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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:16 PM
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To: The world leaders
From: The rest of us.

We're tired of being used as chess pieces in your bloody squabbles. If you want land, resources, or simply to salvage your pride or further your own personal ambition, we don't want to be a part of it anymore. From this moment on, if you pick a fight with another world leader, we're going to bundle you up, carry you bodily to a predetermined location. You will be given an assortment of weapons to use and allowed to settle it between you and your opponent mano-a-mano. Man to man. Or woman, as the case may be.

You can no longer look upon us to settle your differences for you. We will no longer don a uniform, or carry a rifle, or kill other humans to further your goals. We're done. No amount of appealing to our patriotism, or deriding us for "cowardice," will sway our resolve. Our lives are not yours to spend. Nor are the lives of your opponents' countrymen HIS to spend. Our lives belong to ourselves, our families, and our communities. And WE get to choose what's worth our lives to defend, should the question come up.

We call for the instant abolishment of all military bodies except those who fulfill the mission of a National Guard. We call upon all the leaders of terrorist and insurgent organizations to surrender themselves to the custody of the citizens of Earth. If you do not, you will die. We the People of Earth have thus decided--we are not your playthings. You can no longer manipulate us into killing our fellows for your political or monetary benefit.

We are finished with war. You may no longer call upon our faith in a higher power to bring us to battle, for we have listened to the words of the prophets--ALL the prophets--and we choose to follow the teachings of peace that you have spurned.

Osama Bin Laden. You are hereby directed to appear before the World Citizen Court to be transported to a undiscosed location, where, upon arriving, you will be made to prepare for single combat versus the United States President, George W. Bush. If you should happen to defeat him, you will be allowed to rest until the next world leader who seeks to challenge you is prepared. We consider it possible, but unlikely, that it will be Tony Blair.

Do not seek to evade us. We are everywhere. Literally.

If this sort of thing sounds too tame or trivial for all of you, we may consider the possibility of building giant robots for the purpose of conducting these battles. Considering all the money we will be able to save and the resources we will suddenly have available, such a task is hardly beyond our capabilities. And it will become the ultimate reality show and garner millions of advertiser dollars, improving the world economy one fallen leader at a time.

Grievances will be dealt with by the people who have instigated the conflict. In some cases the international equivilent of a gang rumble will be allowed, but neither side may call upon any citizen not personally involved in the dispute. Weapons allowed will be at the discretion of the elected Circle of Citizen Judges.

There will be no negotiation regarding these demands. There will be no more war. If you want to have a dick fight, you will be forced to use your OWN dicks.

Thank you,

the rest of Humanity
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:37 PM
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1. I love the death match idea.
(Side comment: you'd attract more attention to your post if you put "Mel" in your title.)
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:41 PM
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2. Now there's a hell of a statement...
I would've thought all that would be old news by now. :shrug:

Not that I gave a rusty rat's ass in the first place.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:52 PM
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3. I'm in.
I hope the other non-leaders will join us - or join us in not joining in with the wars, anyway.


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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:01 PM
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4. What if they gave a war and nobody came?
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:07 PM
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5. Could you imagine a worldwide citizen movement
rejecting war?

:evilgrin:

Could be interesting.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:30 PM
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6. I'm up for a citizens march on Washington...
and physically removing our entire government and placing them under citizens' arrest and holding each and every one of them without bail until a Citizens Constitutional Court could be established, an investigation conducted and then put each and every member of the United States government on trial.

If you need someone to tell you what is going on, listen to this:

http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096

if you haven't already.

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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 01:53 AM
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9. Well, just praying ain't gonna help, that's for sure.
I wouldn't want what Gore said to be misunderstood, however. ;)
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:06 AM
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7. Universal Soldier -
Donovan - Universal Soldier Lyrics

He's five foot-two, and he's six feet-four,
He
fights with missiles and with spears.
He's all of
thirty-one, and he's only seventeen,
Been a soldier
for a thousand years.

He'a a Catholic, a Hindu,
an Atheist, a Jain,
A Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew.
And he knows he shouldn't kill,
And he knows he
always will,
Kill you for me my friend and me for you.

And he's fighting for Canada,
He's
fighting for France,
He's fighting for the USA,
And he's fighting for the Russians,
And he's
fighting for Japan,
And he thinks we'll put an end to
war this way.

And he's fighting for
Democracy,
He's fighting for the Reds,
He says
it's for the peace of all.
He's the one who must
decide,
Who's to live and who's to die,
And
he never sees the writing on the wall.

But without
him,
How would Hitler have condemned him at Labau?
Without him Caesar would have stood alone,
He's the
one who gives his body
As a weapon of the war,
And
without him all this killing can't go on.

He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame,
His orders come from far away no more,
They come from
here and there and you and me,
And brothers can't you
see,
This is not the way we put the end to war.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 01:46 AM
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8. Two men enter ...
... one man leaves.

Thunderdome. It's the only thing that makes sense anymore.
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:14 AM
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10. Ditto - Where Have All The Leaders Gone
I'll add to your letter, song lyrics I wrote (posted them before..but heck
they go with this thread)

Where Have All The Leaders Gone? (SONG LYRICS)


Beyond the sunset another child smiles
Held in her mother’s arms for a while
Cuddled up with faith her guiding force
She prays to her God for the same things of course;
For leaders to lead us down a path of peace
That her baby will always have enough to eat
That her neighbors get all the help they need
And imprisoned minds will someday be freed

(CHORUS)
We sing for justice in a song
The world in disarray for so long
If right is someone else’s wrong
then who’ll teach us how to get along
With divide and conquer going strong
Where have all the leaders gone?


How many questions did you ask today?
Do you believe what the media has to say?
Did your neighbor lose his job or home?
If the leaders tell him to do it alone…
do you believe he should rebuild on his own?
There’s no money left, sorry it’s gone
Where has all the money flown?

(CHORUS)
We sing for justice in a song
The world in disarray for so long
If right is someone else’s wrong
then who’ll teach us how to get along
With divide and conquer going strong
Where have all the leaders gone?


Does money define the entire earth?
How do we determine what a life is worth
Who makes the call that some live and some die?
A mother asks while she’s doubled over to cry
“Why me, why us, why tell me why!
why did my child have to die!”
This pain is her prison and they still deny
that wars are built on sandstone lies


Leaders who lead us to live in peace
Who build bridges of hope without shaking their fist
Who understand we must all co-exist
and share the resources of this earth
‘Cause no one owned it at its birth
who owns the moon?
who owns the stars?
is that where all the leaders are?
We sing for justice in a song
With the world in disarray this long
and right is always someone’s wrong
who’ll teach us how to get along
with divide and conquer going strong
Where have all the Leaders Gone?

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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:52 AM
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11. I think it's an excellent idea
I'd also like to see the practice applied to greedy CEOs. Surely there is some way to have them fight the workers to see who gets the largest share of profits. It's about time the rest of us stop the fighting and dying for the rich and powerful, and time for us to enjoy a reasonable share of profits, when it's our labor that produces it.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:01 PM
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12. Yay.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 03:03 PM by undergroundpanther
Let the authoritarians kill each other off.

YESSS.
Fuck leaders who play "lets you and him fight" while I rake in the cash and perks and hide...Fuck them all...



Let's play a game of You poor Americans and those Iranians kill each other... while we bet who wins!

by Underground Panther in the Sky, Unknown News

April 14, 2006

Sensitive intelligence

Excerpt: "The Defense Department and the Office of the Vice-President write their own pieces, based on their own ideology. We collect so much stuff that you can find anything you want.” “They see themselves as outsiders, ” a former C.I.A. expert who spent the past decade immersed in Iraqi-exile affairs said of the Special Plans people. He added, There’s a high degree of paranoia. They’ve convinced themselves that they’re on the side of angels, and everybody else in the government is a fool."

Are you like me wondering... why Iran?... why Now?? I thought about this too, and it led me into some disturbing thoughts, especially when it dawned on me Bush seems to be playing a psychological transaction game with Iran. A game to get the Iranian people pissed off and to stir up hate in the United States soldiers.

Why? I think it is to play a BIG game similar to Lets you and him fight, complete with PAID actors too.

Solution to Iran crisis is to support MEK

First I looked to Games People Play Remember that book by David Berne about "transactional analysis? The idea that people "play games" with each other for "emotional payoffs"? Detailed history and description of transactional analysis

The International Transactional Analysis Association


Do you wonder why we have cops going nuts with tasers and microwave pain crowd control devices mounted on Humvees...

Why the military is spending obscene money of OURS to shoot laser beams from space and blow up any target...

Why Bush wants to wiretap anyone he wants... ?

They know what evil they can do, unlike us.


Let's take it further... Isn't the stock market all about economic "transactions"? And isn't a corporate scam or scheme a way to "play a game" with a payoff? Isn't war a big fucking game to these elites acted out in a big theatre? Think about it.

Why would they describe it that way? It's like a crack addict rhapsodizing on how wonderful being high on crack feels like to the addict, who is totally disregarding that the drug is destroying him 'cause for the addict it's such a rush! Ooooh.

Are these "leaders" really, under their masks, all a bunch of arrogant, pampered, addicted, parasitic sadists, isolated in their money palaces, playing a sick game with each other at a distance, through risking other people's lives, sorta like a long-distance psychological circle jerk where the most helpless, poor, confused and innocent people DIE? All while the profit-makers wager on predictions and betting "futures" on the "outcome" of the "war" game. It is that crass.

The games people play can easily become the games leaders of nations play.

I don't agree with the religious focus of the guy who wrote the "games page" I linked to here. His "origins" of the games argument is just the game of his own religion. But I must say his analysis of the games people play and how can apply to nations is dead on. A stopped clock can be right twice a day. If you can admit Bush has conduct disorders or is a full blown sociopath, you might realize sociopaths live for playing and winning GAMES. Everything is a bet or a game to them.

Who are these game players, what are they like?

The sociobiology of sociopathy: an integrated evolutionary model

Excerpt: Sociopaths are "outstanding" members of society in two senses: politically, they command attention because of the inordinate amount of crime they commit, and psychologically, they elicit fascination because most of us cannot fathom the cold, detached way they repeatedly harm and manipulate others...

Underlying a superficial veneer of sociability and charm, sociopaths are characterized by a deficit of the social emotions (love, shame, guilt, empathy, and remorse)_. On the other hand, they are not intellectually handicapped, and are often able to deceive and manipulate others through elaborate scams and ruses including fraud, bigamy, embezzlement, and other/ crimes which rely on the trust and cooperation of others/_/./ In addition to seeking thrill and novelty, sensation-seekers describe "a hedonistic pursuit of pleasure through extroverted activities including social drinking, parties, sex, and gambling", "an aversion to routine activities or work and to dull and boring people", and "a restlessness in an unchanging environment... "

Characterization of the decision-making deficit of patients with ventromedial prefrontal cortex lesions

The founding of America: A government by, for, and of special interests

Antisocial personality, sociopathy, and psychopathy

Excerpt: People who cannot contain their urges to harm (or kill) people repeatedly for no apparent reason are assumed to suffer from some mental illness. However, they may be more cruel than crazy, they may be choosing not to control their urges, they know right from wrong, they know exactly what they're doing, and they are definitely NOT insane, at least according to the consensus of most scholars (Samenow 2004).

In such cases, they usually fall into one of three types that are typically considered aggravating circumstances in addition to their legal guilt -- antisocial personality disorder (APD), sociopath, or psychopath -- none of which are the same as insanity or psychosis. APD is the most common type, afflicting about 4% of the general population. Sociopaths are the second most common type, with the American Psychiatric Association estimating that 3% of all males in our society are sociopaths and Stout (2005) estimating 4% of the population. Psychopaths are rare, found in perhaps 1% of the population.

As many as 1 in 10 children and adolescents may have conduct disorder (Department of Health and Human Services)

If you can "put these things together" you may begin to understand why these terror futures are back with a new makeover. We all know it's the same shiny blood red lipstick on the same ugly murderous pig, sold to us before with waving flags and self-rightious chest-beating by rich fools who do not have to suffer as other "lesser important" people do with their games.

The game begins, the bets are flowing, all eyes that can afford to play are speculating. Their crystal balls held tight, they wager our safety, our sanity, our livelihoods, dreams, children's futures, our very lives, as the roulette gun spins... thrilling the soulless bloodthirsty hedonist thugs playing craps with our lives just as they did countless times before: WW1,2, Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo, Iraq, Iran... on and on.

War is a Racket, by Smedley Butler

Now that John Poindexter has resigned from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and the furor has died down over the quashed proposal for an online market in terrorism futures, consider why it isn’t so far-fetched and might spring up again.

Terrorism futures might just have a future

Designing real terrorism futures, from George Mason University

Team Bush’s terrorism-futures scam takes market fundamentalism to apocalyptic extremes. Imagine, if you will, that there's a gun pointed at Paul Wolfowitz’s head. Now, quickly, place your bets: Will the trigger be pulled within the next minute? How about the next 24 hours? Within the week?

Wagers of sin

How did our society get so tolerant of the so callous? I think someone or a lot of people with conduct disorders thought it might be advantageous to themselves IF society could be DESIGNED, and conditioned that way. Behavioral psychology in the hands of conduct-disordered people has scarred the psyche of a nation, and most people refuse to admit there is damage done in the name of domination. People taught to be so confused do not know what to do about it, in many cases they can't even see it.

The impact of behavioral psychology on combat in the second half of the 20th century has been truly revolutionary. It has been a quiet, subtle revolution, but nonetheless one with profound effects. A healthy, self-aware, democratic society must understand these processes that have been set in play on its streets and among its armed forces. Among government institutions this is being done with great care and safeguards, nevertheless it should trouble and concern a society that this is occurring and (far more so) that it may well be necessary.

Killology Research Group

A behavioral approach to video game design

I feel we are being manipulated by a bunch of very wealthy, ideologically deluded group of juntas made of paranoiac, barely collusional, networked sociopaths currently under some pressures due to some circumstances caused by the games "leaders" of nations, militaries and industries are addicted to playing with each other.

War is losing its novelty. They have to find a way to get that craving met, that addictive rush, so the bets and 'future' speculations got way out of hand.

None of these asshole aristocrats will vigorously rally to the defense of any other node of pigs in their midst, because of their fundamental mutual suspicions each has about the ambitions, avarice, sociopathic 'morality' and ruthless meglomaniacal personalities of each other. If we can permit ourselves to observe it this way, we can begin to see "why Iran"... now, can't we? Put it all together and it makes the mind scream in outrage.

Do you wonder why we have cops going nuts with tasers and microwave pain crowd control devices mounted on Humvees... Why the military is spending obscene money of OURS to shoot laser beams from space and blow up any target... Why Bush wants to wiretap anyone he wants... ? They know what evil they can do, unlike us.

So being cold, calculated gamers, they know the exploited people would not be all so keen to keep playing the evil games these sociopathic rich hedonistic pigs are addicted to anymore. The elitists know that if the common people really KNEW and understood how deeply and for how long, for generations, they are being exploited by the very ignorance, innocence, by the common people's own moral superiority, by denial, pity and fear and their dreams, all of who we are is fodder to be used to keep the people as all-day-suckers locked in a social theatre, acting out scripts written by elites.

Here the 'leaders' "rewrite our reality," and we act it out unawares they are playing the games "leaders" play -- through us -- as in a great big unspoken game of Let's you and him fight...

Lives in the Balance
by Jackson Brown

I've been waiting for something to happen
For a week or a month or a year
With the blood in the ink of the headline
and the sound of the crowd in my ear
You might ask what it takes to remember
When you know that you've seen it before
Where a government lies to her people
And a country is drifting to war

There's a shadow on the faces
Of the men who send the guns
To the wars that are fought in places
Where their business interests run

On the radio talk shows and the TV
You hear one thing again and again
How the U.S.A. stands for freedom
And we come to the aid of a friend
But who are the ones that we call our friends --
These governments killing their own?
Or the people who finally can't take any more
And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone

There are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire

They sell us the President the same way
They sell us our clothes and our cars
They sell us every thing from youth to religion
The same time they sell us our wars
I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear somebody asking them why
They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
But they're never the ones to fight or to die

And there are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire.

Let's stop the game and fire the 'directors' leading this show to hell, before we are all dead... please.

http://unknownnews.org/060414a-Panther.html

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