Does ANY country have the right to bomb their neighbors?

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When they create a situation where a good part of the native population is being defended by those neighbors (instead of by the aggressors who are taking over)?

IOW - do groups have the right to take over other groups and bomb the hell out of them until they give up?

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1. .

[Poppyseedman]

2. I find it amazing that in all these discussions, nobody ever says

Hizbollah stated first by throwing rockets over the border on a regular basis, ever since Israel pulled out of Lebanon.

Anybody want to deny that?

So yes, if my neighbor threw bombs over my fence everyday trying to kill me, I think I would throw a few back.

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4. The are a lot of disputes with neighbors that are similar

The one neighbor encroaches on the land of another. That neighbor does something - the other neighbor does something back. They both try to make it look like the other neighbor started it. We have courts for that. Some system of settling things. The UN should be allowed to play that role.

From my POV - Israel started it. I realize that some people don't like to see it the other way.


As far as Israel proper goes - it was the Palestinians. Israel itself is an encroachment. Also - I think that it's Israel that is now encroaching on Lebanon - not the other way around.

If Israel tried to be good neighbors to the native population - if they tried to share it in a manner that was a good outcome for everybody - I would be more sympathetic. I think that there is a lot more that they could do.

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7. REgardless of

what happened in 1948, and I disagre with you on what did., but that is in the long ago past. The Israelis are not going anywhere. They have the power to prevent the Arabs from kicking them off their land.

All the arabs can do is kill innocent people hoping that they will give up. But Israel has another choice. They can kill the aggressors. And that is what they are doing. Unfortunately, some innocent people are getting ground in to hamburger, but that is the fault of the cowards who hide among them.

Israel has tried to be good neighbors. And got bitch-slapped for their efforts. Unfortunately only the israeli side really wants peace.

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8. Well - I'm not just talking about '48

UN has tried to be "the court" - mediators of the world and Israel and the US are determined to undermine that.


While I think it's one thing to use the power that Israel has - with the help of the US to keep from getting kicked off - it's another thing entirely to keep encroaching on what should be Palestinian territory - whether it's the settlements or the West Bank or Sheba Farms or whatever.

I see it as Israel who has the power to establish peace - if they could control their own Jewish population from essentially terrorizing the Palestinians. I think the Palestinians would be a lot less aggressive if they weren't being terrorized. While it works both ways - Israel IS the one with the resources. I don't see them as the victims. And I don't see them as working for peace.

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9. The thing is

the Arabs attacked Israel and got their butts kicked.

Israel siezed some land to have defensible borders. There never was any 'Palestinian' nation until 1967. Check the histories.

How is Israel terrorizing the Palestinin? Do they launch unprovoked rocket attacks into their cities, perhaps. do they kidnap their citizens for use as hostages? Do they strap bombs on their own children and send them out to kill Palestinians, any Palestinians? I don't think so.

The Palestinians want to kick the Israelis out and kill the ones who remain. (i'm talking about the leaders, of course, the people like Hamas). If anyone is terrorizing the Ps, it is their own leadership, not the Israelis.

You don't see the Israelis working for peace? You are not looking.

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10. And if you don't see the Israelis terrorizing the Palestinians ->

YOU're not looking.

I see where Israel was interested in peace when they were the underdogs - when they got the power to implement it - they didn't want it anymore.

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11. We're gonna have to

agree to disagree.

I don't think we have any conceptions in common.

[Virginia Dare]

6. I think both sides share the blame, you can argue..

what percentage of the blame goes to which side, but neither side is completely innocent of wrong doing.

[Selatius]

3. Hezbollah has no more right to bomb than Israel does.

In both cases, civilian targets and infrastructure have proven too much to be fair game. Whenever Israel targets civilian infrastructure by blowing up power stations, gas stations, army barracks, roads, bridges, seaports, airports, and other civilian infrastructure, they deserve blame for the people who end up as "collateral damage." It should be noted that destroying power stations is a form of collective punishment, which is illegal under the Geneva Convention.

Likewise, Hezbollah deserves blame for firing Katyusha rockets on Israeli cities and towns and for the destruction wrought by their attacks, and they most definitely deserve the blame for killing civilians in the process.

I would like to see Nasrallah and his cronies and Olmert and members of the Israeli armed forces at the top who engineered the assault rot in the Hague prison. In fact, I think it should go all the way down the ladder of responsibility. I want to see the very guerrillas who operate the Katyusha launchers in prison and the IAF pilots who carried out the orders to blow up civilian targets put into prison as well.

Saying you just "followed orders" is no fucking excuse either.

[MemphisTiger]

5. Only if the neighbor has attacked them

basically respond in kind