start dismantling settlements; then hopefully talks and negotiations begin.
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