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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:39 AM
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I don't see worldwide protest about this
"(New York, July 12, 2006) – G8 leaders meeting in St. Petersburg on July 15-17 should firmly tell the Sudanese government that it must immediately accept the deployment of a United Nations force to protect civilians in Darfur, Human Rights Watch said today.

Sudanese President Omar El Bashir has refused to consent to a U.N force in Darfur, despite repeated requests from the U.N Security Council, the African Union and the Arab League. "

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/07/12/sudan13729.htm

and where was the mass protests against the Islamic nazis after 9/11, or when Muslim kills Muslim in Iraq?

no mass protest about Rawandi, and if I recall the world didn't seem too upset when the US embasy was taken over in Iran under Jimmy Carter

Hmmmmmmmmmm


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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:43 AM
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1. I could start posting links to HRW and B'Tselem in regards
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 07:45 AM by jonnyblitz
to Israel. I don't think you really want to go there.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:51 AM
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3. Yeah, I do want to go there, and everywhere hypocricy leads
because this is pure hypocricy, and not because the critisism is leveled at Israel, but because it is ONLY leveled at Israel with such extremism
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:47 AM
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2. Actually, wasn't there a Darfur protest day earlier this year?
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 07:48 AM by marmar
Not nearly enough, admittedly, but there was one. And who wasn't outraged about 9/11? And Muslims, or anyone who was interpreted as being a Muslim, were not only harassed, but more than a few were killed by nothing but revenge-fueled hate post-9-11. What's your motivation with this post?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:54 AM
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4. It is NOT just Dufar, it is Rawandi, Serbia, and so many other places
Nothing is wrong with criticizing Israel, but the lack of passion when criticizing other atrocities speak volumes

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:55 AM
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5. That I can agree with....
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 07:56 AM by marmar
All atrocities need to be loudly and passionately condemned.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:59 AM
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6. and you and I are in complete agreement there
all atrocities, NOT only Israel, but ALL

Unfortunately, that is NOT what is occurring, and many of the dialogs don't even involve constructive dialogs

Yes, a cease fire would be a constructive dialog, but another thread on the attack of the USS Liberty has only one purpose, as a small example

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 08:02 AM
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7. Israel is currently getting a double dose in part because it is
associated with the United States. Anti-American sentiment is running very high these days, and in condemning Israel, the world is also condemning us.

And given that the action in Lebanon was planned with us, that may justified. It's simply less dangerous to criticize Israel than it is to criticize our cabal in some contexts.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 08:09 AM
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8. Some of what you say is true
but is says very little for those who profess an outrage for Israel's actions, but turn their backs on other attrocities, and in some cases even condone it, as in the case of Putin and Dufar


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:29 AM
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14. Political expediency. Putin has all the charm of the KGB
and none of its morals, remember?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 08:17 AM
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9. There were protests and heated discussions of all of the items
that you listed. It was just that the perpetrators of these events weren't violently DEFENDED by a group of people who considered the perpetrators to be above criticism. We have talked about all of these issues and there were world wide mobilizations on most of them - they just didn't involve Israel, that's all...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 08:20 AM
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10. no way. Show me the world wide outrage on those events?
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 08:21 AM by still_one
Other than the normal international committees

In fact, it seems many posts here almost get pleasure at reporting bombings and deaths in Iraq as though they can proudly wear the banner, I told you so.

There is no outrage

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 08:35 AM
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11. There's an immediacy about Israel, and a connection with the West
that makes its crimes feel as though they're ours as well.

Also, we see the effect of Israel's weapons in a way that we don't see the tragedy in Darfur. And many of Israel's weapons, of course, are made in America.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 08:44 AM
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12. Kick for the hypocrites. - n/t
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 08:47 AM
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13. "where was the mass protests against the Islamic nazis after 9/11"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:35 AM
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15. Well yuo know it is just them africams
:sarcams:

This genocide has been in my mind since it started, just as Serbia and central america... but hey a war crime is a war crime is a war crime... don't eexpect some folks to spend DU time on this anytime soon
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