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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:13 PM
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Why does Hezbollah fire rockets from the vicinity of UN positions?
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 07:23 PM by oberliner
Anyone have any theories as to why they do this?

Edit to add my theory:

So they can goad Israel into firing towards UN positions.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:14 PM
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1. So The Anti Israel Crowd On DU
has something to complain about
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:15 PM
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5. I like to think of myself as ANTI-WAR....
it has nothing to do with anti-Israel or anti-semite.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:24 PM
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14. Were You Outraged At Hizbollah Before You Became Outraged At
Israel?

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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:32 PM
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19. I wasn't outraged at either until this latest war...
as I said I am against war and the invasion of other countries. Peaceful solutions should be given a chance. Negotiation is done all the time in all situations and could be done over the abduction of two Israeli soldiers. That is why I think there is more to this then that incident. The Bush administration is behind this in some way.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:15 PM
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23. Try Hizbollah Rockets, Wanting To Destroy Israel
as being behind it
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:26 PM
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24. I don't think Hezbollah rockets are going to destroy Israel...
when Israel has all the weapons, tanks and fighter jets they could need. There are both sides to the issue and peaceful negotiations should be given a chance. Israel is not all right and Hezbollah is not all wrong or vice versa. Those are my feelings and I will stick to them. The US government including Bush and Congress has a one sided policy that is not helping matters.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:33 PM
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27. Hizbollah Is A Bully
the only way to deal with bullies is to take it to them

Israel is using their weapons and you are complaining about it

Hizbollah may not destroy Israel with Ketyusha rockets, but it's called terrorism for a reason

I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy having rockets fired at your city with the intention of trying to kill civilians

That's Hizbollah

Bush isn't helping matters, he could try to step in and bring some peaceful solution

I don't know what the answer is, but Israel is surrounded by people that want to wipe it off the map.

Terrorists are not our friends, whether they represent someone fighting right wingers or not.

Their intention is to kill civilians.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:16 PM
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6. No, not complain; it gives them something to ignore or deny.
Hezbollah are the Freedom Fightin' Heroes, remember?

Redstone
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:25 PM
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15. A Lot Like How The PLO Became Something Other Than Terrorists
and Yassir Arafat became a political figure as opposed to a terrorist

as the Chinese proverb says: "may you live in interesting times"
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:27 PM
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16. of course, you must feel very comfortable using your broad brush
to smear the critics of Israel's actions with your racist nonsense.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:15 PM
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2. Because they'd rather not be shot back at?
Seems pretty simple.
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Truthiness Inspector Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:32 PM
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26. So what is Israel to do?
How do you negotiate with psychos?
"Please stop firing weapons from civilian positions."
"Okay, glad you asked, no prob."

Hezbollah does this to inflame opinion against Israel. Period. Self-serving and despicable.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:15 PM
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3. If they do, and the fog of war is very murky on that point, then
it would either be because they think Israel won't hit back, or because they want Israel to hit back in order to further inflame world opinion.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:19 PM
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9. Not murky at all. That information comes right from the UN people
at those posts.

Redstone
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:21 PM
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10. Then I would guess they do for one of the reasons I mentioned above.
It's so refreshing to actually stumble over a fact in this debate.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 08:03 PM
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21. Indeed, taxloss.
'it's so refreshing to actually stumble over a fact in this debate.'
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:01 PM
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22. Happens once in a while. Rarely, but does happen.
Redstone
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:15 PM
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4. 'take the midtown tunnel to queens'
and then ask that question about yourself passing
so nearby the UN building... gosh, what about that
rocket in your pocket, should the israeli's pummel your
hometown with bombs to punish new york for having someone
with a rocket in their pants in to a taxi near the UN building.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:17 PM
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7. why do you spam the same thread topic in DU?
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 07:20 PM by leftchick
And why do we keep seeing HUNDREDS of Innocents KILLED?....




Inaya Haydar, 23, a Lebanese nurse, looks over the debris that had been the homes of her uncles before Israeli missiles and bombs destroyed them, in the southern village of Srifa, Lebanon Tuesday Aug. 1, 2006. Three square blocks of Hayal Jumma neighborhood of Srifa have been levelled. The Lebanese Red Cross and the Civil Defense workers from Tyre, roughly 10 miles (16 kilometers) away, brought in a front-end loader on Tuesday to try to recover bodies that had been left buried in the rubble since the blistering assault more than 10 days ago. Red Cross officials said it's estimated 35 bodies are buried in the ruins of Srifa. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:19 PM
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8. purely strategic move. while I don't agree with it, I can certainly
understand why they would want to act in their own interests.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:22 PM
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11. UN observers are positioned near points of conflict by design
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 07:22 PM by bigtree
If the unrest was somewhere else they'd have to move there, then the result would be the same.

'from the vicinity' doesn't necessarily indicate a deliberate effort to use the UN position to some advantage or some sinister motive, although there may be some who believe it provides cover.

I imagine though, with the UN reporting what they observe, there is little benefit from getting so close as to give their position away. I just don't think this has the significance you are trying to attach to it.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:29 PM
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18. Israeli forces have not been identified by UNIFIL
as firing from the vicinity of UN posts.

Just firing AT them.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:22 PM
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12. From Lou Dobbs
DOBBS: The idea that the United Nations -- in your book, "Inside the Asylum," you have a picture showing side by side Hezbollah flag with that of the United Nations. You make it very clear that you think that there is far too close a relationship between Hezbollah and the United Nations. Is that correct?

BABBIN: Oh, absolutely. And if you look over history and you talk to the people who have been serving on that border on the Israeli side and you talk to the American observers who have been there, you see that not only has the U.N. effectively welcomed Hezbollah into their positions, they have used the same telephones, the same water. I mean, Lou, these guys are sitting there playing cribbage with terrorists for the past 20 years. How can anybody trust them to do anything different?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/01/ldt.01.html (and scroll down)

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:24 PM
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13. Because they are a classic guerilla force that is
vastly out gunned at every step of the way...

They fight the way they can...

ot excusing it, just explaining one reason why they do what they do....
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:28 PM
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17. They're anything but stupid, they use what works for asymmetrical
warfare. They don't have the Army or Air Force of the Super Powers, therefore they must hide in the shadows to survive. To do otherwise would not only be deadly, but incredibly ... STUPID.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:56 PM
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20. Why did the United States
choose to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII, killing thousands of civilians, as well as the fire bombing of Tokyo that may have resulted in up to 100,000 deaths? People, countries, and armies do what they feel they need to do in order to survive, win battles and wars. Our (U.S.) attitude is to do as we say and not as we do, or have done. Hezbollah may be accused and members be brought up on war crimes, but it won't happen to Israel. It will never happen to Bush, as deserving as he may be.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:26 PM
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25. Yes, Israel, with the billions in US funding and its military might,
is clearly the victim here.
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