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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:53 PM
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Atheist Conservatives
I was just reading a thread about religion in politics and how Republicans say Democrats aren't religious. I decided to look up atheist republican sites and some stuff actually came up.

http://www.compleatheretic.com/links/godlessright.html

I've actually talked with a few people who are atheists and Republicans btw. It's not as uncommon as some of the hardcore religious Republicans would make you believe.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:54 PM
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1. Oh, you mean "Libertarians"?
:D
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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:56 PM
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2. Well, The Guy I Talked To Was A Republican
He was atheist. I know that there are some Libertarians that are atheists such as Penn and Teller.
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Crandor Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:01 PM
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7. Most of them are even worse than typical repubs
Another site I visit is infested with them. They consider anything that helps the non-rich to be "socialism"; a lot of them even want to ban private charity (though how that would be done without government, I have no idea)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:57 PM
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3. I fail to see value in the republican statement
that "Democrats aren't religious." Incredibly moot and irrelevant point in the land of the free where our source of freedom and law and order and justice is not a religious document. Citizens of our country are free to be or not be religious, and boy does that piss "republicans" off. I see something incredibly wrong with that picture of members of the party of integrity.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:58 PM
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4. I think many forget there is a liberal wing of the Repub party...
including themselves.lol
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:59 PM
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5. Yes, they're quite common in Oregon
where they often vote Libertarian, since they don't like all the anti-sex and anti-drug rhetoric of the fundies, but they don't like public schools, environmental laws, or worker protections, either.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:01 PM
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6. but ask the other GOP whether those A-G's are invited
out for a beer. Or worse, ask if they will let one date their daughter, much less come over to their house.
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sgxnk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:16 PM
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8. reason magazine
Reason Mag is the "flagship" for libertarians, much as National Review is the flagship for conservatives.

www.reason.com

they recently held a very good debate between a reason guy (gillespie iirc) and a national review guy (jonah goldberg)

national review has a fair %age of atheist conservative inlfuence.

and reason has a lot of atheist libertarians

depending on which issues hold more or less prominence for a given individual, i know a fair # of atheist libertarians VOTE republican, but probably would not call themselves republican

i think of the three parties (dem, repub, libert), libertarians would have a greater %age of atheists than either of the other parties, whereas dems would have MORE atheists (since dems are so much more numerous than libertarians)

obviously atheists are less represented among repubs, but they have a share as well

larry elder is an atheist, i think and while he is heavily libertarian oriented, he supports repubs mostly

i think there are probably a fair # of repubs who are 'social theists' iow, they go with the trappings and the social aspects but are agnostic or atheist in reality

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Crandor Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:23 PM
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9. There is very little difference between right-wing "Libertarians" and cons
On things like labor laws, social programs, environmental laws, etc. they are often even further right than the Repubs. On the social issues: most of them want to make abortion illegal, and all oppose stem-cell research because it involves government spending (never mind the fact that research seldom gets done any other way.) I once even saw an article by one of their think tanks saying that we're losing the Iraq War because we're not killing enough civilians.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:25 PM
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10. Michelle Malkin says she is an atheist.
Wonder if the good little Catholic boy Sean Hannity knows that since he admires her so much.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:57 PM
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11. The religeous issue is overplayed here
there are a lot of very religous/spiritual progressives
there are a lot of athiest or secular conservatives

Associating all religous people with the radical right is wrong, associating all secularists with the left is equally wrong.

Those that condem all spiritual people here and else where in the progessive movement hurt us in the long run.
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