Israeli troops have entered a hospital in Northern Lebanon ...

[cool user name]

near the Syrian border.

On CNN right now.

[skooooo]

1. To do what?

Why on earth would they enter a hospital?

[Skidmore]

3. On the newsbreak on Dobbs, it was reported that they

checked the papers of several people and removed a couple of staff members and an abducted soldier. Didn't say anymore than that and I've not heard more elsewhere. Who knows?

[Redstone]

4. Well, then, it sounds like they're trying to get their guy back. But the

way things are around here lately, they'll be called imperialistic monsters for doing so.

You just watch.

Redstone

[rockymountaindem]

11. Probably, Redstone

But regardless of what anyone else thinks, I hope the Israeli soldier they (hopefully) rescued is ok, and that no innocent people were killed.

[Renew Deal]

14. They rescued one of the guys?

Is that true?

[Scurrilous]

19. Haaretz claims the IDF ...

..."landed at the hospital in the village of Tel Al-Abayed in an apparent effort to strike a senior Hezbollah official Israel suspected was hospitalized there."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/745276.html

[rockymountaindem]

22. Oh

I thought upthread someone said they had tried to rescue one of their captive soldiers. I guess not, eh?

[uppityperson]

25. if they do, that would be really good.

get a guy back I mean.

[ThomCat]

24. That would be a great defense if it was true.

It's entirely hypothetical, of course. And give the reports that the hospital is burning it looks like Israels intentions were less than benign.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

35. nothing that they are doing is benign. nothing.

it is a fraud, a put up job, a sham, a bloody, deadly waste of innocent lives.

[cool user name]

5. They're saying that there's a battle there now ... n/t

[Renew Deal]

8. They found one of the soldiers?

What do you mean by abducted soldier?

[Skidmore]

13. I'm just repeating what I heard said by a reporter who didn't

elaborate with details. I don't know if it was true or if it is disinformation being floated.

[Renew Deal]

16. That would be pretty major

if it's true.

[leftchick]

7. same reason the US targets hospitals in Iraq

to kill "the terrorists"! The US will give Israel a big slap on the back for this one.

[BeHereNow]

9. To accuse Hezbollah fighters of throwing incubator babies on the floor?

Wouldn't surprise me at all, given the Rendon group type
spin on Hezbollah of late.

BHN

[bvar22]

28. Hiding behind civilians.

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[uppityperson]

6. link to Guardian article

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5988075,00.html
...Hezbollah's chief spokesman said Israeli troops landed near a Baalbek hospital and that fierce fighting raged with guerrilla fighters for more than one hour. Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV reported that fighters were involved in a ``confrontation with an Israeli unit that landed near Al-Hikma Hospital west of Baalbek.''

Some witnesses said that the hospital had been hit in an Israeli airstrike, and was burning.

The attack in Baalbek, the ferocity of other battles Tuesday, the determination of the Israelis to keep fighting and the minimal diplomatic progress toward an immediate cease-fire all indicated the war is more likely to escalate than end soon

[Renew Deal]

12. Talk about going behind enemy lines.

That's balls. It's nowhere near the border.

[uppityperson]

15. maps for you

[Renew Deal]

18. And I bet they didn't fly in over Syria.

That's way past the border.

[BeHereNow]

21. CNN tonight: Israeli Soldier weeps as she recalls atrocities in hospital:

"It was TERRIBLE, (sniff, sniff) the Hezbollah
had ripped the feeding tubes from the elderly patients...
they had dumped the incubator babies on the cold floor of
the hospital to hide their rocket launchers in the blankets...whah..."

This "news" cast brought to you by the Rendon group and
paid for by your tax dollars...

BHN

[Renew Deal]

27. A soldier has already made it back from the hospital?

Where did that info come from? And what about the story about the rescued Israeli soldier?

[BeHereNow]

29. Uh...the post was sarcastic.

Pure speculation of what we might expect from
the corporate spin.
Do you not remember the manufactured
incubator story as spewed to congress on national televison?

BHN

[Renew Deal]

31. I do not.

:shrug:

[BeHereNow]

34. Here you go: link-

http://rwor.org/a/v19/940-49/944/lies.htm

Snip:
"One of the most sensational stories of supposed Iraqi atrocities was the report that Iraqi troops who marched into Kuwait in August 1990 had taken 312 babies out of incubators at a Kuwait City hospital and left them on the floor to die. This story was a key piece in the campaign to paint Iraq as totally evil--and to portray the U.S. war against Iraq as a mission to "rescue" Kuwait and "restore democracy."

But, as John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton recount in their book Toxic Sludge Is Good for You!: Lies, Damn Lies and the Public Relations Industry (Common Courage Press, 1995), the incubator story was a complete hoax. It was cooked up by a public relations firm hired by the reactionary oil kingdom of Kuwait. "

[uppityperson]

30. that is funny, this is a joke, right?

now I am confused. you forgot :sarcasm:

[BeHereNow]

37. See my reply to Bleachers above-

My post is a reference to the bull shit story
about the incubator babies.
I simply expect to hear similar ones from the criminal media
spinning this neocon backed war...
BHN

[ThomCat]

20. So Israel is bombing hospitals.

Destroying more civilian infrastructure just to make sure the survivors have nothing left. Not even a chance to get medical care.

And Israel is also blocking aid from coming in.

But this is all being done in the name of self defense? :eyes:

[cool user name]

23. It's not even in the south ...

Where it is acceptable to kill civilans.

[uppityperson]

10. Australian's Herald Sun link and story

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,19992741-661,00.html
HEZBOLLAH guerrillas have surrounded an Israeli military helicopter crew after they landed near the eastern Lebanese city of Baalbek amid fierce fighting late today, a militia spokesman said.
The Israeli troops ran into a local hospital south of the city and militants encircled the building, the spokesman said, without saying how many Israeli troops were on the ground or if any were injured.

But there was fierce combat between the forces south of the city....

[Scurrilous]

17. IDF commandos conducting raid deep in Lebanon

<snip>

"Witnesses in Baalbek said they saw dozens of IAF helicopters hovering over the city. They said a private hospital in Baalbek, filled with patients and wounded people, was bombed by IAF helicopters late Tuesday. Plumes of burning smoke billowed from the hospital after it was directly hit, they said.

There was no immediate word on casualties.

Hezbollah's chief spokesman told the Associated Press that IDF troops had landed near a Baalbek hospital and that fierce fighting was raging between commandos and guerrilla fighters. "There was really an Israeli landing of troops around the Dar al-Hikma Hospital in Baalbek. Hezbollah fighters engaged Israeli troops in fierce fighting that has been raging on for more than an hour," said Hussein Rahal, Hezbollah's media chief.

Al Jazeera reported that an IDF commando force landed at the hospital in the village of Tel Al-Abayed in an apparent effort to strike a senior Hezbollah official Israel suspected was hospitalized there. According to the report, the hospital was evacuated prior to the start of the IDF operation."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/745276.html

[cool user name]

26. I'm wondering if it's a plan to provoke Syria ..

You know ... a "Clean Break" and all.

:shrug:

[BeHereNow]

32. You're getting warm...

Now connect the dots to Iran keeping the PNAC
diatribes in mind.
BHN

[cool user name]

40. I've followed along for quite some time now.

I have the little pamphlet (I don't know what that's called) that they give out at plays.

All as rehearsed.

[uppityperson]

33. Hezbollah: Israeli Troops Trapped In Baalbek Hospital

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20060801\ACQDJON200608011902DOWJONESDJONLINE001064.htm&
Hezbollah: Israeli Troops Trapped In Baalbek Hospital

Israeli commandos were trapped inside a Baalbek hospital early Wednesday, fighting fierce clashes with guerrilla fighters who surrounded the facility in the eastern Lebanese city, the chief Hezbollah spokesman told The Associated Press.

"A group of Israeli commandos was brought to the hospital by a helicopter. They entered the hospital and are trapped inside as our fighters opened fire on them and fierce fighting is still raging," Hezbollah spokesman Hussein Rahal told AP.

The Israeli military refused to comment. Rahal said Hezbollah guerrillas were using automatic rifles and rocket- propelled grenades.

Rahal dismissed as "untrue" reports that the Israeli commandos managed to snatch some patients from the hospital and spirit them away in helicopters. He said Israel jets were attacking the surrounding guerrilla force with rockets.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

36. we must RAZE this critical care unit in order to save it.

The hospital walls are in the way of our defensive forces getting out after killing people who were in our path.

[BeHereNow]

38. Any incubator babies on the "cold hospital floor" yet? N/t

bhn

[bloom]

41. This whole thing sounds awfully suspicious to me

Get it all on CNN - and try to make the Israeli soldiers look like victims - for propaganda purposes. So what if a few get killed. :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Scurrilous]

39. "Lebanese army officials say special IDF forces fail in attempt ..

... to kidnap senior Hizbullah member from hospital near Baalbek."


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3284959,00.html

[uppityperson]

42. Whole thread reads like that old game "telephone"

why I do not trust anything until I get confirmation, preferably from more than 1 place. Too many wishes, desires, emotions, partial knowledge leading to jumping to conclusions and off we go. So, here we are.

[cool user name]

43. I only typed what was going on my TV.

[uppityperson]

44. thank you for doing that, it is the whole thing and I include myself

we hear bits, read bits, post bits and off it goes! I truly wish this whole mess would stop for a bit even.

[cool user name]

45. Agreed.

:)

[uppityperson]

47. and, by the way

cool user name

[Karenina]

46. Yo, up...

this shit is so far beyond FUBAR that there IS NO PLACE to begin. I gotta get up with the birds and will go to sleep now with my prayer to the universe, "CAN ALL THIS SHIT STOP NOW???"

[uppityperson]

48. night, good dreams

good wish