Why does Israel insist on destroying herself?

[cool user name]

Yes, I know it's a loaded question but one not only posed by myself, but posed by many people more intelligent than I.

Question posed by Israeli, Jew, non-Israeli and non-Jew.

Anyone care to discuss?

[SPKrazy]

1. Well, That's Your Theory

my theory is that they are taking it to the bullies rather than waiting for the bullies to fire rockets on them and do nothing

they are off the leash, finally

[Redstone]

4. I think the OP's idea is that they should just sit there and take it.

Let the other people destroy them, instead of "destroying themselves."

Bet he or she has never been on the receiving end of a 122mm rocket, or been at the scene of a suicide bombing in a city.

Redstone

[cool user name]

7. Strawman.

and irrelevant.

[Redstone]

10. Hey, he said they shouldn't be doing what they're doing.

What's the alternative?

Redstone

[cool user name]

18. Who's he?

[SPKrazy]

9. But, But, Israel Can't Defend Herself

seems to be the prevailing whail lately here

[InaneAnanity]

5. Yea, right

They, the 4th most powerful military in the world, are taking on the bullies armed with sticks and stones.

I wonder who will win??

[SPKrazy]

16. Sticks, Stones, And Rockets Fired Into Civilian Areas

with the INTENT of killing as many civilians as they can

just think if they get better weapons, they could kill more Israelis

would that make it okay to fight back?

that's like waiting until the bad guy fires first before you can respond

[Redstone]

19. "Armed with sticks and stones?" Gimme a fucking break. TEN THOUSAND

fucking ROCKETS is hardly stick and stones.

Ever been on the receiving end of one of those motherfuckers? I have.

Redstone

[Hardrada]

24. Where?

You have aroused my usually dormant curiousity?

[InaneAnanity]

26. Some have rockets

The vast majority just have sticks and stones.

And you fail to mention the ethnic cleansing that has been going on in Palestine and has sparked much of the retaliatory violence among the Arabs.

[cool user name]

6. Well, that seems to be the prevailing propaganda.

[sweetheart]

12. abused abuser cycle

The abused has come full circle to become the tyrant and the wheel of life turns.

[DistressedAmerican]

14. FINALLY! Free To Wound and Kill! YIPEE!

:puke:

[Teaser]

25. except that israel is losing to hezbollah...

...again.

[Egalitariat]

2. Then it's unanimous. Every country in the Middle East wants the same...

thing.

[breakaleg]

3. are they destroying themselves? so far...

it appears they've gotten away with more than any other country would.

It seems there is no one to hold them accountable.

Unless you consider the hatred they are breeding with their neighbours. But still, they have the US backing them up and no one to reign them in.

[Redstone]

8. And of course they have such wonderful neighbors.... rockets,

mortars, suicide bombers...

But of course no outrage on DU about THAT.

Redstone

[InaneAnanity]

11. They've gone against international law for 35 years

Whaddya expect??

[cool user name]

13. Ahh, a reasonable post.

First, let me thank you for a reasonable post.

I have read many Israeli authors describe a feeling of moral decline - and with it, a tendency to self-destruct.

I'll see if I can dig up some old stuff. Uri Avnery comes to mind.

[megatherium]

20. That hatred already existed. For many years, anti-Semitic propaganda

and incitement have been the rule in neighboring Arab countries. E.g., the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are on sale and widely believed. Several years ago, the Blood Libel made an appearance in a state-sanctioned Saudi newspaper.

More to the point: Hezbollah and other groups in the Middle East have always had the stated goal of destroying Israel. They have long used unlawful acts of war ("terrorism") to further their ends. So I can understand why Israel has declared war on Hezbollah. (Whether it is accomplishing anything, in terms of weakening the threat against them, is another matter.)

[breakaleg]

30. all I'm saying is, while it appears they've damaged their public

image, at least as the media is reporting it right now... are they really shooting themselves in the foot, so to speak?

It's one thing for public opinion to not go their way. But there needs to be someone to back up that opinion in order to effect real change.

[megatherium]

31. Actually, I think you're right. But it seems the Israelis have decided

that the damage to public opinion is less of a problem than Hezbollah itself.

[MoseyWalker]

15. It's like a child who has always had an overbearing mother

they never have to take responsiblity or understand the damage they are causing.

Mommy, can I have another 2 billion dollars? Mommy, can I have a few f-16s and a buncha bombs?

Thank you mommy.

Mom, on the other hand, knows perfectly well what havoc she is creating.

[Hatalles]

17. "itself"

See here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1775417&mesg_id=1775417

[TahitiNut]

21. Tradition.

[rustydog]

22. Actually, IF all this is a prelude to armageddon, Israel CAN'T help it

because this is Biblical prophesy coming to life.
God has decided this will occur and there is nothing mere mortals can do to alter the will of god.

[MoseyWalker]

23. Sorry, but

that's the most ignorant post I've read all week, assuming you forgot to point out the sarcasm!

peace

[rustydog]

32. If sarcasm has to be pointed out and highlighted, it loses it's point

[eFriendly]

27. n/t

:puke:

[cool user name]

28. Rabbi Lerner is stating exactly what I originally posted on CNN. n/t

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