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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:11 PM
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Rove blasts journalists' role in politics
Rove blasts journalists' role in politics By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Presidential adviser Karl Rove said Saturday that journalists often criticize political professionals because they want to draw attention away from the "corrosive role" their own coverage plays in politics and government.

"Some decry the professional role of politics, they would like to see it disappear," Rove told graduating students at the George Washington University Graduate School of Political Management. "Some argue political professionals are ruining American politics — trapping candidates in daily competition for the news cycle instead of long-term strategic thinking in the best interest of the country."

But Rove turned that criticism on journalists.

"It's odd to me that most of these critics are journalists and columnists," he said. "Perhaps they don't like sharing the field of play. Perhaps they want to draw attention away from the corrosive role their coverage has played focusing attention on process and not substance."

Rove told about 100 graduates trained to be political operatives that they should respect the instincts of the American voter.

more at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/ap_on_el_ge/rove;_ylt=AgTcDrrvvO7kRkR_MECwRfSs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:12 PM
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1. Except when he needs them to shill for *
Oh wait, that's Faux news -- they have no journalists there.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:18 PM
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10. or to air a Rove news conference on him "finding" a planted listening bug
that he himself planted to discredit the opposing campaign.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:19 PM
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13. Right! I forgot about that.
KKKarl is a Lee Atwater wannabee at dirty tricks.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:12 PM
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2. Hey America....I'M BACK! -- KKKarl Rove
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:14 PM
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3. KARL ROVE IS A TRAITOR
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:14 PM
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4. "...focusing attention on process and not substance."
Translation: The end justifies any means.

As long as journalists continue to do exactly what it is that Karl so despises, I will hold a glimmer of hope for my country.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:14 PM
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5. Hey Karl! Ever hear of the First Amendment?
The Nazis didn't like freedom of the Press, speech, religion or the right to assemble, either.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:14 PM
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6. Once the press isn't marching to PNAC's song,they become the subject
of their hate musings just like the rest of us. tsk tsk tsk.
Now they know how the rest of us feel. There are no "permanent" friends among the BushCo/PNAC folks.
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Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:17 PM
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7. I blast Rove role in journalism! n/t
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:17 PM
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8. GIve me a break. Who has had it easier than Rove, Bush & Cheney?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:18 PM
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9. Respect the instincts of the American voter?
He must not have heard about the voting machines.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:19 PM
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11. This is just assinine
Like they don't control 99% of the compliant media as it is.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:19 PM
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12. fuck rove..sorry but i am dang sick & tired of that bastards crap!..n/t
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:23 PM
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15. Well
You DID hear that Karl Rove likes sexually abusing small barnyard animals, didn't you? (Wait! That's a horribly partisan rumor to start! Kinda Rovian, eh?)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 05:48 PM
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28. no dang it i missed that ..shhh ..but i heard...
he covers for little lord pissy pants with gannon/guckert...

but keep that to yourself...

and the secret service!!

fly
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:22 PM
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14. the corrosive role their coverage has played focusing attention on process
yeah, gotta hate it when journalists like Palast uncover vote fraud.

And news to Karl, obviously, but critics, by definition, usually are journalists and columnists; and columnists and journalists are paid to criticise. I guess they don't teach that in the propaganda 101 course he took to get certified for his job.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:24 PM
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16. Liar, Cheat, and Thieve....
....Our FOUNDERS suggested that all "politicians should serve (briefly) and then return home...In place of "corrosive role" insert "only existing oversight" and in place of "concentrating on "process and not substance" insert "eyes on the ball, not what we tell you the outcome means"...If the "best interests of the country" means ignoring the American worker, a social security net, the freedoms of the original constitution and more years of these lying assholes they may as well come and take me now-after all,in custody I will benifit some of their friends....
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:25 PM
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17. Why would GW let this criminal traitor speak to their students?
:wtf:

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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 05:01 PM
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24. Silly, why would he do such a thing?
Silly One.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 05:23 PM
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25. By "GW" I meant George Washington University!
Sorry that wasn't clear....
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:28 PM
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18. Robert McChesny on Goebbels press model
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWnOK48nUk&mode=related&search=

watch the video or here.

Or from an article written by Robert McChesny: http://www.ratical.org/co-globalize/RMmythCB.html
>>>>>snip
I would tell them exactly who to designate as architect of the modern "free" press: Josef Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda in Nazi Germany.

Why Goebbels? Well, consider three of his most important maxims for Nazi media.


First,
Goebbels argued that the Nazi news media should be such that the more of it Germans consumed, the less they would know, and the more likely they would be to support Nazi policies unconditionally. Unfortunately this seems to be exactly the case with much of our contemporary corporate media fare. The most striking recent example, perhaps, was the survey from the Persian Gulf War that showed the more TV news coverage of the war people watched, the less they knew about the war, and the more they supported government policy.


Second,
Goebbels' first edict to the German film industry was to avoid political themes and to concentrate on light entertainment and escapist fare. The current system seems to have accomplished that, too. The corporate film industry has virtually eliminated social commentary and serious drama from its output, and devotes the bulk of its resources to light comedy and action fare. Instead of The Grapes of Wrath or Citizen Kane we get Dumb and Dumber. Dr. Goebbels would be impressed.


Third,
Goebbels asserted that the media system should give the outward appearance of diversity, but underneath there should be a clear sameness to the messages being conveyed. What better describes a system with the potential for hundreds of cable channels, but which in fact airs only a handful of commercially marinated genres, and where each of the media giants apes the successful output of its competitors?

Now I admit that dwelling on Josef Goebbels as the appropriate symbol for contemporary media is not entirely fair. In the interest of accuracy, the corporate media giants and journalism schools should probably reserve a place over their entryways next for the words of another, even more famous German: the Führer himself, Adolf Hitler.>>>>>snip
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:29 PM
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19. I love it when they whine.
Waaaaa the press is bad. Waaaaaa you shouldn't know we spy on you.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:32 PM
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20. Why hasn't this scumbag been tried for wartime treason?
Edited on Sat Jul-29-06 04:33 PM by kurth
He could do the world a favor by sticking his head in the toilet.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:52 PM
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21. That two-bit treasonous thug is insinuating that he is a professional.
He freakin' never even trained for anything professional beyond high school. He just followed another thug around and did his dirty stuff for him until he could be "made."
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:58 PM
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22. Fascist design: attack & influence the media,
the justice system (re.Bush detainee bill of US citizens), propaganda onslaught, convolution/fogging of facts and figures, advance bigotry/religious/ethnic, control congressional representative bodies, use of Constitutional amendments etc etc. The path to fascism and control.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 05:00 PM
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23. and yet creating fake news stories and paying "journalists" is ok?
not that I have to say it, but this guy is a complete ass.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 05:30 PM
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26. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blow it out your ass karl.

you don't mind it when the media prints your propaganda, so shut the fuck up.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 05:47 PM
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27. A person with no educational credentials talking to a graduating class?
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