Condoleezza Rice's anti-Russian stance based on sexual problems

[lovuian]

A Russian assessment
Just proving that Condi might not be the person for this job


Condoleezza Rice's anti-Russian stance based on sexual problems
http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/11-01-2006/9488-condoleezza-0

Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, openly criticized the Russian government in connection with the gas conflict with Ukraine. Ms. Rice used quite a trivial technique of psychological pressure, which is mostly practiced in the field of education.

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Condoleezza Rice released a coarse anti-Russian statement. This is because she is a single woman who has no children. She loses her reason because of her late single status. Nature takes it all.

”Such women are very rough. They are all workaholics, public workaholics. They can be happy only when they are talked and written about everywhere: “Oh, Condoleezza, what a remarkable woman, what a charming Afro-American lady! How well she can play the piano and speak Russian! What a courageous, tough and strong female she is!
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”Complex-prone women are especially dangerous. They are like malicious mothers-in-law, women that evoke hatred and irritation with everyone. Everybody tries to part with such women as soon as possible. A mother-in-law is better than a single and childless political persona, though.

”This is really scary. Ms. Rice's personal complexes affect the entire field of international politics. This is an irritating factor for everyone, especially for the East and the Islamic world. When they look at her, they go mad
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The Russians have psychoanalysed her
:rofl:

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. "Da Da, er I mean Nyet Nyet!!!"

It took a long time for The Russians to get to know condi didn't it?

[Drum]

2. wasn't Ms. Rice touted as some kind of expert in Russian

politics, or some such rot? Another blue-ribbon Bush appointment!

[Kagemusha]

6. She was said to be a good Kremlinologist.

My usual reply was there are no good Kremlinologists.

I don't really see anyone having proven me wrong since based on Rice's performances.

[lovuian]

3. Condoleezza Rice visits Beirut to make the war between Israel and Lebanon

http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/24-07-2006/83499-condoleezza_rice-0

The US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice arrived in Israel on an official visit today. Before setting off, Ms. Rice made a speech with words of support for Israel, placing responsibility for the bloodshed on Lebanese terrorist group Hezbollah. Reinforcing Israel’s right to self-defense, the US Secretary of State appealed to avoid causing victims amongst Lebanon’s civilian population. However, Israel’s ground defense army (ZAHAL) is to be extended. The fact that this weekend Israel carried out a large-scale mobilization of reserve army forces is evidence of this.

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The Russians have her number thats for sure...

[madeline_con]

16. Pravda does great coverage of Condi.

Here's a random quote:

".. for we know her grasp of international affairs is almost as weak as her boss's."

:rofl:

[Nikki Stone 1]

4. As much as I hate Condi's beliefs, I hate male bigotry more

Sorry. The Russians who wrote this are assholes.

[noamnety]

8. Agreed. Hard to gloat over sexist bullshit

no matter whose expense it's at.

[lutefisk]

10. But even assholes can be right.

Ms. Rice has earned all the criticism she receives and more.

[beam me up scottie]

14. If she "earned" criticism, it's for her words and actions,

NOT for her sex and her choice to remain single and childless.

[panader0]

5. Where's Madeiline Albright when you need her?

[rudeboy666]

7. Ah Sexism. Alive and well in Russia.

[SoCalDem]

9. Well now..

I guess that writer has a phd in stereotypes :)

[az chela]

11. We can only hope that she doesnt make it back to this country

She should just tour the middle east so she can see what her puke friend has created and how he is destroying this planet.We sure as hell dont need her here.
All she is good for is buying expensive clothes and shoes and showing off for w who she thinks is so f----ing wonderful.They should ride off in the sunset together, never to return to this country and take uncle dick with them to get their food.He is such a heman hunter!!!

[aquart]

12. Well, Condi has no fear that her child will be forced to fight a Bush war.

Which, IMHO, is not a good thing. But then, no Republicans have that fear, do they?

[beam me up scottie]

13. Ah, I love the smell of misogyny in the morning.

I despise her as much as anyone else here, but I draw the line at applauding blatant sexism.

How many DUers would approve of a Russian article about how her race causes her problems?

[madeline_con]

15. The links thoughout the article are hilarious...

"This is the only way to satisfy her needs of a female." === "Sextuplets born in Dominican Republic"

:rofl:


”Condoleezza Rice needs a company of soldiers. She needs to be taken to barracks where she would be satisfied. On the other hand, she can hardly be satisfied because of her age.


:spank:

[beam me up scottie]

17. You think Rice being gang raped by soldiers is funny?

Fucking hilarious.

[madeline_con]

18. Who said anything about rape?

You see things that just aren't there.

[beam me up scottie]

19. You did when you cited the article.

She needs to be taken to barracks where she would be satisfied

Yeah, a good fuck will straighten her out, eh?

[madeline_con]

23. No, you're reading more into than is actually there.

A "good fuck" is not rape.

[beam me up scottie]

26. The word "taken" infers it wouldn't be voluntary.

Apparently you're just amused by the idea that uppity women need a good fuck to cure what ails them.

Well, that's different, you had me worried there for a minute.

[madeline_con]

30. Now we're inferring?

I'm so happy you're not worried anymore. That's the important thing.

[beam me up scottie]

32. No I'm not worried, I'm revolted that you think rape is funny.

When a woman is "taken" to the barracks to be fucked by soldiers, I don't need to discuss semantics in order for me to be revolted by the idea.

Obviously that's not an issue with you.

[madeline_con]

40. Why do you keep saying I think rape is funny?

Rape's definitely NOT funny and neither are your accusations.

A woman can be "taken", as you call it, to dinner. If she doesn't know where the barracks is, she'd have to be shown, wouldn't she? Do you know where there's a Russian barracks? I certainly don't.

[beam me up scottie]

41. Yuck it up. Ann Coulter would be doing the same if it was about Hillary.

And we all know how funny she is.

[madeline_con]

51. First, you twist things around ...

to try and make me look like I condone rape.

And now, from somewhere out of the blue, Ann Coulter's involved? This is nuts.

[beam me up scottie]

55. Pay attention. Post 38. This reporter is their version of Ann Coulter.

But since he wrote about a woman from the right, it's not only acceptable, it's hilarious.

[madeline_con]

60. When do you propose I have time to read post 38?

I'm being tag-teamed by two posters whose interpretation of a Pravda satire differs from mine, and they can't get over it.

[beam me up scottie]

68. You replied to it.

This article is a misogynistic freeper's wet dream, the fact that I'm nauseated by your enjoyment of it is not something I need to "get over".

[madeline_con]

91. Freepers love Condi, are you kidding? n/t

[beam me up scottie]

93. Yeah, they also defend rapists and they find the subject hilarious as well

I guess it's not just me and Buffy who find this offensive, is it?

[madeline_con]

96. Shoo, go away now.

[madeline_con]

65. I think they're ready to beam you up now.

:crazy:

[beam me up scottie]

75. Like I said, there's no intelligent life down here.

When DU starts to look like freeperville, it's WAY past time to be beamed up.

[madeline_con]

77. Except you, of course.

[beam me up scottie]

82. And the other liberals, of course.

Anyone who thinks being "taken" into the barracks and fucked by soldiers is funny doesn't really qualify, I'm afraid.

[madeline_con]

87. Yes, so many are beating a path to my... tent

to go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it.

Gee, it's too bad you're not in charge of the party, huh? I'd have my badge and secret decoder ring taken away. Boo Hoo! :(

[NMMNG]

20. Wow. Just Wow.

You think a woman being taken into barracks and gang raped by a company of soldiers is funny?


Geez Louise. :banghead:

[madeline_con]

22. Again, I ask, where does it say rape?

Who said anything about the soldiers gang raping her? Where are yougetting this? That's NOT what it said.

Geez Louise is right!

[NMMNG]

27. What do you think it means,

when it refers to a company of soldiers taking her into a tent and giving her sex? They aren't talking about romance and a tearjerker movie.

[madeline_con]

42. "... a company of soldiers taking her into a tent ...

giving her sex?"

Now they're giving her sex, so you DO see the difference!

[NMMNG]

46. "Giving her sex"

If she's not consenting IT IS RAPE.

[madeline_con]

58. Whatever you say. n/t

[NMMNG]

21. What is this mule puke?

I think Rice is as bad as any of Bush's administration but advocating gang rape? That's horrifying. What is this misogynistic garbage that all any woman needs is to be taken behind the barn and given a good lay (or beating) to straighten her out?

[beam me up scottie]

24. Oh, but it's funny when they attack women on the right.

I'm waiting for someone to post an article by a member of the KKK attacking Condoleeza Rice because she's black.

That will be hysterical.

[madeline_con]

25. "... given a good lay (or beating) ..."

So, which is it "a good lay (or beating)", or rape? :popcorn:

[beam me up scottie]

28. The fact that you find any of those actions funny is disturbing.

Do us all a favor and don't volunteer for any organizations that help rape victims or victims of domestic abuse.

[madeline_con]

34. I'm sorry you're disturbed.

And that you misunderstood the article. I don't know where you got the idea that I think rape or domestic abuse is funny.

[beam me up scottie]

38. I got the idea from your applause at the Russian version of Ann Coulter.

You obviously find this article hysterical and you have every right to yuck it up.

Enjoy.

[madeline_con]

44. Where did this Ann Coulter stuff come from?

Are you confusing me with another poster?

[beam me up scottie]

47. Nope. Ann could have written this about Cindy, would you laugh then?

Right.

No need to answer, this would never have been posted here if it had been about a woman from the left.

[madeline_con]

49. Ann ... Cindy?

What on earth are you talking about?

[beam me up scottie]

52. Right. All older single women are the same, I forgot.

If Ann Coulter had written this about Cindy Sheehan, I'm sure it would be just as funny to DUers like yourself.

[madeline_con]

54. Let's twist again!

You're unbelievable. And incoherent. Now , Cindy Sheehan AND Ann Coulter. :eyes:

[beam me up scottie]

57. You find it funny that this guy thinks Condi needs to be raped by soldiers

Coherent enough for you?

[madeline_con]

61. No.

Yes to the 2nd part.

[NMMNG]

29. Anybody who says this,

”Condoleezza Rice needs a company of soldiers. She needs to be taken to barracks where she would be satisfied.


Means rape. The mentality of these people is that independent women are frigid and if they just got bent over something and forcibly taken they'd be nicer. It's BS.

[madeline_con]

36. You're the one imagining rape scenes!

You might think sex with multiple partners is freaky, but it's far from rape. Geez!

[NMMNG]

39. They are advocating for her to be taken in with a group of soldiers

without her consent and screwed. That is rape.

They did not say "she needs to find herself a hot man and get some". That would have been consensual.

They said she needed to be taken into a tent with a gang of soldiers. That is not consensual. The type of people who say that usually say it with a leer and a grab of their crotch.

[madeline_con]

48. That's your interpretation, not mine. n/t

[NMMNG]

53. I hope nobody ever advocates for you to be taken into a tent

with a gang of soldiers and "given sex"--then follows through. I don't see it being the fun experience you seem to think it to be.

[madeline_con]

56. Don't knock it till you've tried it. n/t

[beam me up scottie]

63. I served with a woman who had this happen to her. She wasn't laughing.

But you go right ahead, I'd hate to ruin your fun.

[madeline_con]

67. Sorry about your friend, but I did'nt do it. n/t

[beam me up scottie]

70. Bored or aware of what it is you're defending?

I'd like to believe the latter, but based on past performances, I can't give you the benefit of doubt.

[madeline_con]

81. Now I'm defending something?

I thought we'd been over this.

[beam me up scottie]

72. No, but you think it's fucking hysterical. I'm sure she'd appreciate that.

:thumbsup:

[madeline_con]

76. Bullshit. and you know it.

Whatever happened to your friend has NOTHING to do with me or some Russian Ann Coulter, or any of this, regardless of how you want to twist it up or perceive it.

[beam me up scottie]

79. She was "taken" into a tent with a bunch of soldiers, what's the dif?

C'mon, where's your sense of humour?

[madeline_con]

85. Big dif

But if you don't see it...

[beam me up scottie]

89. Oh, I see it, that's why rape humour isn't funny to me.

YMMV.

[madeline_con]

95. This time I mean it ....

no more of that, it's not nice. I'm not caving. You accused me of something I didn't do.

You can keep going until you're blue in the face and your little wings fall of, but it's not gonna happen.

BM

[beam me up scottie]

98. You laughed at rape humour, you even reposted it here.

Sorry, but the suggestion that women need to be "taken" and fucked in order to adjust their attitude just isn't funny to most of us.

[madeline_con]

102. zzzzzzzzzzzzz

:boring:

[NMMNG]

64. I won't be, ever. n/t

[madeline_con]

71. Have a nice day.

[tom_paine]

31. Is it just me or is Russia totally reverting to BushPutinist policies?

I say "reverting", because BushPutinism (at this early stage of the game in which the Founding Principles of BushPutinism are being laid out: eternal war, endless lies, a patina of democratic facade culminating still in rigged elections and a relatively gentle policy towards disseneters, compared to the Soviets) is merely the newest incarnation of age-old totalitarianism, which has existed long before the term itself was invented.

People might look at these articles and laugh at the way they poke fun of the hateful Busheviks, but I see a more dangerous development. For a short time, it seemed like Pravda was becoming a little closer to being a proper journalistic organization.

Now it just seems like it's old self again. This Pravda article could have been written in 1978 about Cyrus Vance. And why not? Fox "News" has in a sense re-legitimized such Soviet-like behavior.

But the Russians are back, and that is yet another ominous development. Plus, our leadership is so bad, they've been strengthening their position at our expense.

[beam me up scottie]

37. Excellent points.

Welcome to the future of journalism in the US if independent media doesn't receive the support it needs to stay alive in a faux news/clear channel/gannett dominated market.

[Solly Mack]

33. I'm sorry I read this

The article trips over an occasional conjunction to string together a series of common, and very well known, misogynistic stereotypes.

Object to Rice, I do.....but not because she's a woman.

[Bluebear]

43. Not just a woman, but an unfulfilled one!

'If she has no man by her side at her age, he will never appear.' :eyes:

I think Rice has big psychological issues, but none of them are because she is sexually unfulfilled.

[Solly Mack]

50. Yep. That's just one of the stereotypes

and the basis for the entire pile of hate...nothing without a man (and children) and just needs a good fuck to straighten her out (in this case, a gang of soldiers)

[beam me up scottie]

59. C'mon, Solly, where's your sense of humour?

This is funny stuff.

I mean, it's still here even after several alerts, so it must be acceptable.

[Solly Mack]

62. I guess I need the sexing up of a good man - or several

to recapture a sense of humor. You know how empty us older, childless women get.

I imagine the mods are still asleep. It's still early...or late...there.

[Bluebear]

69. But you can never BE satisfied, because of your age.

:crazy:

[Solly Mack]

73. Yeah, I'm doomed to an unhappy existence

Because I'm nothing without a man. Nothing without children. I need a good fuck to cure what ails me but...I can't get a man because I'm too old and too vicious...so I can't get the cure of a good fuck and some children.

The mind wobbles

[beam me up scottie]

74. Yep, that's all we ever needed. Damned uppity women.

Fucking feminist nazis ruined this country, if only the men had known there was a cure for what was wrong with them it might have turned out different...

[Solly Mack]

78. I know. Substituting our jobs for the love of a man we so desperately need

to be "real" women. Just a little behavioral modification through sex and children to achieve our true natures.

I can't do this much longer with a deadpan face. My viciously funny side is about to emerge...no doubt caused by my too old to be useful, childless state.

[beam me up scottie]

80. I thought I was transported to freeperville when I found this thread.

Just when you think it can't get any worse in GD...

[Solly Mack]

83. If such articles generated discussion on sexism...

sigh....they seldom do unless a woman post them.

But to see the "don't knock it until you've tried it"???? about the suggestion that all Condi Rice needs is to go into a barracks of soldiers and let them gang(rape) her?

Just slap me across the face, chain me to the kitchen sink, and call me less than human....it amounts to the same.

[beam me up scottie]

84. Yep, because we only pretend to not want it. No doesn't really mean no.

We all fantasize about being raped by soldiers.

And it's funny, har de har har.

Because no guys actually believe that, right?

No soldiers ever raped women (or little girls), right?

What a laugh riot.

[Solly Mack]

88. A mod should be around soon and hopefully this will get locked

I'll just nurse a few rape fantasies where soldiers shoot my family and rape me before putting a bullet in my head and burning my dead body.

Or maybe they don't shoot me and burn me...and then I can be a better woman for the rape ...you know, just a good fucking is all any woman needs to be the best woman she can be.

Which to choose? Which to choose?

[beam me up scottie]

92. No such thing as rape.

Didn't you know that?

We all want it, we just don't know it.

This is what fucking kills me, rape is not funny because some men actually DO think that.

It's NEVER been funny and it has nothing to do with women being uptight about sex.

Fuck the people who try to say there's something wrong with us because we find it offensive.

[Solly Mack]

94. Yep..and those men dare call it "seduction"

They think - it's because NO really means YES and she just needs a little encouragement. She's just playing hard to get when she pushes me away, she really just wants me to be the man and "take" her.

I may hurl.

[beam me up scottie]

97. Rapists can always justify their acts of violence.

That doesn't really surprise me.

What surprises (and nauseates) me are the people who think it's perfectly acceptable to jokingly suggest that it's just what we women need and then respond with faux innocence when we don't laugh it up with them.

[Solly Mack]

100. I honestly don't know how anyone reaches a certain age..

and not know that harming women isn't funny. That rape is nothing to joke about.

It's a case of you don't want to know - because it's not happening to you - then you don't want to know how others are hurt by the actions and the attitudes. Especially if knowing curtails your "fun." If knowing forces you to change your behavior. If knowing exposes you for being a sexist piece of shit.

[beam me up scottie]

103. If knowing curtails your "fun". Exactly.

Hopefully when I come home from work, this thread will be gone.

Gotta go, though, Solly, it was nice running into you even if it was in such a despicable thread.

I think I'll go back to ignoring GD until things calm down.

[opihimoimoi]

35. There are many peeps out there who would be a better SOS

She is a crony as Brownie was.

[beam me up scottie]

45. If this *reporter* had written this about Cindy, would it still be funny?

I mean, they're both women, after all, what's the difference?

All single women just need a good fuck, right?

[Hekate]

66. Reflects worse on Russia than on Condi, if you ask me

This so-called analysis is as creepily mysogynistic as it gets. What next? -- "All she needs is a good f**k?"

We ought to be past that, in this country at least. We don't like Condoleeza Rice because of the Bush policies she helps craft and promote -- there is sufficient material there without going into her supposed repressions.

Hekate

[dollydew]

86. Unnecessary sexism re: Condi Rice

Having been associated with the military I can say "taken to barracks" does not mean what you think it means. It's not a dinner invitation. It's not an invitation to consensual sex. It has happened and does happen to women living in military barracks (also to military women living off base).

[beam me up scottie]

90. Thank you.

Thank you for speaking out, and you're absolutely right.

This happened to a woman I served with, and the men involved all tried to say she wanted it.

[NMMNG]

99. Finally somebody else gets it

And welcome to DU!

[Solly Mack]

101. Exactly

It's not a tea party invite...it's rape.

[lostnfound]

104. Locking

Offensive to many due to sexist writing