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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:00 AM
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Should Israel be allowed to have Weapons of Mass Destruction?
I mean, w says that Iran can't have them and Iraq can't have them, why is no one complaining about Israel's nukes, and all the other weapons of mass destruction?

Silly question, I know.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:03 AM
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1. because I think they already possess them
This administration, in its ineptitude, has shown by their actions that if you ALREADY possess WMDs, they don't care. If you WANT to possess them, they'll stop you. So, the message is: get WMDs as quickly as possible so you'll be safe from "regime change".

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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:07 AM
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4. That's always been the way with nukes.
If you got 'em, you get to keep 'em. If you ain't, you can't have them unless you get 'em. Funny old world.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:31 AM
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14. The Latter Point Is The Most Prescient
The real lesson learned by "rogue" regimes, and tinpot dictators all over the world, is that if you don't want the U.S. pounding you someday, don't talk tough, don't talk about getting WMD, don't rattle your saber. Just get the WMD's. Nice going, Silverspoon!
The Professor
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:03 AM
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2. Also,
the USA has them, and Bush is one crazy sob.

Everyone is just too cowed, too fat and rich, or
too poor to do anything about BushInc.

Sue
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:06 AM
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3. Well, Israel's nukes don't breach any treaty obligations because
it's not a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Iran is, AFAIK.

Certainly, Israel should give up its use of white phosphorous. But the vast majority of deaths on both side of this conflict are caused by good ole conventional (even home-made) weapons, so I don't see how such a measure against Israel would be anything other than punitive.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:10 AM
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5. Nothing Silly About It
Israel is NOT a signer of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Their nuclear weapons program has always been secret.

Who knows what other weapons of mass destruction they might possess?

It shows the double standard that the U.S. and Europe have shown towards Israel.

If the Israelis and the United States were serious about peace in the Middle East, nuclear disarmament would be an issue at the top of the list for negotiation (beside Israel obeying UN resolutions 242 and 338).



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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:17 AM
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8. It is also scary because
Israel has shown it's self to be totally out of control with rage.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:11 AM
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6. no and neither should the US
both countries are more likely to use them than anyone else.

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:14 AM
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7. US is the only country ever to have used nuclear weapons
not exactly a proud legacy.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:19 AM
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9. exactly my point
its ironic that we get to pronounce which country can or cannot have nucleur armament...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:30 AM
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13. Bingo n/t
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:21 AM
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10. No, but who's going to take them away?
The problem with a theocracy (and no matter how much they squawk, Israel IS a theocracy in which a small percentage of religious lunatics hold sway over a far larger population of people who largely couldn't care less about religion, sort of like the U.S.) is that if the religious lunatics start getting into an end-days mania, the moral hold that keeps nukes in check goes right out the window.

That's in addition to the near-certainty that is Israel comes to believe that it might be losing a Middle East war, it would have no compunction against turning its neighbors' lands into glass and wiping out millions of innocent people.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:23 AM
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11. Should Pakistan
should India
should France
should the US
should anybody have them?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:27 AM
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12. Actually there are several UN resolutions concerning this
Israel is defying the UN and has for several decades. We go to war with Iraq to enforce the UN resolutions but support Israel in defiance of them :crazy:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:39 AM
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15. We also support
India and Pakistan. Guess what? They too have the bomb. They are also not signatories to the non-proliferation treaty, and there are also UN resolutions regarding those two countries.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:40 AM
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16. Kennedy was the only president against Israel's Nuke program.n/t
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maskedrider Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:07 AM
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17. Silly question indeed
Some differences between Israel and Iran:

1) Israel is democratic.
2) Israel allows women to vote, too.
3) Israel allows women to wear head scarves - or nothing at all!
4) Israel has been invaded four times by its Arab neigbors. Israel has taken land in these and other conflicts, but has always surrendered it, including Lebanon. Whether this is a good policy is open to debate, as when the Arabs re-occupy the land, some fascist organization always starts up with the kidnappings and rocket attacks soon thereafter.
5) Israel has never said any nation should or would be "wiped off the map", despite the fact that they definitely have the means to do so.
6) Homosexuals are not imprisoned or murdered in Israel for being gay.

I wonder when the Democratic Party abandoned its core beliefs, just to get a dig in at the current administration.
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