Un-Settling Turtle Island: will you, or won't you? Who's with me?

[AlienGirl]

Considering how much outrage has been amassed over the displacement of the Palestinians, I think the time is right for the Un-Settle Turtle Island movement to take hold.

This Un-Settlement will return to its original owners the land that was stolen and swindled away from First Nations peoples by the Europeans. That this crime began hundreds of years does not make it any less of a crime, nor does it make the nation that now occupies that land any less guilty of (at the very least) receiving stolen property.

My proposal is this: If I own any land, I will make a provision of my will that upon my death, its ownership will revert to the Nation that originally lived there. They can use it or sell it at current market value if they see fit--either way, they will get their property back.

If enough occupiers of North America do this, eventually the First Nations will regain much of their original land! I am sure they will let the rest of us keep living here.

Tucker

PS. If you won't join this movement, why won't you?

[benburch]

1. Hmmm...

You could argue my land is already in the hands of a member of the Choctaw...

But really it ought to belong to the Potawatami Tribe.

I'll consider your idea.

[Bobbieo]

2. Does this apply to Caledonia?

[SoCalDem]

6. and Diego Garcia?? and Hawaii??

The egg, once scrambled cannot go into the shell and produce a chick.

BUT

enlightened people can apologize, reimburse, and possibly get all involved parties to sit together and hash out trheir own destinies.. That's what's been denied them for AGES.. Usually uneducated indigenous people who got hornswaggled by crafty wersterners..:(

[H2O Man]

12. "uneducated"

Wow.

[SoCalDem]

16. "Uneducated" ...as in the ability to read and understand the english

in the paperwork that undid their country... (uneducated in the WESTERN ways).. Not unintelligent...indigenous people managed for eons before contact with westerners..

[benburch]

3. Oh, and a question...

...what if the tribe that the particular land used to belong to was wiped out?

[AlienGirl]

4. I suppose in that case it should revert to the tribe that's closest

[benburch]

5. OK, that makes sense.

And what of lands that were in eternal dispute? There were some places that were boundary lands that nobody really owned.

[AlienGirl]

7. They can go back to being disputed by the same disputors

[rumpel]

8. nice thought

:)

[AlienGirl]

9. Why, thank you!

It is more than a thought; it has been my plan for many years now, and this is the perfect opportunity to advocate for it.

Tucker

[laylah]

10. I LIKE the idea,

AG. There are Sauk and Fox descendants here. My neighbor showed me the original deed to their property, originally the whole of this small valley, proudly exclaiming how their ancestors stole the land from the Native Americans of the area. I shall pass this idea along.

Jenn

[BeFree]

11. I've considered this

It would be more than fitting to return my place to the first people. Neat to see the idea here.

[xchrom]

13. i like it!

[SpiralHawk]

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[benburch]

15. One has to be careful with the wording.

One must encumber the title deed such that the land will always be part of the tribal lands and may never be sold for any reason whatsoever.

I think a lawyer will have to weigh in here.

[AlienGirl]

17. I would not put that restriction on it

If it's not my land, where do I get off telling the rightful owners that they may not sell it?

Tucker

[theHandpuppet]

18. I have to admit this is an intriguing idea

Especially since my partner and I have no heirs. But her people come from Oaxaca, Mexico.

[DarkmoonIkonoklast]

19. I have an additional notion, more as an "in the mean time" plan...

   It's actually in the form of paired petitions to be taken before the United Nations.
   One would extend Formal United Nations recognition as Sovereign Nations to all existing AmerInd Tribes, either individually, or in whatever aggregate THE TRIBES choose to form, regardless of whether they are Federally Recognized. The other would request immediate consideration for membership of those tribes, or tribal confederations, in the United Nations.
   This has been standing, Official Policy of my "group", the United Solidarity Alliance since its inception back in the early 1980s. (I say "group, as currently, it has a membership of one. I have, however, long considered AG, along with several others NOT currently members of D.U. as members of the Alliance Board, to be formally invited to serve, if and when.)
   If someone with actual experience in such matters wishes to promote these petitions, I would be pleased to enroll them in the Alliance, with the Official Title of Associate Director of Policy Planning and Implementation.
   Comments?

[G_j]

20. at first I thought you were being cynical

but upon reading, your idea is actually quite good, no.. wonderful!

:thumbsup: