Abramoff has been at the CRAWFORD RANCH 4 TIMES!!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Randi just said that Abramoff has been at the Crawford Ranch 4 times. He was part of the Idiot's transition team and has been involved in CABINET meetings TOO!:rofl:

Caught in another LIE!:rofl:

[Catherine Vincent]

1. Republican Lobbyist Jack Abramoff

That's what he is.

[smomfr]

10. Has anyone found photographs

of dumbya and j.off together yet? There has to be some ,that´s about the only thing they´re good at, photo ops.

[SoCalDem]

24. That's why the reporters are not allowed AT the pig farm

They are kept corraled at the neighboring farmette with the bales of hay and the rusted farm stuff..

The real "players" are choppered in and out of the pig-farm while the snewsies interview each other about the virtues of straw vs hay.

[LibDemAlways]

48. Another reason reporters aren't officially allowed on

the property is that the modest farm dwelling most Americans think the chimp holes up in there is, in reality, a 10,000 sq. foot modern mansion. The only photo of it I've found on the internet is an aerial view someone posted here on DU from a mapping site. Can't have the moron freeper types seeing that their cowboy hero lives in a style befitting a movie star.

[SoCalDem]

49. and that he uses geo-thermal while promoting oil for the rest of us

and he probably has solar too..

[FreedomAngel82]

80. I read he and Cheney

have solar power on their houses.

[txindy]

91. Yes, he supposedly does have solar power

Not that he believes in alternative energy, nosirreebob.

[kskiska]

55. 10 miles away!

Not even a neighboring farmette.

[FreedomAngel82]

79. That and his little image

[glitch]

100. That is the whole purpose of the "Western White House"

The real White House has to keep records, since we the people own it.

[Catherine Vincent]

41. Nope.

Republican operatives have scrubbed the itnernet clean of Bush/Abramoff pics!

[malaise]

64. Check Lycos and other search engines

This is what I found at Lycos when I searched for GW and JA. Don't know who that Jack is? There are some priceless photos among the 90 images there.


http://search.lycos.com/default.asp?tab=multi&cat=images&query=George+Bush+and+Jack+Abramoff&p=1

[lfairban]

69. I don't think that is him.

That is a picture of artist Jack Terry:

http://www.exoticfineart.com/terry_about.html

This is Jack Abramoff:



http://www.hillnews.com/news/030404/abramoff.aspx

[malaise]

70. You're right but it's the only Jack picture I could find n/t

[kansan]

97. say cheese!

?x=x&dasite=GettyImages&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=40AB9FBB552190F21013ED538BF804F894D2604A015CF9DF

Here's a good pic of Abramoff.

WASHINGTON, DC - FEB 2: Washington Lobbyists Jack Abramoff, Todd Boulanger, and Michael Scanlon of Greenberg Traurig, LLP February 2, 2002. (Photo by Susana Raab/Aurora/Getty Images)

If the link doesn't work, go to http://creative.gettyimages.com/source/home/home.aspx
and use the search function.

[nofoil]

66. Couldn't find anything

But you could always photoshop these two together:



+

[malaise]

67. I adored that one

:rofl: :rofl:

[SpiralHawk]

2. How embarassing

Can't we just pretend this didn't happen?

People will get the idea that AWOL is part of the Republican culture of corruption

[gordianot]

3. In the 60's we had a term for preppy liars.

"Dick weed"

[OldLeftieLawyer]

15. We called them

dickwads.

Ours sounded filthier, somehow.

[gordianot]

37. I have a mutual acquaintance with * who knew him in the early 70's.

Truth has escaped this Dick Weed/Wad for several decades. He did the weed openly and denied the wad.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

43. I have a feeling

he never quite mastered the wad.

His "twins" are in vitro kids. Nobody talks about it.

He's such a totally dry drunk.

[toymachines]

62. Ha!

I did not know that, very interesting factoid.

[Gabi Hayes]

84. doncha mean.....

'in vitriol?'

[OldLeftieLawyer]

98. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

GOOD ONE!!!!!!!!!!

You'll have FBI agents at your door within the hour.

Nice knowin' ya..........

<running away, screaming>

[MuseRider]

51. Me too

she doesn't say a lot though. A few things but not much.

[madrchsod]

42. ya! a blast from the past!

i remember that term and really sums up what little georgie porgie is--he`s a dickwad

[OldLeftieLawyer]

44. Oldies, but goodies

You know he always was a dickwad.

Cheerleader.

Wuss dickwad.

[Beam Me Up]

46. "Ditch Weed" yer thnkn of; DICK WAD more like

:hippie:

[prescole]

53. We used "dickweed" and "dickwad" both. Ditch weed was something

smokeable that grew on the side of the road...

[Beam Me Up]

57. "Smokable" only if you were desperate.

:hi:

[ktlyon]

99. if ditch weed is hemp, it will make you sick not high

Tarkio Road

If the Pres. smoked it was probably Colombian, not dirt weed from Mexico

[Hamlette]

4. did Bush deny meeting him? n/t

[hwmnbn]

12. Puffy McMoonface is looking into it.....

Will get back to the press corp. ASAP :rofl:

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. Simple Scottie said the idiot didn't know him, has no idea who he is

and he "may" have been at the WH during one of 3 Hanukkah celebrations.:eyes: They lied, of course.

[bullimiami]

18. no he sent simple scotty out to do it for him.

now he will act like "whaaaaatttt??? I never said that..scott must have been mistaken...."

[louis-t]

30. "mis-spoke"

[FreedomAngel82]

83. Only ever chance he could get

[Pacifist Patriot]

88. Three ways to Sunday.

[reality based]

5. Throw 'em all in jail and let the devil sort 'em out

[sui generis]

6. wuzzisname

alabamoff, abrahamoff, no, I don't believe I've met eem personally.

And we thought Burger King was the home of the whopper - looks like the Whitehouse has controlling stock.

[Jeanette in FL]

7. Did she give any sources for that info

I didn't hear where she heard or got that info.

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. No. I didn't catch her source, but she usually posts this stuff on her web

site after the show.

[bettyellen]

39. it's from Capitol Hill Blue

fwiw
:shrug:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. duh, Jack-off was there meeting with Cindy Sheehan, paying her with

tribal funds.
You don't really think that he and the president were - PLOTTING or PLANNING something, do you?
Not our President, no way. He be as innocent as a used baby's diaper.
:sarcasm:

[hwmnbn]

9. Yeah, but the chimp never met him......

He was too busy clearin' brush, ridin' bikes, downin' shots, and doin' lines with Condi.

He had NO TIME for JACK abramOFF.

:rofl: What a lyin' king :rofl:

[kenny blankenship]

31. Like Ken Lay, remember? Bushler claimed to barely know him

[bobbieinok]

63. didn't W use Enron plane in his 2000 campaign???

[kenny blankenship]

74. Yes

but that doesn't prove he knew Ken Lay!
I think he even has crabs genetically traced to ones federal investigators removed from Ken Lay's mansnatch--but that doesn't prove Bush knew him!

[Zan_of_Texas]

92. You mean this?

New York Daily News
Sunday, February 03, 2002

When Dubya and Lay Were as Closeasthis
Ex-CEO a top fund-raiser since early '90s

By BOB PORT

http://www.mostnewyork.com/2002-02-03/News_and_Views/Beyond_the_City/a-140188.asp

In January 2001, it was an Enron corporate jet that carried former President George Bush to his son's inauguration — and to a huge party financed in part by the single biggest gift on record given by the Lays to Bush: $100,000.



And, this?


Records: Bush Campaign Used Enron, Halliburton Jets

Friday, August 02, 2002 5:55 p.m. EDT
http://news.lycos.com/ot_click.asp?loc=searchresult-lycos-pg1&id=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews%2Elycos%2Ecom%2Fnews%2Fforms%2FcatalogSearch%2Easp%3FstoryId%3D481325%26topic%3Denron


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - During the 2000 presidential election recount battle, George W. Bush's campaign used jets owned by several large corporations, including Enron Corp . and Halliburton Co., that are now under federal investigation, according to Internal Revenue Service records and officials.

Republicans said on Friday there was nothing improper about the use of the corporate planes, for which the Bush-Cheney Recount Fund paid more than $13,000 to Enron and $2,400 to Halliburton Co., the company Dick Cheney ran before becoming vice president.

"Our use of planes was in full compliance with federal election law," said Benjamin Ginsberg, a lawyer for the Bush-Cheney recount fund. Republicans said the amount the Bush campaign spent on corporate planes was a tiny fraction of the $13.8 million it paid out during the five-week recount battle. Bush, a Republican, won the White House after the Supreme Court blocked the recount of thousands of disputed Florida ballots.

Democrats said the payments were proof that President Bush and Vice President Cheney were compromised by their close business ties. "The Bush administration literally flew into power on Enron's and Halliburton's private jets," said Bill Buck, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee.

[WhereThereIsFire]

45. Yeah, what was this thing with him and the "cedar"???

I know he claims to do work on his ranchette but recently saw a clip of him at a hospsital where he claimed to have "injured myself" on a uh a uh uh uh "cedar" ... quite a little gash on the forehead. What the heck was that? Usually if I bump into a tree, I don't think about the TYPE of tree it is. The clip for this was posted on a political webcam site and also was shown (though not that part of it) on K.O. recently.

[SpiralHawk]

52. Cedar yields one of the Four Sacred Medicines of Turtle Island

(or North America as folks have called it recently).

In the hands of a skilled Medicine Worker, Cedar brings Clarity -- the spiritual medicine which peels away the layers of untruth and obscuration.

'nuf said.

[Arkansas Granny]

60. Well, then, it obviously wasn't a cedar tree he tangled with.

[SpiralHawk]

71. In this case, Granny, I feel the clarity is offered not to Bush, but

to all who behold him and allow undeerstanding.

The Sacred Plants sing only for those who will listen.

[WhereThereIsFire]

103. Laura probably clonked him over the head again ... with a

cedar lamp???? Or a cedar "goodie" box?

[0007]

11. God damn I hope this is accurate

:woohoo:
:woohoo::woohoo:
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce:
:bounce:
junior's going down and it won't be on Linda Tripp

[one_true_leroy]

50. "junior's going down and it won't be on Linda Tripp"

eeeeeewwwwwwwww!!!!!!!


so much for lunch.

[BlueEyedSon]

13. I believe W doesn't remember.

(insert reference to excessive drinking/mental impairment here)

[Danieljay]

14. I don't doubt it..but I want proof and I want to see it somewhere

besides Randi Rhodes. If its true... it should be sent to every newspaper and media outlet in the country. I hope its true.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

16. .

:popcorn:

[Stevendsmith]

19. Oh, please let it be true! (n/t)

[Pithy Cherub]

20. But But bush doesn't know him, but lets him have free run

at his house and cabinet officers! Oh, this is sooo getting good! :popcorn:

Passing around this story will just bring me great joy! :bounce::rofl:

[autorank]

21. "I'm shocked, shocked that there might be gampling in this place."

:rofl::freak::rofl:
:nuke::nuke::nuke:

[troubleinwinter]

23. Looks like she's using CHB as her source

for the ranch visits. Take that for what you think it's worth.

Does she have a source for "Cabinet meetings"? Or is she mistakenly using the term for what they are calling WH "STAFF meetings"?

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. Did CHB posts this info on their site? Randi hasn't said

where she got the info.

[troubleinwinter]

29. Yes. See this thread with a link to CHB.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x175905

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. That doesn't say Abramoff was at the Ranch 4 times.

All it says is Abramoff had a picture of himself and the IDIOT that was taken at the ranch and autographed by the idiot to Abramoff. Randi must be getting her info elsewhere. I'll check her site later tonight and see if she posts her source for her info.

[troubleinwinter]

38. It does. From the article:

A former DeLay staffer who is cooperating with the investigation into both Abramoff and the disgraced GOP leader’s activities, has told investigators that Abramoff and DeLay visited Bush at his ranch on at least four occasions in 2003 and 2004.

I HATE quoting CHB and giving them hits, because I personally do not regard it as reliable. But that's my opinion. Just trying to determine what source Randi is using, and it certainly hasn't been stated anywhere other than CHBullshit.

[Danieljay]

28. Jeezy Josey....as in Capitol Hill Blue? Surely she hasn't sunk to that...

I hope she has a better source than that. That doesn't cut it among progressives...not to mentions conservatives.

[troubleinwinter]

33. Unfortunately, it looks that way....

Here's the link. http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8013.shtml

[spindrifter]

34. I agree--I think there is a mix-up re Staff Meetings

In yesterday's press conference Snotty said there were a few staff-level conferences that J-*off attended.

[annabanana]

77. She used to "triple source"... I hope she still is.....

I'd love to see this confirmed..

[MissMarple]

26. Did she give a source?

How can they be THAT stupid? This will give Scotty a case of the vapors. Somebody get the laudenum.

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. Nope. Not yet. Her web site address is

www.therandirhodesradioshow.com and it should be posted after her show. I have to leave here in 5 minutes and won't be back until later tonight and can't look it up.

[MissMarple]

59. That link isn't working, here's another.

And thanks for the heads up.

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/

[kenny blankenship]

27. Holy Shit!

Can't wait to hear the denials!

[mopaul]

32. why should i doubt the president? he has honor and integrity

[benburch]

40. I just choked coffee through my nose.

And I blame YOU! :evilgrin:

[Ikonoklast]

56. I agree completely

President Chavez from Venezuela will become a guiding light for all of Central and South America, leading those countries out from under the oppressive economic hegemony of.......wait a minute......what?.....you meant BUSH??

Damn, I just took it for granted you were talking about a REAL president. Sorry.

[Mr_Spock]

47. Holy Shite!!!

Somebody's been a lyin' and he lost the election in 2000.

[UpInArms]

54. Abramoff at a "funders' thank-you" at a ranch near Crawford

http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=2016

excerpt:

The White House couldn’t ignore the broadening scope of McCain’s investigation. Abramoff had raised $300,000 for Bush, been invited to a funders’ thank-you at a ranch near the President’s Crawford ranch (declined because he doesn’t travel on the Jewish Sabbath), served on Bush’s transition team in 2000, and had been to the White House on numerous occasions after Bush was elected. According to a source who has been interviewed by the FBI, Abramoff told tribal clients that he met regularly with Karl Rove, who insisted on meeting outside the White House so Abramoff’s name wouldn’t appear in public records. Norquist was selling casino Indians face time with President Bush for $25,000 a head. Bush’s Secretary of the Interior was changing Indian policy to accommodate Abramoff, at the request of DeLay and Speaker Denny Hastert. The scandal that started on K Street reached south toward Pennsylvania Avenue.

[Gregorian]

61. Oh brother!

What? Did they have a special little shack built out in the back? Good god.

Hey, at least he observes Jewish Sabbath. As though it's going to help. I think god is a wee bit smarter than that.

And I thought today would be a total loss. Nice ending at least...

[MissMarple]

65. This article needs it's own thread. His term life insurance scam is nasty.

Scary and nasty.

".........As previously reported in the Observer, Abramoff planned to purchase term life insurance on Tigua elders and collect the death benefits as they died. It was an imaginative idea by which the deaths of tribal elders would pay for lobbying services for those left behind. It was also more than the Tigua Tribal Council could stomach.

In the summer before his Indian lobbying enterprise collapsed, Abramoff found another niche market to which the evangelical Reed could connect him: dying African-American Christians. If Reed could, as he promised Abramoff in an e-mail, deliver 85,000 Christian voters,” Abramoff must have assumed he could deliver enough dying black Christians to create a new revenue stream. In July 2003, Abramoff e-mailed Reed regarding “Black Churches Insurance program.”

“Per our previous discussion. Let me know how we can move forward to chat with folks who can set this up with African American elders. It can be huge.” Reed replied that it looked interesting and urged that they meet in D.C. as a next step.

A futures market that commodifies the waning lives of elder Black Christians. Who says this isn’t a great country?"

The article also says Abromoff contributed $300,000 to his great friend George.

[malaise]

72. This has got to be the lowest low life in history

Holy fugging shit!!

[JohnyCanuck]

68. Don't these holy rollers take the cake.

Abramoff says he can't travel on the Sabbath, presumably because its against the teachings of his religion. By golly his religious convictions sure didn't get in the way on the other 6 days of the week when he swindled, stole, embezzled, bribed and corrupted along with the best of them, but it seems he figures he's home free in God's books as long as he doesn't travel on the Sabbath. Of course the pretend piety was all for show in the first place. What a hypocritical, corrupt, sorry sack of shit this guy is, in other words, a typical neo-con, wingnutter Republican.

[Ksec]

85. another great catch

How about that way back machine for old news items?

www.internetarchive.org

[Zen Democrat]

58. I'd love to see this picture ....

According to the DeLay insider that CHB quotes: "Abramoff kept a photo of he and Bush, shot at the Crawford ranch, in his office in Washington. The autograph from Bush said 'Tto my great friend Jack.'"

Also CHB says: "Dale Knally, a campaign worker in the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign, recalls a meeting between Bush and Abramoff during a campaign stop in Florida. He put his arm around Abramoff and told us that ‘this man is one of this administration’s greatest friends,’Knally recalls. Knally declined a job in the Bush administration and returned to school after the election and remembers some in the campaign privately calling Abramoff a sleazeball."

[spanone]

73. KICK !!!! & R

[Pacifist Patriot]

89. Sub poena! LOL!

[mom cat]

75. Oooooops! This could be the sinker!

[EFerrari]

76. If we push it. I know we're all tired -- God knows I am -- but

but, but,

how can we make this a thing?
:evilgrin:

Beth

[mom cat]

87. I am sure that you are exhausted, but I think that persistence is the

only way to win. I know that it is uphill, but the repuke house of cards is falling down and the American people are turning away from Bushco.
PS, thanks for all that you do!

[EFerrari]

90. The kettle thanks you.

:)

[FreedomAngel82]

78. When has he not been "caught"?

[cyberpj]

81. did she say how she knows that? where is it in writing? nt

[Ksec]

86. Check post 54

[Ksec]

82. Now.. Thats a good catch

4 times makes him a baldfaced liar. But we knew that.

Its just nice to catch him repeatedly and renew my faith in him being a baldfaced chronic liar

[Nikki Stone 1]

93. Wow! And Bush didn't know him after all this?

Amazing.

:sarcasm:

[Czolgosz]

94. Bush + Puffy McMoonface = "I did not have relations with that lobbyist"

Q But have you been able to more clearly determine whether the President ever met Abramoff at any of these White House --

MR. McCLELLAN: Actually, I talked about this earlier today, maybe you weren't here earlier this morning, but -- when I talked to some of your colleagues.

Q I thought you said he might have been, but I'm just wondering --

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, I said it's possible that they would have met at a holiday reception or some other widely attended gathering. The President does not know him, nor does the President recall ever meeting him.

January 4, 2006 Press Briefing by Scott McClellan <http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/01/20060104-1.html>

[DanCa]

95. Yeah but how many times was he there just to hit on the cattle :D

:rofl:

[katinmn]

96. Part of the transition team !!??!!

He helped set Junior's policies.

Yoo-hoo, media? Congress?

[EFerrari]

101. By the time this is over, Monkey Boy will not know ANYONE

including Laura and Scotty. lol

[catmandu57]

102. Wouldn't the secret service have some kind of records

Their records are not off limits, we found that out with Clinton, surely the ss is not just letting people in to see the pres and not making note of who and when.