Arlen Spector wrote the Kennedy single bullet theory?

[LittleClarkie]

I did not know that, but I just read it over at Kos. Kind of colors my perspective on the guy. Makes me wonder who he was covering for exactly.

[Tiggeroshii]

1. I remember this in JFK

Kevin costner mentioned it in the movie, I was like, "Wha? Specter? What a loser..."

I looked back on it and that DA really knew what he was talking about... Specter has a conscience but he's still a part of the high powered corporation that's pulling the strings. His real test is whether he will stop it when it's going to far or not give a damn when it far exceeds it's limits. I'm guessing these spying hearings he's talking about is just gonna be another long drawn out phase 2... thenthe dems will call a closed session and they'll have another good ol fashioned drinking party, whether the minotiry party gets to pie the majority leaders one at a time. That's the real reason Frist and em didn't like it. They just got new suits...

[Neil Lisst]

2. yes, he's the ONE!!

He's been selling out for 40 years.

[NaturalHigh]

3. Did he really write it or just help push it through?

I thought they got some kind of ballistics "expert" to think up that one.

[NAO]

4. I believe it is called the "Magic Bullet Theory"

I believe it is called the "Magic Bullet Theory" within the scholarly communities who study these things. Yes, it was crafted by Specter (the one in the Senate, not the one in the James Bond movies).

[jonnyblitz]

5. my freeper dad brings this up whenever Spector is mentioned. nt

[f-bush]

6. He was counsel to the Warren Commission

Gerald Ford was the actual working chair for the commission. Nixon was flying out of Dallas at almost the exact time Kennedy was shot. Makes you wonder what these repukes were up to even way back then huh?

[lapfog_1]

11. And don't forget who was the newly minted CIA operative

located in Texas...

I'll get you a hint... his son is the subject of the song "Idiot Son of an Asshole".

Here is an interesting excert...

(George Bush here is GHW, not *)
http://www.tarpley.net/bush8b.htm

...
Nation, "a source with close connections to the intelligence community confirms that Bush started working for the agency in 1960 or 1961, using his oil business as a cover for clandestine activities." 1 By the time of the Kennedy assassination, we have an official FBI document which refers to "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency," and despite official disclaimers there is every reason to think that this is indeed the man in the White House today. The mystery of George Bush as a possible covert operator hinges on four points, each one of which represents one of the great political and espionage scandals of postwar American history. These four cardinal points are:

1. The abortive Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba, launched on April 16-17, 1961, prepared with the assistance of the CIA's "Miami Station" (also known under the code name JM/WAVE). After the failure of the amphibious landings of Brigade 2506, Miami station, under the leadership of Theodore Shackley, became the focus for Operation Mongoose, a series of covert operations directed against Castro, Cuba, and possibly other targets.

2. The assassination of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas on November 22, 1963, and the coverup of those responsible for this crime.

3. The Watergate scandal, beginning with an April, 1971 visit to Miami, Florida by E. Howard Hunt on the tenth anniversary of the Bay of Pigs invasion to recruit operatives for the White House Special Investigations Unit (the "Plumbers" and later Watergate burglars) from among Cuban-American Bay of Pigs veterans.

4. The Iran-contra affair, which became a public scandal during October-November 1986, several of whose central figures, such as Felix Rodriguez, were also veterans of the Bay of Pigs.

...

Shackley later become involved with various presidential campaigns, most notably, G.H.W. Bush.

It just amazes me how many of the "big scandals" of our recent history are related to one party, one group of maybe 100 individuals, all of whom connect to the BFEE. And to Skull and Bones. Kennedy(s), Watergate, Iran-Contra, Bay of Pigs, and so on.
(Getting out the superglue for the tinfoil hat!)

[FreedomAngel82]

19. It is quite amazing

How it's all the same people. And they're back!

George and Felix chatting in the VP office:



Note from Bush to Felix:



George and Felix again:

[f-bush]

27. Good One

Yeah I new Bush Sr was lurking around there. More and more it seems to me that the repukes had there fucking fingerprints all over the rifle (s)

[oasis]

7. Specter was one of the few Republican senators who voted to aquit Clinton

after the impeachment.

[LittleClarkie]

8. So what do you think of him? Decent, or no?

I thought he was one of the decent ones. Now I'm not so sure.

[The Magistrate]

9. He Is A Weather-Vane, Ma'am

Very sensitive to changes in weather....

He is also near death's door, which has on occasssion improved people's character: it is hard to scare a dying man.

[zbdent]

24. He had moderate praise for Saddam Hussein

before SH invaded Kuwait - while the "radical, anti-American lefties" were calling SH the Hitler of the Middle East . . .

[oasis]

26. Arlen's decent enough. For a Republican. Not a "Profile in Courage" during

his time on the Warren Commission. Right wingers gave him some grief during the Clinton trail and from remarks that he made about future SCOTUS appointments soon after he was appointed Judicial Committee Chairman.

[BuyingThyme]

10. The objective of Specter, and other lawyers and officials on the

Committee, was to find a way of explaining something that could not be explained. They had to prove something that could not be proved. Specter played a key role in proving a lie. Specter is a Bush Family shill:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5648330

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5663753

[FreedomAngel82]

20. Poppy Bush owns his ass

If he does anything against King George I'm sure it's because Poppy Bush isn't stopping him.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. He's aged fairly well, huh?

I mean, you wouldn't guess the guy was THAT old.

[LittleClarkie]

13. Only when he was sick

Now that his hair is growing back, no, I wouldn't.

I wonder if he's cured, or just not in chemo anymore.

[Rageneau]

14. Specter CREATED the magic bullet theory

It was Arlen himself who came up with that specious explanation for too many impact points and not enough bullets. The fact that this ludicrous notion was accepted by the press back then (and is defended by the press to this day) is to me convincing proof that at least some members of the Warren Commission were CIA-FBI stooges -- placed in positions where, like Specter, they could bend the facts to support invented evidence.

Our troubles today have their roots in the JFK assassination -- and in all the official lies surrounding it.

[Awsi Dooger]

15. Well, at least he understands probability

And common sense. If not much about politics.

Yeah, I know, the pattern of early deaths proves it was a conspiracy. And yadda yadda. Save it for a puppet who you can intimidate or fool, or someone who's simply desperate to fit in. I'd love to have a video/audio tape of what actually happened, every angle at close and indisputable range, and bet against every one of you conspiracy goofs and (temporarily) take all your cash. Then I'd hand it back in sympathy because it was outright theft.

[FreedomAngel82]

21. Just because

you claim consperiacy doesn't mean it isn't true. There's stuff out there with hard evidence such as with Poppy. Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it's true. Lots of people still believe Saddam had something to do with 9/11. Does that mean they're right? Nope.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. Yeah. Well, there was a second film of the assasination.

FBI "disappeared" that, too.

At least they didn't get to the Zapruder film. Actually, what proves it was a conspiracy, to me, was that there was NO FUCKING WAY Oswald did it with the three shots he got off. That means someone else did it. Voila. Conspiracy.

[joanski0]

16. I have a copy of the Warren Commission

Report. Guess I'll have to dig it out and see what Arlen Specter says.

[H2O Man]

17. You might want to

examine what the Warren Commission had concluded before evidence of a missed shot forced them to make two shots into one. The "magic bullet" theory can only be fully appreciated for the pathetic lie that it is, when one realizes that the WC had at first recognized that two bullets did the damage that would - in the final report - become one.

[SaveElmer]

29. I have a copy signed by Gerald Ford...

Who was of course on the commission...

While I believe there were probably lapses in the investigation, I do believe Oswald was the only shooter.

[FreedomAngel82]

18. Yep

This is why I believe shit this guy says. He's a pure liar and a hypocrite. If he gave a damn about his country he would tell us the truth with Kennedy. He knows damn well. Why else did he make up this lie? It shows who he is hiding. How the hell can one bullet go through Kennedy's throat? Attack the driver? And blow his head? I mean c'mon!

[juliana24]

22. I've been telling that to everyone for weeks now. Specter is a fraud.

[Justice Is Comin]

23. I wasn't there

and I thought OJ was a slam dunk. So anything is possible. I'm going to tell you that I have seen numerous in depth documentary examinations of the Kennedy assasination.

I couldn't begin to get it through my head how one bullet could supposedly change directions, go through bone and come out pristine as one taken from a new box of cartridges. But then I saw a detailed and apparently well researched expose' hosted by Peter Jennings on ABC with the sole purpose of confirming or debunking the one bullet theory. That program progressed with independent experts examining in minute detail the path of the bullet, the angle, the ability to fire the gun the documented number of shots in the time window and appear in all the locations witnesses observed him after the shooting.

They took each of the other theories, the grassy knoll, even one speculated about a shot coming from a sewer drain ahead of the motorcade. They dissected the Zapruder footage, and found witnesses with film that had never been seen before. They looked at all the autopsy reports, compared them with witnesses that hadn't come forward prior to this report and much much more.

I can't list detail specifics for you, but at the end of that report, it was proven to the exclusion of any other reasonable conclusion than the bullet fired by Oswald from the School Book Depository was solely responsible for Connally's wounds and Kennedy's death.

Specter is replete with reasons to dislike him. But something has changed. He was as fair as any Democrat could ask in the Alito hearing. A comment many may not have heard at the end was very quick and not dwelled on. But I heard it. He said we're going to have the General shortly testifying about the wiretaps. They think it's legal. I happen to think it's not . The import of that statement can't be over stated.

That comported with everything he said prior to the Alito hearings. It was further linked with his statement on a Sunday talk show that, if Bush broke the law, the remedy is IMPEACHMENT. That's on tape and it's witnessed by a national TV audience.

Specter is going to surprise you. He has either gained a conscience, he's angry with Bush making him look like a fool, or both. But Arlen Specter is maybe going to be the one that saves this country. You need to give him that chance.

[juliana24]

32. Total Hogwash !!!!

You havent a clue as to what you are speaking of, do you?

[Sydnie]

25. This is an interesting read

http://www.dealeyplazauk.co.uk/historical%20accuracy.htm

Some of the testimony that Specter was involved with is reproduced there. Also the sketches and how they came to be are explained too.

[long_green]

28. With all due respect

it surprises me when I hear that people don't know that.

What's fishy about the single bullet theory is Specter and the gang came up with that after going with the FBI's conclusion that three shots only were fired with all of them striking home. A wounded witness (James Tague) came forward and suddenly three shots, three hits (one on Connally, two on Kennedy), wouldn't fly. Take a look at what they said the magic bullet did and realize that they had no choice: they couldn't add a fourth shot, so they stretched probability till it snapped.

and it worked.

[Hubert Flottz]

31. That's why you can't trust the man in a shit house with a muzzle on

I'm sure Mr. Sphincter will more than live up to his "good" name, when it comes to lining Bushco out on Peeping-tom-Gate! About like the "FINE" job that Senator Pat Robert's committee has done, of "investigating" Bushco's lying and spying.

It's hard to tell what kinds of perverted steamy conversations Bush has taped in and around Washington. I'll bet shrub and uncle dicky-poo know who wears boxers, or briefs in DC, by now. Bush prolly has all the GOPers in congress, taped on their 1-900 calls to the girls gone wild, so the guilty GOPers keep in goose step with the White House, or they'll get shafted like the GOP shafted Bobby Barr.

[chefgirl]

33. Something my Dad used to say

" Of course there was one shooter... One shooter in the book depository, one shooter on the grassy knoll, probably one more shooter a little further up the road, and so on.."

-chef-