I wrote a book -

[Joe for Clark]

It is called - "On a Wing and a Prayer" - memories of a fighter pilot and a nurse in WWII.

Now I am an accountant, but I felt so strongly about the sacrifices (of our parents) in WWII I had to write that book. No choice. Took me five years.

I think there is a lesson for us.

I don't know that we learned it, but god damn, how did we miss it??

Mr "W" - he knows just the amount equal to his father's misadventure.

I was no fighter pilot then. But I DO KNOW - his father was no hero. How dare he be the last person out on a mission - how dare he and use the title "fighter pilot" - I know many "fighter pilots"- best of the best - sure not from the TANG.

What an abuse of language.

Joe

[MissWaverly]

1. that's the problem; there is no inner core

When I was a kid, my mother used to buy these hollow Easter chocolate bunnies, the outside was
all there was, once you starting eating, the inside was just air, it looked impressive but
it was just a little chocolate surrounding a big empty space. That's what I think of both
of them. I remember George, Sr. during Katrina saying the people on the rooftops didn't complain, how would he know, was he up there with them? Now with all the problems in Lebanon,
all Bush could talk about was a pig roast, this is another Pet Goat moment. I am sorry, if
you want to be an elitist snob, be a corporate ceo but a government official is the servant
of the people, he should be on board in a crisis just like a soldier. Congratulations on
writing the book, God knows we need role models for our young people today.

[fearthem]

3. Perfect analogy - they are empty shells.

[Joe for Clark]

4. Miss Waverly -

What does that mean???


Joe

[MissWaverly]

7. What it means is that we have no real leaders

Your parents were there, they did their duty, risked their lives, Bush is all show, he poses
for the camera then his work is done, did you ever see a president with more vacations, more
travel or more fun on his plate, it's all play and no work and the country is going to
hell in a handbasket.

[Joe for Clark]

9. Mom and Dad were there and that is a fact.

Many of our mothers and fathers were, dear.

I think old "w"'s father was a coward - and the guys son was worse than a coward.

I am old now dear, but if our country was at risk, I'd go, even today.

You know - it is the difference between ol "W" and the rest of us.

It really is - and so sad to say.

We were a very Catholic family. 2nd Generation. You had a choice - If you didn't inherit the money - you could be a priest or a soldier.

That was it.

So, we had a lot of priests and soldiers in my family.

I don't think I said it before, but uncle John is a Saint now - really.

The rest of my family were army officers.

And my kid is a pawn in the current game in fucking Iraq.

Maybe were fucked,

But I will not go down without a fight.

Joe

[MissWaverly]

10. thanks Joe, my grandfather came from County Mayo, Ireland

his parents and most of his siblings died on the banks of Steubenville, Ohio. Both my parents
worked as hard as they could for a decent life here. I never saw where either of them had a soft life either. Oh, Joe, I wish we coud just turn all this around. The American people
I know do not sit around thinking of ways to cheat the Indians like Jack Abramoff and so
many in power now.

[Joe for Clark]

14. I think too many of us were born on the banks of the Allegheny

or Ohio rivers.

Our parents worked so hard for us - so where the fuck are we ??

I was born in the Ohio river valley. I know where Steubenville is,God help me.

We are all the same now - all of us.

Even if we moved to the San Fernando Valley.

We KNOW our roots.

Joe

You know Miss Waverly - If they cheated they will get their asses kicked.
From Ohio State to Penn State to USC - they will get their asses kicked.

And I went to U of R -

God bless the Big Ten and the Pac Ten!!!!

Joe

[MissWaverly]

16. I hear you, Joe, I hope they will be held accountable

I think of my Dad, what an honest man he was, he lost his job because he would not change
his party registration as a Democrat, he would never be able to figure out these guys who
shave the truth into what can fit into a commercial.

[fearthem]

2. They hold themselves in such high esteem, they suffer from a mental....

abnormally, it's call Narcissism.

[MissWaverly]

5. yes, Narcissus and his mirror

his mirror is now called a "photo op"

[Joe for Clark]

6. I don't get it

What are you talking about.

Joe

[MissWaverly]

8. Joe, let me explain

Narcissus was a greek myth about a guy that loved only himself, he was the only one that mattered. That's what we are saying, you worked your job, did your bit to help the country,
but George has always looked for the easy way and doesn't do the job we need of a leader.
He's let us down, Joe, despite all those fancy clothes, and the fancy cars, he's a goldbrick.

[Joe for Clark]

12. MissWaverly -

You have nothing to explain to Me - not ever.

I am proud to stand with you.

God will bless us -

And I do think, maybe, we have an inside track.

I pray to him every night to get my boy the hell out of there.

You are ok with me, anytime!!


Joe

[MissWaverly]

13. Thanks Joe

Hope your boy makes it out of this mess okay, oh how I wish we had someone in the White House
like FDR.

[MissWaverly]

11. Joe, are you selling that book anywhere

I looked on Amazon, couldn't find it, there's a lot of books with that title but not any recent
ones.

[Joe for Clark]

15. Hi Miss Waverly -

It is on Amazon - I guess. Bastards said so - I never really checked!!

It is "On a Wing and a Prayer" - memories of a fighter pilot and a nurse in WWII"

I am the author - FMJ Pacheco. My name is Joe Pacheco. Dad's name was Fank, moms was Mary and I am Joe. - FMJ. I can sure authorize some frightening print things for our internet.

Scary. Scared me.

It is a psuedoymn. I really know that war - all my uncles started LT something....


I think the best and cheapest way to get to it is thru the publishers bookstore.

www.xlibras.com

If that doesn't work, PM me - I am not so happy with them in any event.

My Name is Joe.

I am at [e-mail].

[MissWaverly]

17. I bought your book Joe

it was a little pricey but since you put 5 years of your life into writing it; I figured it
was worth it.

[Joe for Clark]

18. I think they charge too much also.

But do let me know if you like it.

Joe

[MissWaverly]

19. I will certainly do so

I am looking forward to reading it.

:-)

[Joe for Clark]

20. When you get the book.

I don't know if you got it from amazon or boarders or the publisher. But I get a royaly - different rates. Really, I don't want it - not why I wrote it. So you can PM me from the publisher or I am here on DU sometimes, and I will be happy to send it back to you.

Thanks MissWaverly,

Joe

[MissWaverly]

21. Joe, keep the royalty you earned it

I got it from the publisher, look it's worth it, I like to "give a salute" to the efforts of
all of us here at "DU"

:-)

[Joe for Clark]

22. Its ok -

Whatever I may get goes to the VFW anyway. My promise to myself.

It is up to you MissWaverly - I am just as happy to give it back to you.

Anyway, It was never mine anyway - not to me. And that is what counts.

Joe

[MissWaverly]

23. Hey give it to the Vets, they need it more than me

if they don't need it at your local post, let them party with it, they earned it.

[Joe for Clark]

24. Good for you MissWaverly!

Joe

[MissWaverly]

25. thanks Joe

Did you hear about the GOP congressman who went over to Iraq and is calling from there saying
we should withdraw at least some troops. They should all be forced to go over there and see what it's like. Here's hoping that there will be a call for a drawdown.

[Joe for Clark]

26. Really??

They won't send their kids, though.

You have to believe in the country first. I don't think they do.

I guess it is a matter of belief.

Oh, damn - we are sending offensive units, like my kids group - I don't think, never did - that they were going back to Iraq to hold anything.

He didn't either.

Thank you for your kindness,


Joe

[MissWaverly]

27. Here, Joe, I saw this at lunch time, it's like it's been erased

Gutknecht gives grim assessment
War supporter says conditions in Iraq are worse than he expected
Published July 19, 2006 01:31 am - Congressman Gil Gutknecht found the situation in Iraq more bleak than he anticipated during a weekend visit to the war zone, and said a partial withdrawal of some American troops might be wise.

Gutknecht, a strong supporter of the war since it began in March of 2003, told reporters in a telephone conference call Tuesday that American forces appear to have no operational control of much of Baghdad.
“The condition there is worse than I expected,” he said. “... I have to be perfectly candid: Baghdad is a serious problem.”
The 1st District Republican said he was deeply impressed by the professionalism of American soldiers and gained hope from the more stabile situation in the Kurdish-dominated northern region of Iraq.
But he said the next six weeks could be critical in determining whether stability can eventually come to the rest of the country, and he believes removing some American troops is necessary to send the Iraqi government a message that it can’t rely so heavily on the American military much longer.

http://www.mankato-freepress.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_200013136.html

[Joe for Clark]

28. Thank You