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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:34 PM
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Why is Hezbollah Deliberately Targetting Civilians?
A Katyusha rocket has killed a 15-year-old girl, injured one other seriously and caused light injuries to others in an attack on the Druze village of Marar near Tiberias, in the Lower Galilee.

The girl was in a house that suffered a direct hit by a rocket. Police are checking reports that a mosque also was damaged by the explosion.

Why are they shooting rockets into a Druze village?

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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:35 PM
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1. They haven't got the accuracy to hit anything but large built up
areas.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:39 PM
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8. the rockets hit a small druze village outside tiberius
not a large built up area
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:49 PM
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14. Which means they were probably shooting at Tiberius.
Those rockets are REALLY inaccurate.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:16 PM
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39. I agree, what's their beef with the Druze? n/t
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:18 PM
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40. I agree with the post below, but a village is bigger than, for
example, a tank or personnel carrier.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:37 PM
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2. Because, to Hezbollah, all Israelis are the enemy.
And they aren't aiming those rockets because the rockets are horribly innaccurate. They just fire away.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:38 PM
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3. Because they are violent assholes who lack precision weapons?
I'm sure that in some way excuses Israel from deliberately targetting fleeing civilians with precision weapons, right?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:38 PM
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4. Why is Israel deliberately targetting civilians? AND UN Observers?
And ambulances? And minivans filled with people leaving, as the leaflets Israel dropped TOLD them to?
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DubyaSux Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:49 PM
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38. Do you really beleive...
....that Israel is targeting non-combatants and has only managed to kill several hundred of them? If Israel wanted to kill non-combatants, they wouldn't warn people to leave and there would be 10's of thousands dead.

1 out of 3 Lebanese support Hezbolla and their terrorist actions. Hezbolla wanted a war and they got one. I don't know what the problem is.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:48 PM
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41. I don't think Israel is being very discriminating in the bombing.
And, as been said before, this is a disproportionate response. And if this is your perspective "ONLY managed to kill several HUNDRED of them", that's indicative of the lack of respect that many in the Israeli government have for human life.

The problem is that Israel is committing war crimes, and those who support her will brook no criticism whatsoever. That is wrong.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:38 PM
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5. Because they are terrorists?
Um... right?!?
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:38 PM
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6. Because the Party of God doesn't care about God's children
any more than God's Chosen People do.

Religion trumps all truth and compassion - every time.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:38 PM
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7. 18 Israeli civilians vs. 24 Israeli soldiers.
:shrug:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:39 PM
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9. Funny, you won't find any of the screaming Hezbolla fans here
ever mentioning any of this.

It's. All. Israel's. Fault. Don'tcha know?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:47 PM
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12. You should use the search engine
Many DUers condemed this earlier today. All life is important and both sides are wrong but it is Israel which is destroying a country anf killed over 400 people including deliberattly targeting four UN Observers.
Annan says it was an apparently deliberate targeting of UN workers.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:49 PM
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13. I wasn't talking about "many" DU'ers
I was talking about the people who try to pretend that there is a moral equivalence between a democratic nation state and a terrorist organization.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:04 PM
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18. I am on of them and
I did post on that thread. There is no moral equivalent here. Israel has lost all sense of morality. No human being can sit by and not condemn Israel for this slaughter and destruction. Israel has gone completely mad.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:22 PM
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24. You think being a Democratic nation state gives one cover to do anything?
I don't. It does not give us cover to kill so many Iraqi civilians, or Vietnam civilians. It does not give Israel cover to kill, displace, use white phosphorus, and starve civilian populations.

Hezbollah at least provides food for the people. Seeing both sides does not make one a sympathizer. It makes one an understanding person.
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brmdp3123 Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:35 PM
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27. Not necessarily.
"It makes one an understanding person."

Maybe it just makes you gullible.

Who gives a shit if they provide food for people? Hitler did a few good things, too, but he was still a monster.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:39 PM
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28. Both sides share much guilt.
And civilians are the victims.
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handsignals4theblind Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:55 PM
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17. Ruggerson should read History instead of writing dull threads
No, of course it is not all Israels fault. If you read History you would be more aware of the plight of the Palestinians and you would be aware that there would be no Hezbollah if Israel had not invaded the country in 1982.
Go back and watch Fox news and get your talking points from the buffoon Anne Coulter.
Empty vessels make the most noise!
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brmdp3123 Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:12 PM
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20. What a ridiculous pack of insults and lies!
The only reason that Israel invaded in 1982 was because, as now, it was being attacked from Lebanon. Then it was the PLO, now it's Hezbollah. Same shit, different bunch of assholes. Israel left Lebanon in 2000. It's you, sir, that needs to read your history!
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brmdp3123 Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:05 PM
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19. Sure seems that way, doesn't it.
Never thought that I'd see the day.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:23 PM
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25. Funny, I haven't seen one screaming Hezbollah fans on DU
I have seen a whole lot of Israeli apologists though.

Guess it makes you feel better to think there are.... cognitive dissoance is a bitch.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:29 PM
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36. There are no such screaming fans on DU
You're simply making a false choice: either support Israel unconditionally or be considered "a screaming fan of Hezbollah."

Logical fallacy. Bull shit.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:40 PM
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10. Because They're Hateful Scumbags With No Respect For Human Life.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:17 PM
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22. Excuse Me Bub? And You've Offered What Other Than Stupidity?
I didn't say that Israel is any less abhorable in their targeting of civilians. But Hezbollah is a terrorist group with no respect for human life period. You don't like it tough. But if you want to continue to belittle me in such an immature, childish and ignorant way go for it.

And I am no fool, but you are definitely a grade A Jackass.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:43 PM
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11. Same reason Israel is destroying buildings and infrastructure
Same reason. Same reason Israel delayed letting aide get through to civilians who have been displaced without food or water.
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handsignals4theblind Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:49 PM
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15. Your just not seeing more numerous Lebanese dead-cause you watch shit all
The author of this thread only looks at the Israeli suffering. This is unacceptable but considering Israel's brutal, and humiliating occupation of Palestine and it's invasion of Lebannon before why would anyone be surprised?

The poorly read author of the thread should realise-Hezbollah was created as a result of Israel's first invasion,( with help from Iran) and secondly, HAMAS was allowed to flourish under Israeli occupation as a counterweight to the secular PLO

Time to pull back to 1967 borders or this militaristic STATE gets what it deserves.
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:19 PM
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23. And then Hezbollah and Hamas and their friends in Iran will...
just attack Israel again, as they did before. We are talking about a bunch of people who want the Jews physically exterminated and Israel to be destroyed.

From what I have read about Lebanon, most people in Lebanon dislike Hezbollah and think of them as thugs. Furthermore, I have seen no real evidence that Israel is intentionally bombing civilians. I could equally claim that Hezbollah is kidnapping innocent civilians, holding them at gunpoint in buildings that they are then using as launch sites; that way when Israel bombs the building, a bunch of civilians dies and become "martyrs to the cause".
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:16 PM
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21. Emulating the Israeli military?
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 06:17 PM by Zhade
Probably because they're a terrorist organization is my guess, much like the IDF approaches becoming one, if it isn't already.

If I were Nasrallah, I'd order Hezbollah to STOP FIRING ROCKETS, PERIOD. Then, when the Israeli military continues to indiscriminately bomb innocent Lebanese (sadly, I believe they would), there would be no excuse (however poor and flawed) to argue that the brutal attack on Lebanon is somehow justified (which it isn't).

But I'm not a terrorist, so I have no idea why they're using this, um, 'strategy'.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:32 PM
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26. They want to kill and terrorize to perhaps, invite attacks on Lebanon
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 06:32 PM by bigtree
and fan the flames of resentment among the population there to effect some sort of holy war that they think is inevitable.

Why are you asking this rhetorical question? You certainly seem intelligent enough to know the answer. Why not just assert what you feel instead of this cryptic baiting?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:56 PM
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29. it wasn't meant
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 06:57 PM by oberliner
to be cryptic baiting.

It was, as you noted, a rhetorical question meant to draw attention to the fact that Hezbollah is deliberately targetting civilians.

What I am feeling is sadness and anger.


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:04 PM
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30. me too, oberliner
I would like to see your thoughts expressed in some comprehensive way. An article or essay perhaps?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:08 PM
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31. Is there any source for this info? Thanks.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:21 PM
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32. link to full story from haaretz
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:22 PM
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33. another
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:24 PM
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34. Because that's what terrorists do.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:27 PM
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35. So that they can kill them and as many others as possible.
The whole idea of terrorism is to make the populace afraid and submissive. Won't work, but that is all they know how to do. I'm sure if they had tanks, they would be firing them at IDF forces. Just be thankful they don't have tanks, planes, aircraft carriers, subs!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:31 PM
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37. Ask them.
I don't see what they are getting out of it. If they are trying to show the Israelis they have weapons, it's foolish, since they are outgunned. They must know it.

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