What I noticed about Condi. She looks really shaken to me.

[smacky44]

Like she finally realizes that this administration with her help has really fucked up this country and most of rest of the world. She looks as though she is on "robot status." Resigned. Just going through the motions. If I am wrong about this, she must never have taken a look at the footage coming out of Lebanon. If she has and still believes that is the right thing to do to continue to support this barbarism by Israel, then she is a heartless individual with the mind of a psychopath.

[n2doc]

1. I wouldn't give her that much credit

She probably just wants to get back to shoe buying.

[ixion]

3. exaclty. I'd chalk it up to pouting about having to work

rather than being able to be out shopping.

[itzamirakul]

70. I think, like the OP, that she has awakened to realize what a disaster

she and the administration have led the nation into. IOW, it has what was once on paper has become a reality and what makes it so bad is that she actually has no real say-so in the entire affair. It is far more horrible than any of them could have imagined, because they did not take in to account the fact that someday (now) these insurgent groups would be able to take on the greatest powers in the world and prevent those powers from defeating them.

Believe me, every word that comes out of Condi's mouth has been scripted by that Vast Right Wing Cabal that Hillary talked about nearly a decade ago. Call them PNACers, or Neocons, or the Lobby, but it is this group, closely aligned with the hardline Zionists in the ME, who are speaking through Condi's (and by extention through America's) mouth. She has absolutely nothing that she can say on her own. In this entire situation, she has probably met with the key players and discussed things but the final decision would be theirs and not necessarily in the best interests of the United States.

Condi is a brilliant woman, I will give her credit for that, but she is paying the personal price for playing their global dominance game.

It is this same cabal that now owns our Legislature, seen clearly this past week when they all voted lockstep to approve the Israeli position. And to prevent a major Arab politician from speaking.
If you don't think our Democratic politicians are owned by the RW now, just go back over that vote.

[Baselinereality]

25. I'm So Tired Of Women Cabinet Members Being Accused Of...

being addicted to shopping.

Madeline Albright put up with the same criticism.

Condi Rice's close don't even look all that fabulous, so I wish would could agree that she's not a shopaholic. I think she gets her clothes at the same place Prime Miniser Merkel gets hers. "Heads of State R Us."

I wish we could just focus on her being a crazy neo-con. No one ever says one freakin' word about Donald Rumsfeld's shopping habits.

[mwb970]

33. I think the reference is to a specific incident.

During Katrina, Rice was in New York buying $1000 shoes and going to see "Spamalot". The feeling was that she was going on with her privileged life - including shopping, Imelda-style - while the less fortunate suffered.

[cmd]

34. Yep, the shoe incident will not be forgotten

It has nothing to do with women and shopping. I equate the Katrina response with Bush playing with a guitar and Condi buying shoes. Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

[Baselinereality]

36. If You Think It Doesn't Have Anything To Do With

"women and shopping" then, congratualations, you're fully indoctrinated. It has EVERYTHING to do with the "women and shopping" myth. If not, you wouldn't be talking about it.

But I'm a little testy today.

I probably should stop posting until I promise to have a sense of humor about things other than pit bulls mauling elderly women.

[cmd]

47. Think in terms of Katrina

Bush :: guitar as Condi :: _____?_______

When someone says Condi, I do not think of shoes. When someone says Condi and Katrina, the shoes pop out. Sorry, but I'm not indoctrinated. I'm only talking about it today because it is the topic of the post.

[The Count]

61. heck of a job Brownie was just as obsessed with his clothing. It's a

priviledge, not a gender thing. And may I add, putting W in blue shirts on his photo ops where he faked concern for Katrina is in the same boat.
Point was - Condi - like the others - doesn't give a s* for anyone else.

[Baselinereality]

35. Yeah, I Know.

But Spam-a-lot WAS funny! I totally would have skipped Katrina, too.

My point is just that it's only WOMEN that get criticized for this. As if men don't shop. It's just, you know, sexist and stupid.

But I should just lie back and enjoy it, like all women.

(And I can't believe that I spelled "clothes" "c-l-o-s-e" in my earlier post. That's just stoopid.

[sgxnk]

44. exactly

i also see far more posts about her APPEARANCE

and i see the same thing about coulter

this is sexist, whether one admits it or not

posts about these women CONSTANTLY reference their appearance

one even said coulter looks like a succubus

who CARES?

michael moore is fat. carville is bald. dennis miller looks weird with a beard. tucker gave up the bowtie. ron reagan jr looks like a dork cause he always wears turtlenecks, etc.

there, got that out of the way

it's silly. and it's obviously sexist, that women's appearance is constantly used as a source of attack, but not men's

that's an interesting double standard

plus ca change and all that

[Quantess]

69. You're right. Especially on TV,

appearance is the #1 important thing about women, but men get away with being old, ugly, and fat.

Case in point: Neil Cavuto
He's the ugliest thing to grace the screen since....since....
Help me out people. There's gotta be someone uglier and more repellent than Neil Cavuto. I just can't think of anyone.

[Flying Dream Blues]

71. Beano Cook? Not the same genre, but he's on TV. Scary! nt

[Quantess]

72. I thought of one. A woman, too.

Rosie O'Donnell. About par with Neil Cavuto, in terms of looks & voice.

I've never seen the Beano cook. Well, at least he's doing something about his gas, LOL.

[Cha]

57. conjob-shaken..now there's

an image!

[REP]

2. Looks Like She's Out of Her Depth and Knows It

Thought she could get by faking it all these years - then gets caught not being able to speak Russian very well after all, and can't negotiate worth a damn. No surprise to anyone very familiar with her record; she was loathed at Stanford.

[Divernan]

5. Tell us more. What was she like at Stanford?

nt

[SupplyConcerns]

40. I've heard from someone who was there for her graduate studies

That she was known as being incompetent.

[Warpy]

24. I'd always thought her tenure at Stanford

was the one success she had in her resume. Other than that, she's been an "expert" who has published very little to prove her expertise and has been shuffled from one protected position within the fascist shadow government to the next until Stupid got in and glorified her far beyond her abilities.

It's interesting to know she was just as incompetent there.

I gues there are never any consequences of incompetence to be faced by anyone who spouts the party line.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

4. She does have that "deer in the headlights"

look recently.

I truly don't believe she is a psychopath. But this is some scary stuff. I wouldn't want it on my soul.

[KharmaTrain]

6. You Just Noticed? She's Bambi In The Headlights

and has been since Day One. She's a "cold warrior" that never left the 1950s and then transfered into the Neo-Con game...and now the clock is striking midnight. Unlike the past where these blowhards would claim if we did this or that...now the world has called these assholes on their bullshit and the person who gets the biggest amount of it, unfiltered, is Condi...or anyone who serves as the top "diplomat" of this country.

Powell played the toadie...he was a "team" player who never completely drank the kool-aid and thus never was totally trusted by Chenney and Rove. Instead, they set him up and used him as a prop, until he could no longer take it. In Condi, they thought they had the ultimate prop...she could be programmed to play "good cop" while Chenney sat in his undisclosed location and undid anything positive she said.

Resigned? Going through the motions? Not from what I'm seeing. She's hiding...avoiding...tap dancing. The State Department...which had some autonomy over the Executive and could play negotiator or mediator...is gone. Condi has few options and fewer friends. And the more she gets isolated, the harsher the rhetoric and the more dangerous this regime gets.

I keep hearing her harp about Syria and Iran being the problem...but her answer isn't flying to thse countries or opening up some type of dialogue, but to sit back and let Chenney and his cabal rattle sabres...and play big shots. What Rice is realizing is what many of us have seen for a long time...every time this regime makes a move it's the wrong one, and the world is calling them on their bullshit. She's just not enjoying being on the front lines. Sucks to be her.

[leftchick]

28. she is doing what she has always done... SPIN!

"who could have imagined... <fill in the blank>"

She has always spun for her neocon masters and spun poorly.

[KharmaTrain]

52. Job One In This Regime...Spin

This is Chenney's show...maybe Rummy's, too...anyone else either plays toadie or gets steamrolled. Condi has always been second-class in this world and it shows in how she has such low self-esteem when she's around other leaders. Her credit isn't her abilities to know the world and those who make it spin, just to cater to her political masters and handle their spin. Or should I say circle jerk.

:hi:

[leftchick]

56. circle jerk works!

well said KT!

:hi:

[unblock]

7. a thought about all the "condi for president" talk

obviously, there's NO WAY IN HELL the banana republican party are nominating a black woman for president :rofl:

i always thought that all the banana republican talk about what a great president she'd make was a typical smokecreeen for their sexism and racism, and certainly that has a lot to do with why she's as visible as she is.

but maybe there's another reason -- perhaps she's expressed some doubts, some thoughts about leaving, or maybe they're just worried she might go. so the "condi for president" crap is all about flattering her in public so she thinks she has a greater reason to stick with the program, that there's a payoff for her greater than anything she could actually acheive working in this ridiculous administration.

:shrug:

[goclark]

38. Condi is NOT Black, she is wearing Black makeup

And if the RepubliCONS thought that the only way they could stay in power would be through Condi, she would be their next GW~

Condi never owned up to being Black, she said she never met prejudice in her life.

They know that she is so "White" she could never turn Black.
She didn't even know how to act in a BLACK church during Katrina.

goclark
A BLACK LADY and PROUD to be ONE :)

[MzShellG]

42. Amen...nt

[treestar]

43. Condi is so strange

She is just a strange person, regardless of her race. Just shows that no one should be judged on the color of their skin, but on the content of her character. And Condi's character shows her to be just, well, strange. She represents neither blacks, nor women, nor black women. She just represents weird people. Along with her "husband" Dubya and his wife Laura and all the other weirdos who somehow have ended up in charge in the US.

[jaysunb]

53. In the words of Ray Charles..

Uh Huh ....

[rodeodance]

8. I do not think she nor the WH has a clue--they are using the same language

of "democracy", terrorism, linking the problem with Irag, etc.

they do not know what else to do. Lebanon/ISrael has blown up in their faces and they are clueless. they only talk in terms of vague broad outcomes. Bush let Tony do most of the talking yesterday--when he repeated old tunes.

[smacky44]

9. It's even more scary these are the people thier citizens elected to office

and refuse to remove (Bush/Cheney that is).

[madokie]

30. and tony was having to clarify what chucklenuts was saying or doing

if he could be embarrassed, * would be by his lack of a grasp of the issues so evident yesterday

[pooja]

10. you may or may not a agree... but when you have a

diplomatic position, you better be the best poker player in the world with the extra Ace up your sleeve. Condi doesn't have that. She's like the doll thrown into the little girl's teaparty to sit there and do what the girl imagines her to do. She is in over her head because she only has Bush facts and when you are dealing with a more informed world that doesn't just smile and believe, its hard to sell. Also, the world doesn't want syria and iran coming to full arms. They want peace.

[KoKo]

11. She's "in over her head" but seems to have

bought the NeoCon's viewpoint. I kept reading that the NeoCons had been pushed aside with Cheney but I'm thinking, as typical with these folks, that whatever they say is the opposite of what's going on. NeoCons leak to WaPo and NYT's and elsewhere that Cheney is taking a back seat to Bush and that Condi is moderating their influence and then WHAM ..Condi goes and promotes exactly what the NeoCons have been promoting all along and Bush and Blair afraid their butts aren't being covered for the "illegal war" and "war crimes" go along still hoping the Corporatists and NeoCons will save their butts.

It's a nightmare...but I have no respect for her. She's a tool and has gone along and participated in the murder of innocents. "Little Star" has crashed and burned. If Americans still give her high poll numbers then I think we are a brain dead nation who are now immune to violence and crimes against humanity.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

12. I don't think she needs to see Beirut video

All she needs to do is see a mirror and realize that all the PR, all the spin and all the MSM adoration and love couldn't PNACs back together again.
I can imagine that when she counselled Bush to ignore Colin Powell, knowing in her heart that she could do that job better - after all, he made it look simple! - when she finally got her dream job, she never realized all the responsibility that went with.

She is inept. She is shallow. She is incredibly fragile. Now that the cows are jumping the moon and coming home to roost like vultures (I know there is a mixed metaphor in there somewhere) it has finally hit her just how protected she has been. She has been coddled, she has been promoted and she has been primped and prepped for this job, very often ahead of truly qualified individuals, BECAUSE she was an investment project. Big Oil named a tanker after her. Why? Out of respect? Hardly. She was a long term investment - a black female scholar with "practical experience". By Big Oil's way of thinking, it was a three-fer. A black, a female, a scholar with practical experience. She could easily be sold to anyone.

WHy do you think she was told to seek "Soviet Studies" for her PhD? Because when she started, the cold war was still going on. It was intended for her to be the "foreign power expert" when the time came to promote her into a position of power, then pull the strings just like a puppet.
Pity for the best laid plans of rice and men, though. Reality broke through. The USSR fell apart, and her so-called expertise was worthless. Less than worthless, really. So much for those vaunted russian skills, too. But, if you check back to 2000-2002, her speeches demanded that we build Star Wars even though the USSR was dead and burried. Why? What threat existed with a flightplan over Alaska? None. Again, why? Because her puppet masters demanded it of her.

And who was personally in charge of advising the president of real threats to our country? She was. On whose watch did the CIA warn of domestic attacks by foreign terra-ists? Hers. And who saw the warnings and dismissed them as historical? She did. Any male, not protected, not the product of so much long term planning and investment would have been canned on 9/12. As she should have been. But she was still too useful, and the investment in her future (and their own profits) was huge. Heck, there was a war to start and profit from.

Well, the shit has hit the fan, and those puppet strings no longer can tell her what to do. For the first time in her life, it is HER responsibility and her job. She is lost. She knows deep inside that she is way too far out of her league to be effective. She is scared at the damage that her advice, her insights and her decisions have caused. She is a scared little girl who, perhaps for the first time in her life, realizes that this is no game. And that she has no protection from outside.

If she had not been the cause or a major aid in furthering the horrific policies of this administration, I might even feel sorry for her. But, the damage is too great. She has caused more unnecessary and avoidabel death and destruction than any other Secretary of State. I hope she is at least proud of that.

[malaise]

16. Brilliant summary

of this war criminal bitch.

[smacky44]

17. Your point about her push for Star Wars is a good one. You are right

just spewing the "talking points." Problem is with all of them, the director and producer of these plots is a little off in their timing.

[goclark]

51. A poster here said her Russian was rusty nt

They linked to an article that said she needed an interpreter with her in Russia and that she made big time boo boos with the language.

Oh, remember when Jacqui Kennedy went to France! What a class act that was for America.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

54. a friend used to work with State

as a russian - english interpretor.

He was there for the US side (with several others - it was a large entourage) for her her first SecState visit.

The Russkies believed the hype about her fluency, and tried their best to make her welcome. They had even planned a TV and radio show and tell in russian. All those carefully scheduled plans fell apart within minutes. She did not even understand "hello, how was your flight, and are you tired" much less any more diplomatic - oriented discussion.

The first meeting was a fiasco and to top it off, she was shrill, demanding and petulant, as though it was their fault that her russian skills were too poor.

[earth mom]

65. Notice how she is only worried about herself-Not the HELL she has caused!

I have no sympathy for her-EVER! :grr:

[Flying Dream Blues]

74. I think you should post this as a separate thread. It's a great

analysis that I think everyone should read. It connects the dots better than anything else I've read about Mrs Bu--I mean, Condi. Bought by BFEE, sold to the rest of us.

[radfringe]

13. she's in over her head

all the slogans, cliches, soundbites and spin in the world won't be able to solve the mess...

flag waving and patriotic music complete with troops for a background isn't selling anymore

stay the course doesn't work when you've got the wrong road map


and a guide dog isn't much use either in this mess

[Warren Stupidity]

14. She just looks odd.

Dresses odd, skirts too short for a Secretary of State, holds herself in strange poses. Head too big, bug eyed. And what is up with giving piano recitals like she is some sort of school girl? I vote for psychopath.

[GOPEC]

15. She was shaken, but...

It wasn't out of concern for the situation in the Middle East. She had a big recital looming at the South Asia summit and she couldn't get her good piano on the plane to practice en route. The impromptu stop in the Middle East really cut into her rehearsal time.

[BlueManDude]

18. yeah but her shoes are fab-u-lous!!! n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

21. Most of her shoes will clash with that Ball and Chain she might...

end up wearing, for her part in the crimes against humanity that the PNAC have committed.

[Hissyspit]

19. Constant lying and having to keep up the appearance of the lies

will ultimately take a physical toll.

[CJCRANE]

20. She's a neocon stooge

and always has been. Just look at what she said and her demeanor in front of the 9/11 Commission and now. She's the same. She's paid
to parrot empty high-sounding nonsense and she knows it. But it must be worth it for her in the long run, whether she's motivated by bringing on the Rapture, killing arabs, or the billion-dollar kickbacks for her buddies (or all three, we'll probably never know).

[madmunchie]

60. She is the stooge in the cabinet of stooges that work in the Executive

Branch of stooges.

They get their marching orders from elsewhere. They are all out their doing the banker's bidding.

She is just realizing that being a stooge isn't all that it is cracked up to be...afterall,

IT IS HARD WORK!!!!!!!

[ThomWV]

22. Its Because Laura Caught Her With George

Bumpin' uglies .....

[glitch]

50. That would humanize both of them, therefore I don't believe it.

But bumpin' uglies... :rofl:

[pretzel4gore]

23. she hyperventilates ALOT!

when 911 happened, rice fled to a bathroom, locked the door, then sucked in air, exhaled, sucked, exhaled again etc iow hyperventilated.....she does it alot. when the sheer banality of the evil her job entails strikes her, her roots cry out, they must. i cannot think that an academic, like rice, would have gotten where she is if she wasn't a black woman, so she knowingly sold out; in a way, it's very cruel. too bad she wouldn't do a "'Network' anchor" and tell the pigmedia what she knows, force it into panic mode, and bring the whole house of cards down on ther busheviks....she'd save her soul, maybe save the usa, but - they might have her wired (with something to knock her out if she tries to stray off the reserve)
believe it oe not, but the busheviks are terrified: they are in way over their heads, and their very lives depend upon creating chaos, vandalising society until they can escape notice in the upheaval.
good on condi, good on them

[ChairmanAgnostic]

26. she is an academic like Coulter is a political scientist

the word Faux is missing.

[Baselinereality]

29. She Didn't SELL OUT Anymore Than Rumsfeld Did.

She believes the crap being spewed by Bush, pure and simple.

She's been talking recently about a "new" Middle East and how we "will prevail" in the shaping of it. Is anyone paying attention to this? Does anyone realize what Bush & Co. are suggesting? Because it's nothing short of all out regional war.

Please stop accusing the black woman of "selling out" unless you're going to accuse a few aged white guys of the same thing.

[pretzel4gore]

31. well, black women aint whores

which is typical of old white pols, in too many cases. all i meant was that condi, looking upon the world, knew she had an asset in her colour, and used it, which is not to say her real assets never got used too, but....my criticism was of the busheviks, the racist underpinning of white america etc....condi rice ventured into territory where she knew she was being used, against her own.
as far as the busheviks are concerned 'contempt is to the contemptable, as the air is to birds or sea to the fish' as William Blake once said
(to analyse condi rice, or colin powell etc regards their motives is difficult, because, well they are up close/personal with proven racist who work to injure the interests of their own people - yet, they try to live with it. they may be heartless, psychotic moral imbeciles, or they could be people in an impossible position because of the racism etc. what is it? i don't know...)

[Baselinereality]

32. How On Earth Can You Sit Here and Criticize White America

While at the same time saying with blithe conviction that Condi "knew she had an asset in her race and used it?"

Do you not realize that what you just said was racist and inflammatory? Or are us white people so used to thinking things like that that it's just as natural as breathing?

"Their own people." Jeezum Crow!! Their own people. I've been white all my life and no one has accused me of not standing up for my "own people"--outside of a Klan rally, that is.

Rice and Powell are AMERICANS. They believe the political crap that they believe in because they have brains and free will and that's what they chose to believe in. They're wrong, just like the entire administration is, but their color or their sex have nothing to do with it. Just like Richard Perle, just like Wolfowitz, just like Donald Rumsfeld, just like Dick Cheney, just like George Bush.

THAT'S their "own people."

Man I wish I had brought my sense of humor with me into the forum today. Sorry for being so testy. But, I see you as racist. Maybe not James Earl Ray racist, but you're pretty uppity for (what I'm assuming) is a white person.

[bettyellen]

37. wow, i guess you didn't notice the black man planted in the audience

placed perfectly to show up over georgies shoulder in every stop of on his social security tour.

the republics always need minorities to point to so they can continue to deny their racist policies.
i would think condi is smart enough to know she's being used this way. why is pointing it out racist?

[Baselinereality]

39. Well...

I guess it's because no one ever says that "Donald Rumsfeld is being used."

To me--and, granted, I'm a little high and mighty Prissy Pants--it suggests that there's this "other" Condeleeza Rice that is good and smart and with the people, and that she's throwing all of that goodness away following George Bush and his crazy foreign policies. But, see, I remember that it was Condaleeza (does anyone know how to spell that? Drives me nuts.) Rice was the one who EDUCATED Bush on foreign policy during his initial election campaign. She taught the man everything he knows. So, to me, it's in her. She's not a poodle, following him around. She's gleefully part of the pack. You know what I mean? I don't give a hoot that she's black. What I do care about is that the only time I've seen her smile in five and a half years was when she was sitting next to Koffi Annan discussing war between Israel and Lebanon that we refuse to stop. THAT was chilling.

If we all got our news from radio, we wouldn't even know that she was black. And it wouldn't matter. She'd be just another crazy person in the administration. I guess that's where I would like to focus the debate.

But, like I said, I'm all high and mighty. I annoy myself ALL THE TIME, so I can imagine how irritated you are right now.

I think I'm going to go get some Shredded Wheat. (Of course with the Soy Milk--li'l Miss Prissy Pants is, of course, lactose intolerant! I guess I don't like ANYTHING white. Ha ha ha. Dumb joke. Whitey's going to go eat now.)

[bettyellen]

55. rumsfeld is a white man like 99% of repugs..... you have to get real and

admit that NO ONE is elevated by the republicans because of talent- only because they are going to go along. shit, she's not even qualified for the job. but most of bush's appointees of any sex or color aren't.
i know you'd like to think condi is smart and talented, well, it's irrelevant, because she was hired DESPITE that. because she is willing to not use her brains or morals, and go along with the pnac bullshit.
yes, her being black and a woman thrills the bosses. she's helping to fill two of their quotas at once. they gotta show they don;t hate women and black people. she does fit in with her bosses it seems in only one way- she doesn;t give a fuck as long as she got hers.

[pretzel4gore]

68. franz fanon says we breathe the stuff in the air....

regardless of colour, we learn to think a certain way regards race etc....so you're undoubtedly right. i actually 1st nations/grew up in white foster homes, and racism was a given in that time place. regards the subject, i really care little about rice; but suspect that, like clarence thomas, she telegraphs a certain complicity to her rightwing collegues as far as race is concerned, and that's what opens the door. i don't know that, but suspect it. thomas should not be on the supreme court, simply because he aint very smart (a well known fact)...he's there cuz he's black, and a collaborator with the white racists, politically etc....rice is also a collaborator, as a woman, so it's easy to include her background as a member of oppressed minority in that.
otoh, it could just be naked ambition, and a very astute sense of exploiting people-condi could be gifted for all we know. she is the 1st black woman to achieve the heights of power in US society, and she seems to be personal friends with junior bush; that make the story much more interesting, but the bush's are just boring nasty brutish and ugly people, which ruins the theme, and reduces her qualities too

[BrklynLiberal]

27. The fact that she is with Dimson, and still supports him says it all.

[dave123williams]

41. Don't worry; she'll calm down when her Xanax kicks in.

[Jazzgirl]

45. Smacky, I noticed her body language when they were

all on stage the other day. She looked real insecure like she didn't know how to stand. She clasped her hands in the front, then the back, then dropped them. She kept looking side to side like she wasn't sure where to stand. She is so ineffective....

[Baselinereality]

46. The Body Language of the Entire Cabinet Sucks.

None of the people in the Bush Administration are comfortable around rational, reasoned, diplomatic people. It's like garlic to a vampire.

I'm just glad she didn't give Koffi Annan a shoulder rub.

[Jo March]

63. Her hands shake quite a bit

I've been noticing that a lot lately. Her hands shake when she talks. She tries to hide it but you can always see it.

[earth mom]

66. Maybe Condi & Dumbya broke up and she is distraught.

:rofl:

[leftofthedial]

48. she's in so far over her head

that she must have totally lost her bearings by now

classic repuke crony incompetence

"Republican" is a filthy word

[WillyT]

49. Ya Mean Like THIS ???

:shrug:

[NNN0LHI]

58. You must have missed the day she tried explaining that her and Bush...

...were expecting "traditional hijackings" on or near 9/11 instead of the kind of hijackings where the plane is slammed into buildings. Now that was a real hoot.

Google "rice+traditional hijackings" and the White House transcript should be right near the top.

Don

[Eurobabe]

59. You mean Kindasleazy, if I had only known the flight numbers?

She is brainless. How she got to be where she is, I will never figure out. Unless she blew the boss.

[earth mom]

62. Kindasleezy's off her meds.

:crazy:

[Disturbed]

67. Nothing to do with her race?

Why did Busholini bring her to his insipid NAACP speech?

[earth mom]

73. Huh? I think you replied to the wrong post.

:shrug:

[yy4me]

64. That last line 'bout says it all, no heart, psychopath but then,

aren't they all?