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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 02:22 AM
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A Pale Blue Dot
I know that this has been posted many times.., but in these times maybe we need to remember we are all passengers on the same pale blue dot....

http://www.bigskyastroclub.org/pale_blue_dot.htm

A Pale Blue Dot



Preface:
On October 13, 1994, the famous astronomer Carl Sagan was delivering a public lecture at his own university of Cornell. During that lecture, he presented this photo:




The photo above was taken by Voyager 1 in 1990 as it sailed away from Earth, more than 4 billion miles in the distance. Having completed it primary mission, Voyager at that time was on its way out of the Solar System, on a trajectory of approximately 32 degrees above the plane of the Solar System. Ground Control issued a command for the distant space craft to turn around and, looking back, take photos of each of the planets it had visited. From Voyager's vast distance, the Earth was captured as a infinitesimal point of light (between the two white tick marks), actually smaller than a single pixel of the photo. The image was taken with a narrow angle camera lens, with the Sun quite close to the field of view. Quite by accident, the Earth was captured in one of the scattered light rays caused by taking the image at an angle so close to the Sun. Dr. Sagan was quite moved by this image of our tiny world. Here is an enlargement of the area around our Pale Blue Dot and an excerpt from the late Dr. Sagan's talk:



"We succeeded in taking that picture , and, if you look at it, you see a dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever lived, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.

The earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity -- in all this vastness -- there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us. It's been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character-building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

We are all in this thing together, semetic or not...; and remember that arabs and jews are both semetic... religious or not, by the koran, torah and/or bible, the 3 great religions are all connected
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 02:47 AM
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1. it's pretty bad when you have to step THIS far back
to find commonality.


when the dot disappears, you will have the three "great" relgions to thank.
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sgxnk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 03:18 PM
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11. utter rubbish
if u think the three great religions are/will be to blame for the destruction of the earth, lets not forget that since the (relatively new on a historical sense) advent of atheist nations, we have also seen massive bloodshed

furthermore, there was lots of bloodshed from pagan and other sorts of religions, in the past when they existed in greater #'s

the problem is aspects of human nature

it is not religions fault, and not the abrahamic religions specifically


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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 12:24 AM
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13. atheist nations? you mean... the ROOSKIES!
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 12:29 AM
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14. Atheist is not the same as secular.
The United States is not a "atheist" nation, it is secular. It does not forbid religion, it forbids it becoming a part of our government.

And there are very few that would say that religion in and of itself is the problem. The real problem is "fundamentalist" religion and the Us vs. Them mentality it creates.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 03:22 AM
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2. Here they are, representatives for the three great religions


From just around the same period.
None of them extreme in their belief in God, an important factor leading up to the circumstances under where the picture was taken.

All three had their 'reward' coming ...
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 08:50 AM
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4. I saved the newspaper from that day.
I was truly hopeful. I recall President Clinton saying: We're all sons of Abraham. That's a start. :cry:
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 12:38 PM
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10. I remember that!
It was a sunny day :-)
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:25 AM
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6. I'm going to print this and send it, post it, mail it everywhere. Do you
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 10:25 AM by cyberpj
by chance have any other info - date? article? etc?

Thank you so much for posting this. And may I suggest you post it as a separate thread for more of us to see?



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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 12:37 PM
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9. Maybe your'e right
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 12:38 PM by mogster
Hope I didn't hijack the thread :hi:

I'll drop a thread about the occation ;-)
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 03:36 AM
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3. from a distance, Carl is watching us.
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 08:52 AM
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5. thanks for this.
it is indeed GOOD to be reminded that we are just a speck on a speck in an unimaginable VASTNESS that no language on earth can even come close to comprehending.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:29 AM
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7. excellent.
Thank you.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 11:47 AM
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8. Carl Sagan was a true visionary. And the man LOVED turtle necks :-)
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 11:49 AM by file83
He gave science a warmth others can only try to mimic. He made us realize that science is ultimately about love. Love of the universe we find ourselves in. A desire to understand everything about her.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:23 AM
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12. there you are!
i am that.

peace.
dp
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