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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:22 AM
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Texas Farmers Furious Over Superhighway

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/07/20/294741-texas-farmers-furious-over-superhighway


Leroy Walters has survived many a threat on the farm that has been in his family for 120 years — droughts, hailstorms, tornadoes, grasshopper attacks.

But now he sees a manmade danger on the horizon: a colossal, 600-mile superhighway that will plow clear across the state of Texas, perhaps cutting through Walters' sorghum and corn fields, obliterating the family's houses and robbing his grandchildren of their land.

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That kind of fear and anger among farmers and other landowners across the Texas countryside could become a political problem for Republican Gov. Rick Perry as he runs for re-election in November.

It was Perry who proposed the Trans Texas Corridor in 2002, envisioning a combined toll road and rail system that would whisk traffic along a megahighway stretching from the Oklahoma line to Mexico.

The Oklahoma-to-Mexico stretch would be just the first link in a 4,000-mile, $184 billion network. The corridors would be up to a quarter-mile across, consisting of as many as six lanes for cars and four for trucks, plus railroad tracks, oil and gas pipelines, water and other utility lines, and broadband cables.

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Cintra-Zachry is paying $7.2 billion to develop the first segment. For that, it will get to operate the road and collect tolls for years to come. It is part of a growing privatization trend in the United States.

A week ago, Strayhorn picked up a $6,500 campaign donation and endorsement from the Blackland Coalition, a group of anti-corridor farmers who work the rich black soil of central Texas.
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and the new law that let's them take your land?

the super highway will go through - have we stopped the neo con bushmilhousegang from doing anything they wanted to?

they will just stuff the farmer's pockets with money and they will be furious no longer.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:29 AM
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1. a highway to import PEOPLE who will work for slave wages.
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 11:31 AM by msongs
sort an ABOVEground railroad, where people are immigrated to become slaves instead of be free.

Who says the newly elected (maybe) mexican president has no plan to improve conditions in mexico by exporting all those undesirable poor people so they cannot rebel. Then those poor people will send cash back to the corrupt mexican government and corporations.

maybe the part of the highway over walters farm will be elevated so he can still grow crops that will be lowballed on the commodities market run by Cargill and ADM.

msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

edit for typs...typsos...typos
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:33 AM
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2. This will never be built...
Who would use it..... Most of our trade is with China not Mexico....
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:35 AM
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3. Mexico has Asian ports n/t
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:42 AM
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7. China will be shipping products to ports in Mexico
That way they bypass US docks and union dock workers. Then the products will be shipped to the US via the new NAFTA superhighway using Mexican drivers rather than US drivers. There will be no border inspections.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:49 AM
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10. lol that is soooooo funnny
people really do not believe that..... Canada... LOL.... Pay a zillion dollars in tolls over free Interstate,,, to stop using those evil Union workers.... :rofl:
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:50 AM
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11. No border inspection and the first cutoms check will be at a Mexican
customs station in Kansas City that will be run by Mexicans but is currently being built and paid for by the United States.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:51 AM
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12. and they can dump their bilge right into the water
My guess is that in the US ports, there are EPA rules they must adhere to, and of course every cent they save on shipping costs means more money into the corporate pockets :(
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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:40 PM
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24. Yes
But like the "free-traders" always claim, it will "free" up American dockworkers and American drivers for "better" jobs (like flipping burgers at McDonald's.) :sarcasm:

unlawflcombatnt

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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:45 AM
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8. they plan on stopping use of the Calif. ports and are developing a

port in Mexico. all the shipping will come in there (and avoid US unions), go thru Mex. into Tex. and on up and into Canada.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:48 AM
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9. lol that is soooooo funnny
people really do not believe that..... Canada... LOL.... Pay a zillion dollars in tolls over free Interstate,,, to stop using those evil Union workers.... :rofl:
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:57 AM
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14. Because all of the labor will be Mexican, including the truck drivers,
the cost will not be higher. That's the vision anyway. You get to use Mexican port workers, Mexican truck drivers, Mexican cutoms agents (who will actually be working from a Mexican customs station in Kansas City that the U.S. is currently building). Overall, they claim costs will be lower. I don't know if that is true but if they are competative, they will be able to take a lot of business away from West Coasts ports and, of course, that is the point. Punish blue states and West Coast Unions.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:01 PM
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18. This is just BS and DO THE MATH
they will be able to take a lot of business away from West Coasts ports and

This would cost Trillions to do all to hurt the bad Union ppl in California.... The MATH does not add up..
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:21 PM
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16. the Canadian leader is in on it - for real
nt
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:27 PM
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20. You won't be laughing when this comes to pass. Which it will.
After 5+ years of * sponsored hell, how can anyone think anything he and his thugs do is innocent?! :grr:

The joke will surely be on all of us, but we won't be laughing. :mad:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:54 PM
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22. It is BS Do the MATH
:shrug:

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:43 AM
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25. Which math equation do you want? The trillions * & Co have wasted?!
If not outright stolen?!

As I said before I don't trust a thing they do-be prepared to be screwed.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:36 PM
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17. Impact statements filed, maps platted
This will happen unless people really get their act together.
TTC-35 DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT (DEIS) ISSUED

The Federal Highway Administration has now released the Draft EIS for TTC-35 which includes 521 miles of toll road that TxDOT and Cintra Zachry want to see open by 2015.

In the path, as it has been narrowed today, are more than one and a half million acres of prime farm land, almost one million people, three major aquifers, more than 8 thousand acres of public park land, and more than 100 acres of federally recognized historic sites.

From North to South the Recommended Preferred Corridor Alternative impacts these counties: Cooke, Grayson, Collin, Hunt*, Rockwall, Kaufman, Dallas*, Ellis, Navarro*, Hill, Limestone*, McLennan, Falls, Bell, Williamson, Travis, Bastrop*, Caldwell, Guadalupe, Bexar, Wilson*, Medina, Frio, LaSalle, and Webb. ( * Path could avoid these counties)

CorridorWatch.org will provide county-by-county TTC-35 maps in the very near future.

Site worth reading on this:
http://www.corridorwatch.org/ttc/index.htm
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:56 PM
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23. Zzzzz show a REAL SITE not a BS poor Web site
:grr:
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Sentath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 02:11 PM
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26. We're both OFFTOPIC, but its not that bad
What do you find so repulsive?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:38 AM
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4. This bs is bringing TX Democrats and Republicans together
The only people that are happy about this is Gov. Good Hair and the contractors. :grr:
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:42 AM
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5. Good, I hope they kill this proposal.
What a WASTE! More money going to corporate whores. Why couldn't the money be spent instead on expanding public transportation options, including RR? Much more of an increase in gas prices, and nobody's going to be able to USE that highway.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:42 AM
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6. Dallas news has reported on a couple well-attended and heated
town meetings in surrounding rural areas. What I'd like to know is how many of these people who are so angry now voted for Perry. Helloooooooo! Elections have consequences.

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:53 AM
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13. "and the new law that let's them take your land?"
It isn't a new law at all. In fact manifest destiny has been around almost as long as the US itself.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:03 PM
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15. Might as well throw in ALL of the Jerome CORSI conspiracy here
*******QUOTE*******

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

North American Union to Replace USA?


by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 19, 2006

.... President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union: ....


http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15497

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway


by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 12, 2006

.... A good reason Bush does not want to secure the border with Mexico may be that the administration is trying to create express lanes for Mexican trucks to bring containers with cheap Far East goods into the heart of the U.S., all without the involvement of any U.S. union workers on the docks or in the trucks.

Mr. Corsi is the author of several books, including "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry" (along with John O'Neill), "Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil" (along with Craig R. Smith), and "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians." He is a frequent guest on the G. Gordon Liddy radio show. He will soon co-author a new book with Jim Gilchrist on the Minuteman Project.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15623

North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court


by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 19, 2006

The Bush Administration is pushing to create a North American Union out of the work on-going in the Department of Commerce under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in the NAFTA office headed by Geri Word. A key part of the plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system that would have supremacy over all U.S. law, even over the U.S. Supreme Court, in any matter related to the trilateral political and economic integration of the United States, Canada and Mexico. ....

http://www.wnd.com/news/archives.asp?AUTHOR_ID=246

Coming soon to U.S.: Mexican customs office


Monday, June 05, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- Kansas City is planning to allow the Mexican government to open a Mexican customs office in conjunction with the Kansas City SmartPort. This will be the first foreign customs facility allowed to operate on U.S. soil.

Southern border blurs for global trade


Thursday, June 01, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Texas segment of the NAFTA Super Corridor is moving rapidly toward approval. When built, the Trans-Texas Corridor, or TTC, will be a major super-highway with six lanes mo ...

Bush border policy linked to Carlyle deal?


Tuesday, May 23, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- In January 2004, the Carlyle Group put together a new team to begin investing in Mexico. The team consisted of Luis T鬬ez, who was then an executive vice president of Desc, one of Mexico's larges ...

Immigration reform spells death for GOP


Friday, May 19, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- To measure what exactly the Senate is doing in putting together a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" bill, we have to ask what is going to change after the bill is passed: No illegal immigrant currently in the United Stat ...

Border fence will never be built


Thursday, May 18, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Senate voted to approve the amendment submitted by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., to build a 370-mile section of triple-layered fence along the Mexican border. Now the Bush administration is trying to push this as a victory for conservative ...


http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010

MMFA investigates: Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?


....
• Corsi on Islam: "a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion"

• Corsi on Catholicism: "Boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press"

• Corsi on Muslims: "RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together"

• Corsi on "John F*ing Commie Kerry": "After he married TerRAHsa, didn't John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?"

• Corsi on Senator "FAT HOG" Clinton: "Anybody ask why HELLary couldn't keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she?" ....

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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:05 PM
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19. "Don't blame me - I voted for Kerry!"
When are these farmers going to realize that it is BUSH, who they fervently supported for prez TWICE, who is stabbing 'em in the back. IN TEXAS.

He ain't no Texan! He's a hypocritical turncoat.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:38 PM
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21. Texas is on a tear with those toll roads.
In CoCo, they're about to convert 121, a highway which has been built with public funds, into a toll road. http://www.121-info.com/

Toll roads which were supposed to become free years ago never have.

Who would want this? The money needs to be spent on public transportation\, not megahighways and designer bridges (that's another story).
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