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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:47 AM Original message |
What would happen if the U.S. Stopped giving Billions a yr. to Israel? |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. Israel would have to stop being the bully and learn to talk to their |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
68. They'd have to learn about diplomacy. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. $10 billion?! |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. What IS the figure? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You made the claim...back it up! |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Roughly 2.3 billion last year, but how long has this been going on? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. $2.3 billion vs. $10 billion.. |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I'll amend it if you'll promise to get off my ass. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Why should I? |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I'll stand by my figure, after you add smart bombs & troops on the ground. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. What would happen if we cut them off was the question. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Here are just a few figures. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Still not the $10 billion! |
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Wonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Their economy would shrink by a whopping 1.5% |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. No, they own the ships outright |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. It's higher, don't amend |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. prove it! |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I provided a link. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. that proved NOTHING! |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You've heard about leading a horse to water? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:23 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. There is nothing to believe. |
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Wonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. To the religiously insane, facts are poison. nt |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. And to the intellectually deficient, truth is "bad." |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:47 AM Response to Reply #34 |
52. Aren't they? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. You ask for something to back up a statement. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:35 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. That didn't back up the OP! |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Nothing will back up the OP if you refuse to believe it. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. "after a while you're talking about real money" |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Total from 1949 to 1997 |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. and? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:20 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. And what? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. What does that prove? |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Oh mighty defender of Israel, how would you have us think? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Try not posting hyperbole. |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Where would you and I be without hyperbole? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:27 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I am guessing so...since you do so enjoy it! |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I'm rubber and you're glue... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:31 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. 3rd grade? Maybe 4th?! |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. You never say anything nice about the Palestinians, try it once. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:39 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Change the subject much? |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:40 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Why do you support Israel so vehemently? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:42 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Why do you hate Israel so vehemently? |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:42 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I hate jerks. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:43 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. So do I! |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
67. Has Israel ever done anything wrong in your opinion? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. I wasn't addressing the OP, I was talking to you. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:32 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. You don't know your own opinion and stance? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. I didn't ask you what my opinion and stance is. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. Iran and Syria would continue to support and sponsor terrorists |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. biblically bad consequences? |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Your scenarios are all apocalyptic. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. Israel would run a multitrillion dollar deficit like the U.S. and maintain |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
25. I believe the figure is more like 3 billion |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 08:53 AM Response to Reply #25 |
61. Okay, now reading a bit more about the breakdown of monies |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
54. 1. Our deficit would be 2 or 3 billion lower per year. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:33 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. thank you nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:54 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Half Of Their Arms Production Is Domestic |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
57. It would have a negligible effect on the US economy |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
58. It would be more disastrous for Israel |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
59. Maybe a massacre of all of Israel |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. If they keep up their behavior I can see why they have these |
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watercolors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
60. I see no reason to support them |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. We need to kick the hydrocarbon habit is what we need to do. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
64. 2005 - $360million economic aid. $2. 2 billion in military aid. |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
65. $3 Billion, $5 Billion, $10 Billion, MORE -- it adds up to U.S. CONTROL |
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grassfed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
66. Eretz Israel? Priceless |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
69. Israel would starve to death...Maybe we should do that. |
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Wonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. over a 1.5% reduction in GDP? nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. We're Not Talking About Bangladesh |
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voter x (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. right on! |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
72. I'd rather see the money go to health care for Americans. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
74. They would have to be a lot more diplomatic |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
75. The reason we live with trillion dollar deficits is because of the MIC. |
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