AIR RAIDS IN S. LEBANON RESUME!!

[magellan]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1229276,00.html

Lebanon: Air Raids Resume
Updated: 11:44, Monday July 31, 2006

Israel has been carrying out air strikes in southern Lebanon, despite agreeing to suspend such attacks for 48 hours following the deaths of more than 50 people, half of them children, in a bombing raid.

The Israelis said the use of aircraft in the Taibe area was to support ground troops fighting Hizbollah militants.

It was also reported that Hizbollah rockets had been fired at the Israeli town of Kiryat Shemona.

Israel had suspended its air strikes to investigate the tragedy at Qana on Sunday - but reserved the right to react if attacked.

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Dammit, who fired first?

[saigon68]

1. Israel is just one of two terrorist organizations at work here

[Magical]

2. We'll never know...

I am a liar, do you know if I really am, or am I lying ?

[malaise]

3. Israel never stopped a damn thing

Dammit, who fired first?

The Israelis said the use of aircraft in the Taibe area was to support ground troops fighting Hizbollah militants.

[magellan]

6. Honestly, we don't know that

Maybe Hezbollah never stopped? Neither side is known for its restraint or its regard for innocents.

I think Magical is right, we'll probably never know for sure. But that won't stop me from trying to find out.

[malaise]

12. Pazner is on BBC International

spinning like a top in mud. He justified the continuing air strikes, but you are right in that I don't know who fired first although if Israel never stopped firing, that is a moot point.

He said the 48 hours respite was to investigate the Qana incident since it was hit at about midnight and the building came down at 7.00am. That is a fugging lie from all reports and as shown here.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1775845
add.

[magellan]

14. Yeah, I heard him from my office

Hubby was listening to him (and apparently got disgusted, because Pazner's voice suddenly changed to a woman's, lol). All the Israeli talking heads sound just like the ones with BushCo, notice that? They must share scripts. I'm so weary of the grating "we're the victims, but we will win" crap we've been subjected to for 5 LONG years. Israel get no points for originality.

I still can't find who started what, and I don't like to assume. But I can certainly see the speculation that by providing air support for its troops in Taibe, Israel set things off again. If that's the case, they broke the agreement.

[malaise]

20. All the sympathy I once had for the

victims of the Holocaust has been eviscerated by this current barbarism.
This victim pathology is self-perpetuating. Israel is entitled to no more human rights than it allows others. Tell Israel to implement UN Resolution 242 or shut the fugg up. EfuggingNOUGH!!

[FearofFutility]

24. You no longer have sympathy for the victims of the Holocaust?

I do hope you really didn't mean that.

[Nimrod2005]

4. IDF are getting their asses kicked, could not NOT air bomb to help

their soldiers on the ground...They tried.

Last night on CNN, John King was saying that the agreement to stop air bombings really amounted to a cease fire BECAUSE IDF would not send troops in without air cover, I guess they tried and failed, that's why they are violating the agreement.

The world is watching...Peace loving people are weeping.

[EFerrari]

5. I think you're right. They didn't plan this "well" and don't have

enough bodies in there.

Maybe this will go so badly that they won't do it again for a really long time. :(

[Nimrod2005]

7. Syria and Iran must be feeling increasingly confident

About their ability to take Israel (and/or the US) on...Giving what we are watching in both Iraq and Lebanon.

[magellan]

9. Would that more Americans understood this (nt)

[EFerrari]

10. Think so? I'm thinking Syria and Iran must be quaking because

all bets are now off when it comes to the conduct of war. As in, the US now needs no fig leaf for their predations.

On the other hand, once the invasion or attack has occured, time is on their side. It's all very catastrophic thinking. These NeoCons must have an immortality option that the rest of us just don't know about.

[Nimrod2005]

21. I am thinking no Arab army is going to stand up and fight, all strategy

is going to be geared to gorrilla warfare, similar to what we see in both Lebanon and Iraq...Foreign armies will never know where the tunnels are, where the hidden weapons are, or where the next IED or RPG is going to come from...No army big or small can take land and hold it, sit there for days and days...

[EFerrari]

22. I think that's probably right. n/t

[endarkenment]

23. Gorillas are not indigenous to the area. nt.

[spinbaby]

26. They're not?

I heard the gorillas were Arab infantiles with turbines on their heads.

;-)

[malaise]

8. Meanwhile while Condi was snubbed

<snip>
French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy was in Lebanon on Monday to push for an immediate ceasefire, one day after an Israeli raid on the southern Lebanese town of Qana that left 56 dead.
Douste-Blazy was to meet with Lebanese leaders in Beirut, Foreign Ministry officials said.
In an interview published Monday in the French daily Le Figaro, Douste-Blazy said France was "ready to participate" in an international force in Lebanon, but "only after a political agreement, and not before."
He added France was determined "not to enter into the spiral of violence."

Over the weekend, it circulated a draft U.N. resolution among Security Council members that would call for an immediate halt to fighting. The U.S. and the U.K. have also called for a resolution, but one that would deploy an international force without a ceasefire first.

Douste-Blazy said had France's calls for a ceasefire been heeded, Sunday's deadly attack on the Southern Lebanese village of Qana "would not have happened, and human lives would have been saved."
http://www.easybourse.com/Website/dynamic/News.php?NewsID=33313&lang=fra&NewsRubrique=2

[EFerrari]

11. How hard is it now to snub the idiot's mistress?

I remember when it was a cool thing to be an American. And when we had actual, real life, batteries included diplomats.

The whole world believes it knows that we planned this with Israel. And, they're right.

/grammar

[malaise]

13. I need to find out if she is the first

Secretary of State to be snubbed by a 'so called' friendly state. Condi is the quintessence of a fugging foreign policy disaster.

[EFerrari]

15. Their whole government is a disaster. The Republicans worked

for over forty years for these people to fail so miserably. They can't be happy. Barry Goldwater must be twirling in his grave.

As far as diplomacy, I'm surprised we aren't having suicide bombers in our cities, the hatred of America is so great. Remember, what's his name from Jordan (sorry, can't retrieve) did a whole EFFEN TOUR here trying to warn us that this so called policy was engendering hatred. And he came here and very carefully canceled any meeting with BushCo as if to underline his message.

I guess that was too subtle for us. :shrug:

[madrchsod]

17. and reagan

ronny at least tried to settle the 82 disaster by sending habib in to 40 some days of shuttle diplomacy but unknown to both of them someone was telling israel something entirely different...now i wonder who that was??? ......george`s dad? yes and then things went to hell after the massacres at the refuge camps.

[EFerrari]

18. I think you give Raygun and his government too much credit.

Remember, that same group set up death squads all over the world.

Ronald Reagan sanctioned the butchery of brown people for breakfast.

[madrchsod]

16. condo only can do her masters bidding

i know she`s the one on top but i think it`s the old who`s the master and the slave routine

[midnight]

19. They ceased fire temporarily to refuel.

[QuestionAll...]

25. I'm starting to wonder who was really behind the Iraq

war lies.
All this making up shit and doing the opposite of what you say sounds very familar, doesn't it?