Tweety is excited about a McCain-Guiliani ticket in '08

[WI_DEM]

I was flipping channels last night and stopped at the "Chris "Tweety" Matthews Show" when I saw he had Dan Rather on. Apparently there is a new poll showing that Guiliani is the leading candidate for the GOP nomination with 29% and McCain at 24%. Tweety was going on about how strong that ticket would be--McCain and Guiliani. Tweety said "9/11 was Guiliani's defining moment"--somebody else pointed out that he hasn't done anything in seven years except "promote himself." Tweety didn't care about that because his "heroics" during 9/11 was enough. Oddly, nobody mentioned his personal issues like they did with Bill Clinton all the time. Tweety even pointed out that unlike the Democrats who now want a "pure" candidate the Republicans--including evangelicals--are willing to over look some of Rudy's more liberal stands "because they want to win."

Everybody seemed to expect that Hillary, naturally, will be the Democratic nominee, but Rather did say that "somebody, maybe, Edwards might challenge her."

[LSparkle]

1. Tweety has totally come out of his closet -- he's a Repug

He let slip something last week about what "they" are doing to "my" party (meaning what the religious right is doing to the Repugs). Especially with his brother running for Lt. Gov. in PA (as a Thuglican), his '06 election coverage is bound to get REALLY unfair and unbalanced (even moreso than it has been, political crazycart that he is).

[AX10]

16. Tweets started his life as a working class white Repug in...

Phili. He only changed after JFK's assasination. Tweets was a loyal follower of JFK. Now that he's getting old, he going to back to his white Repug root.

[Norquist Nemesis]

2. He's been pushing Guiliani since November 3, 2004 n/t

[wordpix2]

18. CM always says R's his fave guy---how come Rudy never gets criticized for

his failures on 911 like the emergency services' communications problems that should have been worked out BEFORE a disaster? Hundreds of firemen lost their lives because they didn't get the message they should get out of the buildings. Doesn't the "hero" mayor deserve some of the blame for that? :shrug:

[gatorboy]

3. Speaking of Bubba...

He was also down a ground zero, wasn't he?

Maybe it's time for Bill to make a comeback. C'mon! There's gotta be a way to get him back in!

[WI_DEM]

4. his way of gettin' back in is thru Hillary

[gatorboy]

5. Eh.

Maybe we can figure some other way. :P

[flyarm]

6. enough of tweety..he is irrelevant..but nora whora is even more

irrelevant..thats why they put her on..turn that creep off..you give him the ratings he needs to survive...

shut him down..

fly

[WI_DEM]

11. I don't give him ratings. Neilsen households do.

I never watch him regularly.

[Joe for Clark]

7. Matthews does not deserve the post,

It is a waiste of good hard drive space.

Joe

[fishwax]

8. i highly doubt evangelicals will be willing to "overlook" rudy's

stands in favor of choice and gay rights. The evangelicals hate Giuliani. If they are forced to accept a McCain candidacy, they will insist on a running mate who is further to the right. If they are faced with the prospect of a Giuliani candidacy, they will put all their resources into stopping it. I don't see this ticket happening without the serious marginalization of the religious right.

[WI_DEM]

12. they said this poll had him leading among evangelicals more

popular with them than McCain is.

[Zynx]

17. Evangelicals will not vote for a pro-gay, pro-choice candidate.

:eyes:

[fishwax]

21. well, I'd have to see the poll, but

I don't think the heavyweights in the evangelical movement will support Rudy because he is pro-choic and pro-gay rights. Maybe, at this point, he could be polling ahead of McCain, even among evangelicals, but once the primaries are actually underway and his stances are publicized and the leaders fo the religious right take their shots at his record, I think that number would drop significantly.

If Rudy were actually somehow able to win the nomination, it would represent a substantial shift leftward on social issues for the GOP. I'd love to see that kind of leftward shift from the right, but I really don't see it happening.

[wordpix2]

19. don't forget Rudy's extramarital affair leading to his divorce

[Neecy]

9. Tweety has a massive mancrush on Rudy

I swear he almost squirms in his chair just saying his name.

He now evenly divides his show into segments promoting Guiliani and segments of obsessive Hillary-bashing. What a yawnfest.

[bluestateguy]

10. Both of whom probably won't run

nt

[Cosmocat]

13. He is trying his hardest ...

to set up a Hillary as the unwinnable dem candidate, and Guiliani as the next great republican ...

JESUS CHRISTMAS, will the republican party EVER stop using 9-11 to it's advantage ... It is bad enough that Bushco and this congress have made it ALL about 9-11 for the last 5 years, there was the DIM light at the end of the tunnel that maybe 2008 would be a time when the country was not held hostage to ... But now ...

Just as they used 9-11 to keep this idiot in office, you have Guiliani, who was a fairly beleugered mayor, and not overly popular with the republican party when his alarm clock went off on 9-11-01, who they have morphed into the "hero" of 9-11 ... I battled some blockhead on a nother board about this ... The talking point is how Rudy "save lives" on 9-11 ... I am like, GOOD GOD, he didn't save life one that day ... It was all doing it on the fly, the BRAVE firefighters/police and all who, without concern for themselves, went into the building ...

It just is MINDBENDING, the way the republican party can take a crap on the actual heros in this country while making nobody's who did nothing into heros ... Guilina simply did what 1000 other mayors would have done that day ... Didn't break down and got his hands dirty ...

[wordpix2]

20. Rudy didn't have effective emergency communications systems in his city

Police couldn't talk to firemen, firemen didn't get messages and so on. Big issue with 911 Commission as I recall.

[rocktivity]

14. Works for me

All we'd have to do is cast McCain as the GOP's next unstable flip-flopper, and Rudy as the neo-Cheney real power behind the throne!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Penndems]

15. McCain is one of the GOP Presidential prospects who's bought

and paid for:

Landing Big Campaign Finance Fish (July 8th, 2006):
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2006/07/hunting_b...

Landing a "Whale" for 2008 (July 11th, 2006, second blog entry, updated list of donors): http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix /
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2008 GOP front-runners and their big-money contributors:

John McCain
Wayne Berman, lobbyist (D.C.) RANGER
Fred Malek, Thayer Capital Partners (D.C.)
Carter Pate, PricewaterhouseCoopers (D.C./Texas) RANGER
Bob Mosbacher, Mosbacher Energy Co. (Texas)
Tom Loeffler, lobbyist (Texas) RANGER

Mitt Romney
Peter Karmanos, Compuware Corp. (Mich.)
David Fischer, Suburban Collection (Mich.) PIONEER
John Rakolta, Walbridge Aldinger (Mich.) RANGER
Dave Phillips, Phillips Industries (N.C.) RANGER
Tom Tellefsen, Tellefsen Investments (Calif.) PIONEER
Anne Dunsmore, Capital Campaigns (Calif.) RANGER
Hadi Makarechian, Capital Pacific Holdings (Calif.)
Herb Collins, Boston Capital Partners (Mass.) PIONEER
Jim Sims (MA) GEN3Partners (Mass.)
Joe O'Donnell (MA), Boston Culinary Group (Mass.) RANGER
Tom Foley, NTC Corp. (Conn.) PIONEER
Eric Tanenblatt, McKenna Long Aldridge (Ga.) RANGER

Bill Frist
Zachariah Zachariah, cardiologist (Fla.) RANGER
Ken Eldred, Living Stones Foundation (Calif.)
Michael Lebovitz, CBL & Associates Partners (Tenn.) RANGER
Jim Haslam, Pilot Oil Co. (Tenn.) RANGER
Chip Saltsman, former Tennnessee state party chairman (Tenn.) RANGER
Ted Welch, Ted Welch Investments (Tenn.) RANGER
Jeff McWaters, Amerigroup Corp. (Va.) PIONEER
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Rudy Giuliani is "fishing" for big-money donors.

[butterfly77]

22. This tweety bitch has been campaigning for guliani for weeks now...

he gets downright angry when someone disagrees. He believes because he was the mayor of new york and killed a lot of blacks. He can control america he will have a problem with his nutty new wife won't he.

[saltpoint]

23. McCain has betrayed himself long go and Giuliani is a gangster.

I can't stand either one of 'em.

Senator Clinton has clout and plenty of dough, but many other Democrats want the top job also.

My guess is we'll be hearing from quite a few worthy contenders in the coming year and a half before the evening of the Iowa caucuses in winter 2008.