Share your thoughts on this fact: Germany was a Democracy before Hitler

[The Sushi Bandit]

Does history repeat itself??

Will America become the next Reich?

[Beelzebud]

1. Give it time. We're getting there.

[Goon]

2. Depends

Depends on what happens in November and within the next two years.

[A HERETIC I AM]

3. A Democracy ELECTED Hitler

so, for a time anyway, Germany was a Democracy during Hitler

[chefgirl]

4. Since you asked

The biggest thought that comes to my mind is all those people who think its ridiculous to compare Bush to Hitler.

These are obviously people who must think Hitler just appeared out of the clear blue sky on the day they finished building the last concentration camp. For Christ's sake, I wish these people would read some history.
Hitler spent years (not unlike the GOP for the past 25 yrs) plotting to seize power and subjugate an entire nation, not just the Jews. And just like KKKarl and the little idiot, Hitler spent a lot of time figuring out how to get away with it all.

There are FAR too many parallels between the two to ignore, and when you consider that the BFEE, all that long ago, were already fascist supporters, its barely any leap at all to believe history will repeat itself.

Yes, it CAN happen here, and I believe it already is happening, and if it does, it will be because of those very people who think its so silly to compare Bush and Hitler.

-chef-

[bananarepublican]

6. Also, Hitler came to power without ever getting more than 33% of the vote!

Bush came to power with less votes than Gore. In '04 he stole enough votes to look a little more respectable.

[cynatnite]

8. To be honest, I sometimes agree and sometimes don't...

What always muddies up the comparison for me is the death of six million Jews in concentration camps. Throwing that in with the comparison really tips the scales and bush looks like a saint.

There've been times I swore up and down bush was Hitler part II. I may have said it a time or two here at DU when I've gotten really pissed.

Like someone said earlier in this thread, it's too early to tell at this point. Now if Jan 2008 comes and goes and bush is still in office, then I will definitely go with what many believe with no hesitation on my part.

[magellan]

9. Not to be contentious

...or a smart aleck, though I am both :) , but do we really need to see Bush** exterminate millions before we can say, "Yep, this here's the new Hitler." ??

[cynatnite]

10. You are very right...

and that does shed light on this in a way that should be talked about by more people. If bush were to go in that direction I don't believe it would in the same way as Hitler did.

The one thing that has scared the hell out of me with this guy in office is that he practically has his finger on the button. He's got the attitude of a little boy who wants to see what a real nuclear bomb can do. 'Wow, dig those fireworks, Dick!'...that's what I imagine him saying.

I certainly wouldn't want to wait until millions are dead at his hand so he could say, 'gawd said it'd happen'.

bush is insane. I truly believe that and when I think about it, so was Hitler.

Food for thought. :)

[The Sushi Bandit]

15. Is Bush forcing the rapture?

by being the anti-christ??

PS I think that rapture stuff is a load of crap

[Hubert Flottz]

14. 62 million people died during WW II

40% of those killed were military.

Hitler never had super computers, spy satellites, advanced long rage ICBMs with advanced multiple nuclear warheads, tactical nuclear weapons, nuclear attack submarines, nuclear carrier task forces, stealth aircraft, tomahawk missiles with nuclear warheads, ME-1 tanks, depleted uranium ammo or Karl Rove.

[Uncle Joe]

13. Bush does not need to write Mein Kampf,

he has Ann Coulter and the like to do it for him and the Mass Corporate Media gives her the platform.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

5. I hope not!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4258946892514662399&q=9%2F11+American+Scholars+Symposium American Scholars for Truth Symposium

[nealmhughes]

7. Actually Germany was pretty darned democratic under the Empire.

The Weimar Republic just did away with all the constitutional monarchs there. There were kings in Baden, Wurtemburg, Prussia (also the Emperor was the KofP), Saxony, Bavaria, etc. And more grand dukes than anyone could shake a stick at... They were all constitutional monarchies by the time of the Empire.

[originalpckelly]

11. The problem is democracy itself.

We have a republic not a democracy. Republics do the right thing, even when it is not popular. They don't take away the freedoms (and liberties) of a group for arbitrary reasons.

America is too much of a democracy. Gay marriage is a good example. The "eeeew" factor with most people in our country is the only reason disapproval of this action is so high. However, someone being slightly disgusted with a people or practice, does not give them the right to deny those people legal rights. I think it is quite amazing that during this debate, many of the people who are simply bigoted and against gay marriage, frequently used the phrase "let democracy decide."

The same thing happened once with slavery during the time right before the civil war:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas-Nebraska_Act

Many Democrats around here might be pissed off that I would make such a declaration, but I also happen to understand the real meaning of Democrat. While it may be taken to mean popular sovereignty unfettered, it shouldn't as the original meaning of Democrat in a political party was this following definition:
The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.
(While usually taken to be small "d" democrat. It was the origination of the word for the use of a name political party.)
Remember Democrat vs. Aristocrat, not Democrat vs. Republican.

[The Sushi Bandit]

12. Interesting point you make

also, the Roman "Republic" lead to dictatorships!

[cynatnite]

16. Mobocracy...

that's what one of the founding fathers said about democracy. Can't remember which one.