Cut off All Financial and Military Aid to Israel NOW.

[Philosoraptor]

And, do the same with all other nations. STOP selling arms to the world and dealing in death and misery, and stop sending billions in aid to nations that don't deserve it.

Is that asking too much? Is that too radical a notion? Am I just being silly here?

[Behind the Aegis]

1. You are being silly.

[Philosoraptor]

4. thank goodness I don't have to support Israel unconditionally.

like some people seem to do. I have a will of my own

[Behind the Aegis]

6. You have your own will?

It hasn't been co-opted by those that hate Israel?

[Philosoraptor]

8. Let Israel fight it's own battles, with it's own money, not ours.

I'm tired of them.

[Behind the Aegis]

9. I have no doubt that is your position.

We have had this conversation...ethnocentrism rears its ugly head!

On edit: Better yet....PM me. give me your address and I will send you the $6.95 that you spend in taxes on Israel and foreign defense and you can be absolved of all guilt!

[Phrogman]

21. How many years will Israel need to be supported by American money ?

And how many years has Israel been receiving US aid and weaponry already?
About 60 years so far, right?

So, how much longer will they need my money? Is this to be a permanent thing?

Cause I kinda think, that if Israel gets boodles of American taxpayer money to help them defend against attack from their neighbors, than I really doubt they'll anything to diffuse their situation.

It looks to me that the more shit Israel starts, the more money and weapons Washington gives them.

Wheres the incentive for making peace, there ain't one.

This is a good topic, its time to cut these people off for good, the big problem is that Israel's minions have infiltrated the highest levels of the US Government, and no American politician will stand up to them, for to do so is political suicide.

So...where do we go?

[jonnyblitz]

13. yup. they can fund their own ethnic cleansing. nt

[LA lady]

23. I am tired of being used

Maybe they should support us financially:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,16849-1688958,00.html
Mr Netanyahu predicts that within a decade Israel, with a population of about seven million, will be among the world’s ten wealthiest countries. It is in the top 20 already

5 Reasons to Stop US aid to Israel:
http://www.stop-us-military-aid-to-israel.net/
1 Israel Is Illegally Occupying Palestine
2 Israel Systematically Violates the Human Rights of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories
3 Israel is an Apartheid State
4 US Military Aid to Israel Violates US Law
5 US Military Aid to Israel threatens US Security and Global Stability

Read the rest at the site, infuriating.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

26. You're fellow DUers have been polled...

...on this question---nearly 80 percent of respondents are apparently pretty darn silly:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x134550

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. Russia will take over everything.... can't do it. We'd be speaking

Russian and drinking vodka in a heartbeat.

[Behind the Aegis]

3. Or China...

...we could be drinking tea...we'd live longer, but would it be worth it?!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

5. We might actually learn how to live.... or we could have NOT

massacred the native Americans... we could have learned from the EXACTLY how to live, "with the planet", instead of agin' it.

[Behind the Aegis]

7. wouldn't that be sad...

...so many peoples lived from the land...including the Israelites.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

10. I don't see the Chinese launching unlimited wars of aggression

because someone is threatening to take their cable away... or some such fantasy. I'm talking about American aggression and military instigation here, nothing more.

http://www.alternet.org/story/12253/
A U.S. diplomat who had been stationed in the Somali capital of Mogadishu acknowledged, "It's easy to blame us for all this." But, he argued, "This is a sovereign country we're taking about. They have chosen to spend that way, to hurt people and destroy their own economy."

As the United States poured in more than $50 million of arms annually to prop up the Barre regime, there was virtually no assistance offered that would have helped build a self-sustaining economy which could feed Somalia's people. In addition, the United States pushed a structural adjustment program through the International Monetary Fund which severely weakened the local agricultural economy. Combined with the breakdown of the central government, drought conditions and rival militias disrupting food supplies, there was famine on a massive scale, resulting in the deaths of more than 300,000 Somalis, mostly children.

In November 1992, the outgoing Bush administration sent 30,000 U.S. troops, primarily Marines and Army Rangers, to Somalia in what was described as a humanitarian mission to assist in the distribution of relief supplies which were being intercepted by armed militias without reaching the civilian population in need. The United Nations Security Council endorsed the initiative the following month. Many Somalis and some relief organizations were grateful for the American role. Many others expressed skepticism, noting that the famine had actually peaked that summer and the security situation was also improving gradually. At this point, the chaos limiting food shipments was limited to a small area; most areas functioned as relatively peaceful fiefdoms. Most food was getting through and the loss from theft was only slightly higher than elsewhere in Africa. In some cases, U.S. forces essentially dumped food on local markets, hurting indigenous farmers and creating greater food shortages over the longer term. In any case, few Somalis were involved in the decisions during this crucial period.

Most importantly for the United States, large numbers of Somalis saw the American forces as representatives of the government which served as the major Western supporter of the hated former dictatorship. Such an overbearing foreign military presence in a country which had been free from colonial rule for only a little more than three decades led to growing resentment, particularly since these elite combat forces were not trained for such humanitarian missions. (Author and journalist David Halberstam quotes the U.S. Secretary of Defense telling an associate, "We're sending the Rangers to Somalia. We are not going to be able to control them. They are like overtrained pit bulls. No one controls them.") Shootings at U.S. military roadblocks became increasingly commonplace and Somalis witnessed scenes of mostly white American forces harassing and shooting their black countrymen.

[Behind the Aegis]

11. Let's hope we are not Nepal!

[libhill]

28. The sad truth is,

that we Americans are a militaristic, rapacious, greedy nation. We've been dealing death and misery and taking what does not belong to us from the moment of the first settlement at Jamestown. Even the vaunted, allegedly God worshiping and "peaceful" Pilgrims once launched a "preemptive" strike against a neighboring tribe of Native Americans, whom they suspected of a plot to attack their settlement (the tribe was innocent - sound familiar?) This crap has been going on for an awfully long time. Live with the planet? Not fukkin' likely.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

30. The natives had WMDz..... n/t

[libhill]

32. Yup -

got to watch those war clubs - if we don't stop 'em in California, we'll have to stop 'em in Plymouth :)

[Mir]

25. Would that be so bad?

Putin is 1000 times the man that bush is when the latter is dreaming, let alone the real world.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

31. IMHO.... not at all. Of course we would have to demonize

ourselves first so that we would let the Russians take over and show us a different way of life.

[wakeme2008]

12. Agree and Nom

Israel is now just a killing machine run by crazies.

[cali]

17. Look homeward

angel.

[bowens43]

14. I agree completely.

It's time US tax payers stop funding the slaughter of innocent people.

[ThomCat]

15. Agreed. We should not be arming any nations.

[Laotra]

16. Hope you succeed n/t

[mmonk]

18. So you are supporting the only thing America leads

the world in? Sounds great to me.

[partylessinOhio]

19. 1000% agreement!

Stop the arms shipments.
Send troops in to retrieve the bunker buster bombs, nuclear and chemical weapons.
Cut all aid to Israel.

If they want to fight endlessly let them do it on their own without US assistance of any kind.

[Philosoraptor]

20. I wish we could have a nation wide vote on this very issue.

Instead, it is being forced on us, like everything else.

I'd like to see it on the platform this November:

"Do you wish to continue sending Israel 3 billion a year and selling them arms"?

[libhill]

Nice suggestion,

but not realistic. With the insane Fundamentalist religious right running the country, you really think a vote like that would get any where? Israeli aggression is a means to an end for this nut case bastards, they believe it will bring on their fantasy rapture event, and bring Jaysus back.

[libhill]

29. Nice suggestion,

but not realistic. With the insane Fundamentalist religious right running the country, you really think a vote like that would get any where? Israeli aggression is a means to an end for this nut case bastards, they believe it will bring on their fantasy rapture event, and bring Jaysus back.

[nradisic]

22. Agree 100%

This bullshit about every time anyone criticizes Israel for anything and gets immediately called anti semitic is complete BS. It reminds me of the MSM and every time someone criticizes our dear leader, they get slammed. Enough already! Israel has made its own bed. You treat people like shit, you will get treated like shit. If terrorists kill children and Israel kills children what is the difference. NONE. Israel has become the aggressor. The vast majority of the worlds population sees it as such.Israel has violated more UN Security Council resolutions that any other country, all while being protected and militarily supplied by the US. The only way to force peace in the middle east is to stop supplying Israel with aid and weapons. Watch how quickly peace comes.

Jews cannot go on forever doing crazy shit, bombing people and then calling them anti-semitic when they are criticized. That is called insanity.

[spanone]

24. We are the deathmongers. Sadly, your request will be denied.

I agree with you 300 billion percent.

[specimenfred1984]

27. How About Holding People Accountable For War Crimes?

Americans, Israelis, Russians, whoever.

You and I will never see justice until our country demands justice.