Does anyone think Clinton's support of Lieberman will change

[babylonsister]

many minds?

PS I just heard on MSNBC his support comes w/a condition; if Joe loses to Lamont, Clinton will put his clout behind Lamont, and Clinton has asked Lieberman not to run as an independent.

[Olney Blue]

1. I don't think it will change the outcome. Joe's going down, IMHO.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. That's good news, then

perhaps pressure will be put on Holy Joe to act like most defeated Dems do-support the victor. Paul Simon of IL did this when he lost the gubenatorial primary to Dan Walker in '72. Paul went on to become a Congressman and one of the best US Senators we've ever had.

[LibinMo]

3. Yeah it's changed mine

I've lost what respect I had left for Bill Clinton

First Pappy Bush.......now this.

[H2O Man]

4. No.

The democratic machine is concerned the summer primary turn-out rates will be low. Clinton was there to encourage those already prone to voting for Lieberman to go to the polls.

[4nic8em]

5. If it doesn't...

Hillary should take note...

[Democrat 4 Ever]

6. I think that Lieberman is too far gone. The last thing he can try

would be swallowing his pride and begging (and some major league genuflecting!) the Big Dog to help out. Hopefully the people who are voting between Lieberman and Lamont have already made up their minds and Clinton will get to throw his support behind Lamont in just a couple of weeks.

Sorry, Lieberman, you have jumped the shark. Even Clinton isn't going to save you this time.

[existentialist]

7. I don't think that it will change many voters' minds

I don't think it will change Lieberman's mind either. I fully expect him to run as an independent after the Democratic primary.


I do think that the primary itself has the potential to change a lot of minds.

[HereSince1628]

8. Personally, I think this cost Clinton more than it benefited Joe.

but Clinton has a lot of brass in his purse.

[saltpoint]

9. babylonsister, good question. I hadn't heard that report on MSNBC

but am encouraged by BClinton's decision to support Lamont and urge Lieberman not to run as an indy -- if that's how the primary turns out.

'Appreciate your passing that along.

BClinton can always change a few minds. But I'm not sure even the Big Dog can stop Ned Lamont's surge to this nomination.

[panader0]

10. I would think that Hillary would want to distance herself from Joe

Just as we on this forum are distancing ourselves from Hillary.

[Mandate My Ass]

11. I'm sick and tired of the party "leadership" telling me

whom I should support. In PA, they put repug lite (Casey) up against an eminently defeatable candidate - Sick Rantorum.

Let the people decide who will be the better represenative of their issues. Joementum is demonstrably out of touch with what the electorate feels is important to them.

[skipos]

22. Uhm, the people do decide. Ya know, all them folks voting in the primary?

Are you going to defend their choice if they nominate Lieberman?

[Kagemusha]

12. And why would Joe care what Bill Clinton thinks?

It wouldn't be the first time Joe's turned his back on the man.

[WI_DEM]

13. No, endorsements don't mean shit anymore

I loved Howard Dean and voted and worked for him but the Harkin, Gore and Carter endorsements didn't make him the nominee anymore than Bill Clinton stumping for Kerry made Kerry president.

[wakeme2008]

14. Bill is only doing this for Hillary... When Joe goes down...

Bill and Hillary will have to be happy with her being a Senator... The WH dream is OVER.

[cynatnite]

15. Clinton knows if Lieberman goes independent...

that it'll put a republican in his seat and Lamont would lose.

If Lieberman was a true democrat and loyal to the party, he'd take the loss gracefully and throw his support behind Lamont rather than allow a repuke to take his seat.

[JerseygirlCT]

19. Unless the GOP here dumps its candidate, that isn't going to

happen. Just isn't. Schlesinger is a joke. The race would be between Lieberman and Lamont. Lieberman would probably get much more Republican support than Schlesinger would.

[cynatnite]

27. Thanks for the info...

Just that much more reason we should throw all of our support behind Lamont.

[JerseygirlCT]

29. I'm hearing some commentary, and reading some opinion

pieces (probably spurred by Clinton's visit yesterday) to the effect that we may be throwing the election (not to the GOP, necessarily, but to Lieberman as an I, putting him in the driver's seat in the senate).

What I don't get is what is wrong with using the primary system to chose a candidate? Why the presumed ownership of the seat by an incumbent? Regardless of the "D" after his name, if your senator isn't representing you well, why can't you chose another?

Don't get that reasoning, or why it's people unhappy with Lieberman who are supposedly harming the party.

[TlalocW]

16. I'm hoping that...

Clinton will get up to speak at a rally for Joe, talk for five minutes then say something like, "Oh, what the hell am I doing. This douchebag jumped down my throat in the 90s for an extramarital affair and basically said I was poisoning the morals of the country. Yes, what I did was wrong, but his moral backbone seems to have disappeared with his support for the current president's immoral and illegal war. I can't go on anymore. Vote Lamont. Thank you and God bless America."

TlalocW

[babylonsister]

18. Wow! LOL! What's that expression about hoping in one hand...?

That is a great fantasy though! :toast:

[cboy4]

17. Huh come so many people can't get this through their heads?

Democratic senators are going to support their colleague in the primary.

That couldn't be more telling when you see someone like Sen. Boxer (a wonderful senator in my opinion) supporting Lieberman, despite her fierce opposition of the war.

The sooner some realize that politicians are politicians and they tend to support their own (and I don't like that seemingly blanket position) -- pergaps the less angry you'll find yourself.

To recap, they're politicians people.

[kohodog]

26. Most politicians are members of the Incumbent Party Club.

It seems to have more sway than either the Republican or Democratic Party for some of them.

[goforit]

20. Clinton is bought and paid for. I've lost total respect for the schmuck.

[longship]

21. It's more likely to change people's mind about Big Dawg.

Big Dawg calling Lieberman a "good Democrat" may come back to haunt him.
If Lieberman loses the primary and runs as an independant he is, by definition, *NOT* a good Democrat.

[pennylane100]

23. Bill let us all down today!

If he did it for Hillary, that would make it understandable. However then we get to the question, why on earth would Hillary campaign for a candidate who:

A. Trashed her husband (a fellow democratic being harrassed in a well organised campaign to destroy his presidency.

B. Tell the female population of Connecticutt that if they want the hospital services they are entitled to, they need to take a short ambulance ride.

I think the decision reflects badly on all three of them. I think they disrespected the voters of Connecticut.

[DemonFighterLives]

25. Good answer

All 3 are looking goofy.
Bill and Hill will get no buoyancy climbing on Lieberman's ship of fools.

[MissWaverly]

24. It will change as Lieberman continues to sink like a stone

she might try listening to more moderate voices on Iraq herself.

[samsingh]

28. i don't think it will

hopefully if lieberman loses, Clinton can talk him out of running as an independent - Hillary is on record saying she would only support the Democratic nominee.

[Skidmore]

30. Well, if Clinton wants Dems to nominate Hillary, he sure as heck

better look like he's backing the Democratic candidate.