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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:54 PM
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"Swiftboaters" To Go After John Murtha
Published: August 01, 2006 12:21 am

Vets set sights on Murtha

By SANDRA K. REABUCK
The Tribune-Democrat

.................

“We decided to get back together and put together a new organization to hold John Murtha accountable for what he said,” Bailey said.

Minnick said he and Beam have been discussing for “months and months” Murtha’s stands.

“We’re very tired of lies and distortions from Mr. Murtha on the Iraq war, and it’s time we get the correct information out” about the war, its purposes and the troops, he said.

The main speaker at the October rally is expected to be John O’Neil, a former Navy officer who served on Kerry’s swift boat during the Vietnam War. O’Neil was an active campaigner against Kerry during the 2004 presidential campaign.

more at:
http://www.tribune-democrat.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_213002118.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:56 PM
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1. O'Neil did NOT serve with Kerry on his boat, he was in Vietnam AFTER Kerry
left.

The media has always IGNORED The FACTS to protect the liars.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:36 PM
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11. exactly
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:56 PM
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2. For some reason, I don't think Murtha will be one to take this lying down.
I can't wait to see him kick these SOBs' butts. Murtha doesn't mess around.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:58 PM
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3. I've had more than enough from these pigs.
Can't anyone on this board find some interesting items about these Swiftboaters? Especially John O'Neill. When you have this level of swine, there are lots of skeletons. There are researchers out there who are much more adept at digging than most; get your shovels and get busy. Once a gem is found, I believe it's only right to share it with the rest of the world.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:18 PM
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18. Media KNEW O'Neil lied about not coordinating with Nixon White House
because the plotting showed up on the focking Nixon tapes. If the media was doing its job, they would've played the tape of O'Neil denying he coordinated his efforts with Nixon WH and the tape of Nixon's WH operatives plotting to use O'Neil against Kerry.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:02 PM
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4. idiots
Every sane person knows the Swifties are lying clowns by now. Let em huff and puff. John Murtha is made of bricks.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:24 PM
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5. Called the paper - the reporter got her information from a "website" and
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 01:33 PM by blm
never bothered to check the actual Naval records.

They don't seem to be particularly troubled that they wrote the article with little regard for the truth about who these swiftboaters are and why they work against anyone opposing Bush's policies.

If you are a Penn DUers, you need to contact this paper and demand corrections and a fairer story.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:26 PM
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6. Aren't there poor people in their community that they can spend their time
and money on? It seems like such a sheer waste of resources to spend money only to trash another person.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:26 PM
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7. Swiftboaters' balls, meet Murtha's boot
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 01:36 PM by warrens
If you remember Cheech the Wizard, picture him explaining the notion of time to his assistant by illustrating how time seems to slow to a crawl after you get kicked in the balls...that's my mental picture of what will happen to these pussies...

Edited for stupid typo
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:33 PM
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8. "We've decided to get bac k together."
This isn't a friggin class reunion, why doesn't this lying son of a bitch call himself what he and his Swiftboat grop truly are...Whores.
Pay these guys enough and they will say George Bush took a bullet for them in Nam.

These guys give cheap whores a bad name.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:10 PM
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17. SwiftBoat: the 2006 Tour.
They only tour in even years.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:35 PM
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9. I hope he sues them
and the news media, too. That's the only thing they understand - money.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:35 PM
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10. FReeprs have orgasms over it
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:07 AM
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36. What pricks!!
"I'm in for the rally......not sure it's worth the trip for the announcement....

My Excursion seats 6 + the driver.....comfortably. Heck, we could probably drop in at PSU Altoona to harass my daughter...as an extra added bonus for the day!"
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:37 PM
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12. any veteran who "swiftboats" should have their bank accounts checked
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:38 PM
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13. Isn't this the group who had a guy who called into question Kerry's
medals - and yet he had received a medal for the very incident that Kerry got his, so, if Kerry was lying about the reasons for his medal, then this guy lied, too?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:51 PM
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14. Pretty sure that guy's name was Larry Thurlow - he got caught in
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 02:28 PM by blm
the lies, but the press didn't make too much of it.

The press also ignored one of the swifts who publically regretted his role and said they were lied to - he then supported Kerry and the media muted his confession as if it never happened.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:04 AM
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35. exactly
you have the liars getting caught in their lies, and the MSM looks the other way.

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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:02 PM
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15. I wrote the editor. I added they should practice investigating and
reporting some real news such as who the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth really are and who finances their activities since they were coming to their town to speak out against one of their representatives.

Editors e-mail: cminemyer@tribdem.com - Chip Minemyer
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:30 PM
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19. thankyou.... I hope more do.
,
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:42 PM
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21. Did you tell the editor John O’Neil never served with John Kerry?
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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:47 PM
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23. Yes, I did. Here's the content of my e-mail.
Mr. Minemyer:

Your story : "Vets set sights on Murtha" has incorrect information.

John O'Neil did NOT serve with John Kerry on his swift boat in Viet Nam. He never served one day with John Kerry.

It's a shame when a newspaper continues to publish false information that a reader can debunk in a matter of seconds. Your staff needs to do a much better job at checking the facts.

You should actually do some investigation into who these "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" really are and who finances their activities before they come to your town to speak out against one of your representatives. That would be news that takes effort and skill which are truly lacking in all media today.

Sincerely,

XXXXX XXXX

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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:50 PM
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24. Good job! I call them Smear Boat Vets for Bush
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Truthiness Inspector Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:08 PM
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27. Great letter! n/t
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:07 PM
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16. why can't we have our own swiftboaters going after theirs?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:33 PM
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20. some folks are a workin'
google the keyword murthalied

check out results number two and three ;)
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:49 AM
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39. thanks, i'll do that.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:01 PM
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26. There is a group at work now - The Patriot Project.
.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:49 AM
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40. excellent - nice name too
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:43 PM
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22. Vietnam Veterans for Truth
Didn't they have close to 3 people show up to counter protest Cindy Sheehan in Texas?
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:55 PM
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25. Are these chumps even still credible?
Murtha just needs to stomp a mudhole in Bailey's ass.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:29 PM
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28. The problem is that CORPORATE MEDIA treats them as credible even knowing
that they were thoroughly debunked. By not giving the debunking anywhere near the same coverage as they gave the lies the media has assured their place in the debate.
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4bucksagallon Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:13 AM
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38. The problem is they are well financed by chickenhawks.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:33 PM
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29. Their own medicine.
These organize fraud squads need to be individually subjected to their own medicine.
Start with the dirtiest one and destroy them in the press.
Drive the dogs to suicide, one by one!
It's what should have been done to the Swift boat liars for fraud.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:55 PM
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30. well i think they just picked the wrong guy for their bullshit!!
MURTHA WILL RIP THEM A NEW one

count on it!!

i believe these swift boaters are on the eve of ( self) destruction..with Murtha!!

for some reason i feel like i can hear Murtha saying..make my day!! lol..



Eve of Destruction
Bob Dylan


The eastern world it is explodin',
Violence flarin', bullets loadin',
You're old enough to kill but not for votin',
You don't believe in war, what's that gun you're totin',
And even the Jordan river has bodies floatin',
But you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say?
Can't you feel the fears that I'm feeling today?
If the button is pushed, there's no running away,
There'll be no one to save with the world in a grave,
Take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy,
And you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin',
I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin',
I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation,
Handful of Senators don't pass legislation,
And marches alone can't bring integration,
When human respect is disintegratin',
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin',
And you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Think of all the hate there is in Red China!
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama!
Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space,
But when your return, it's the same old place,
The poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace,
You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace,
Hate your next-door-neighbour, but don't forget to say grace,
And you tell me over and over and over and over again my friend,
you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:00 AM
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31. does anyone know if this is a paper tied to richard mellon scaife??
Mellon Scaife did a number on Teresa Kerry in pittsburg during the campaign..and she went right back at them..who remembers that?? anyone??

fly
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:55 PM
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43. Unfortunately most Pa papers are now in the hands of activist GOPs.
.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:02 AM
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32. I'm fucking tired of these assholes!
Dickless gets 5 deferments, bush goes awol and they conveniently ignore that. But they won't hesitate tear apart the military service of anyone who speaks truth to power. :grr:

I'm so fucking pissed :grr: Going after the service of those who served with distinction isn't just an insult to them, it's an insult to every single one of us that put on a uniform and served our country.

John Kerry, Max Cleland and John Murtha...that's one club I'd be damn proud to be a part of.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:10 AM
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33. Anyone who buys what these assholes are selling
has got to be an idiot.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:16 AM
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34. I think people are starting to realize that these attacks are
bullshit. Sure the base and the talking heads will buy it and join in but I think most of America has had enough of these chickenhawks attacking decorated veterans.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:09 AM
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37. Is Murtha running?
I heard he was retiring.
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:26 AM
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41. "lies and distortions"?
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:51 AM
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42. Here's a DU thread link on the same subject:
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