What if Armageddon is here and Christ doesn't come?

[Erika]

The fundies are salivating that now is the end of times with the mideast situation and W was God's chosen leader to bring us to this point.

What if all that happens is that a well funded Israel further decimates its third world neighbors. Is their righteousness in that? Is their Christ's forgiveness in that?

And where is Christ? I doubt if He will come to rescue those who are slaughtering innocents.

[lonestarnot]

1. No man knows what hour. And I shall not cast my pearls to the

swine, but he will, I promise. Flame'n me over this will not make any fucking difference to me. Be my guest.

[TexasChick]

47. No, you're right, lonestarnot. He is coming. But, don't we have

to be in like a one-world government by then with a one-world currency before he comes, and don't weird things need to be happening in the sky? These people are retards. No one knows when he will come. Jesus said he didn't know, that only the Father himself knew.

[BeTheChange]

84. It all depends on which literal way you take it..

and how literally you take it.

Some say NATO or the UN satisfy the one world government.. some say gold is the currency even though many nations abandoned that standard decades ago..

We don't know the day and hour, but we were told to be aware of the signs. So alot of Christians have a feeling one way or another as to what happens during the "End- Times". People considered Fundamentalist Christians by DUers are more then likely pre or mid tribulation rapture believers. So when things like this happen with Israel they get a bit antsy. It is nothing new for Christians, Muslims or Jews of each generation to feel that the end is near.

Get back to me if Israel blows up Damascus and I'll tell you my theory. ;)

[coalition_unwilling]

92. Yawn -- check out millenial fever around year 1K and you'll

see many parallels to this current "End Days" fascination. Same types of hysteria were prevalent in Europe in Middle Ages.

[TexasChick]

106. Thanks, BeTheChange, I like your answer!

:hug:

I'm Christian, just not radical, I cuss, etc. But, there's one thing and that is I believe in Christ, but I don't feel he's on his way just yet. Things are certainly getting "heated up" though.

[Sapphocrat]

95. Yeah, and what about the Mark of the Beast?

Will somebody please remind these nutbags that they can still buy and sell without having 666 (or maybe it's 616) etched into their hands, or however it goes?

P.S. Not a believer here, but I always figured if there ever was anything to this Mark of the Beast stuff, it already happened, a long time ago:

[RawMaterials]

97. credit cards/ ss number/ are the mark of the beast

and debt is the one world currency IMHO.

[Sapphocrat]

99. Not good enough.

With all due respect, Raw, we must adhere to strict biblical literalism. The literalists set the rules, so I want to make sure to play by those rules:

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

-- Revelation 13:16-17

Hey, they're their rules, not mine! O8)

[RawMaterials]

101. I guess we have to wait for the RFID chips due

out in the next couple of years, to replace credit cards and passports.

[Sapphocrat]

103. Bingo!

But they'd still have to be implanted into our heads and/or hands.

(Personally, I think something has been implanted into these whackjobs' heads. Sayyyyyy, whatever became of all those people who underwent the CIA LSD experiments from the 1940s through the 1960s? Hmmmmm!)

[VolcanoJen]

2. Are you being serious?

Because, seriously, that "W was God's chosen leader to bring us to this point" terrifies me.

Are fundies saying such things? I just got off my shift... and I'm really caught a little off guard by that, even and especially in light of today's events.

Wow.

[Erika]

5. 100% Serious n/t

[VolcanoJen]

9. Well, then, no pun intended, but...

... holy crap. Jesus.

That is just plain mad.

[AngryOldDem]

82. Jen, if you haven't already, check out this thread...

...and click on the link provided. Some REAL eye-opening stuff there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1620096#1626916

:crazy: :scared:

Yep...it's party time in Holy Roller Land.

[Lars39]

8. Yes.

[Kutjara]

3. They'll just shift their fanaticism to the next 'signs' and 'portents.'

Almost since Christianity began, some group or other has believed that the End Times were nigh. Huge millenial cults grew up in the year 1000, with a large proportion of Europe believing that Christ would be coming 'real soon now,' but there's always been some bunch of lamebrains who've used excessive credulity and poor reading comprehension to concoct some 'Scriptural' justification for it really happening 'this time.'

It's all part of the 'cake tomorrow' message of Christianity.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. yep. I'm reading The Source by Michener...

and the rabble following the false Pope just passed by the gates of the Castle of Gretz gathering converts to march with him...

"The people of Gretz listened in wonder as he told them that they could be saved from the impending end of the world only if they marched with him. Listening to his wild words Count Volkmar became more convinced that the man must be avoided, and he led his family back through the ranks of his own townsmen until he was safe within the city wall. "Let none of that mob enter Gretz" he commanded the guards."

1105 C.E.

[Erika]

17. W and the new mega churches

I much prefer the literal Jehovah Witness interpretation that only 144,000 will be raised into the heavens. Anchovie lovers, or who?

[NoPasaran]

51. Mmmmm, Anchovies!

So long, heathen!

[Ilsa]

64. It always amazes me that they keep trying to recruit more competition

for themselves if that is what they believe. I guess they get extra points for recruitment.

[guinivere]

108. He who eateth of the anchovy shall be raised into heaven.

Those who disdain the anchovy will be left behind to mop up.




Or maybe just 144,000 random folks.

[itzamirakul]

78. I read that book several times back in the late 60s, I think...It is

truly fascinating. I need to read it again.

[MikeNY]

4. Danger of religion...

This is great.. the end times! Jesus is coming! Lets encourage it!

...

Humans will make themselves extinct, but the world won't end.. our species will.

[Erika]

12. No, No, No

Study your Biblical prophecy. Book of Revelation's.

There will be a final war of good against evil.

Anyway, the stage is set, and Christ isn't yet on the scene.

[MikeNY]

19. Sorry, not buying it...

Just say you're right, the end of the world is coming... the only thing happening right now is the loss of innocent life for no reason. If we don't try to prevent it we are at fault. Justify more innocent people dying because its the "end times". That garbage has been going on since 30 AD...

[lapfog_1]

26. I don't normally comment on religious stuff

but the Book of Revelations should never have made it into the bible.

It's the rantings of a disturbed hermit who lived in a cave on a Greek Island.

He was not an apostle, he lived 100 years after the time of Christ.

The eastern orthodox church does not include this text, and the western church included it most likely because it's was/is used to scare the bejeebus out of (or into) people.

Just as it is being used today by fundies.

[Erika]

32. Thank you. I did not know that n/t

[Spider Jerusalem]

39. And there's a school of thought among scholars...

that John of Patmos was probably all fucked up on psychedelic drugs (specifically the amanita muscaria mushroom) when he wrote it, too.

Not to mention the following (sourced from Wikipedia):

Martin Luther considered Revelation to be "neither apostolic nor prophetic" and stated that "Christ is neither taught nor known in it".

In the 4th century, St. John Chrysostom and other bishops argued against including this book in the New Testament canon, chiefly because of the difficulties of interpreting it and the danger for abuse.

[saltpoint]

85. Thank you. One of my neighbors is a rabid fundamentalist Christian

and would NOT care for your viewpoint but for what it's worth, I loved it.

[lastliberalintexas]

74. Biblical scholars will also tell you that Revelations was specific

to the Roman Empire, not the fall of humankind. And it almost wasn't included, and should not have been.

[Sapphocrat]

96. And it worked like a charm for Charlie Manson, too. n/t

[guinivere]

110. So they are basing the whole Rapture thing on the ranting

hallucinations of a hermit wasted on shrooms?



Hmm...I guess the fundy in charge didn't thoroughly check this out.

[The Straight Story]

113. Actually, there are several books that it is all based off - OT & NT

Daniel, the gospels, Isaiah, Ezekiel, and many others.

[tenshi816]

35. Trouble is,

all sides consider themselves to be good. Will we be able to buy programs for the final showdown so we'll know who the good guys are? All of the various combatants think God is on their side.

[dkofos]

93. yes I am

[Bake]

104. Revelation. No "s" on the end, no apostrophes.

Pet peeve of mine. The full title (in the KJV) is The Revelation to St. John the Divine. In Greek it's just "The Apocalypse."

Just call it the Book of Revelation, or just Revelation.

Bake

[sagesnow]

6. Darn! Did I miss it?

After the Rapture, we get to keep all their stuff!! Woot! :-)

[progressivebydesign]

11. I have my eye on a nice SUV owned by the fundy down the street..

when she gets swooped up, I have first dibs!! woo hoo!

[cali]

7. What if humans

ceased mindless speculation?

[Erika]

21. then they couldn't be used politically n/t

[progressivebydesign]

10. Oh fuck.. someone PLEASE post that photo of Bush in the lab coat..

PLEASE!! That should stop any talk of Bush being the chosen one for ANYTHING but village idiot.

Don't those idiots realize that it's religion that is causing all of this.. and they are NOT going to live in heaven if they blow the shit out of the world? They become compost for the next round of organisms... I hear the cockroaches will survive, though. So, perhaps that's what the Bible meant about the saved ones.. the cockroaches that survive the nuclear blasts that their "chosen one", the idiot, hath wraught on us.

[Erika]

15. I enjoy the visual of W leading the cockroaches

"i just knew there was a reason why I said Jesus was my greatest philosopher" He loves cockroaches.

[Buns_of_Fire]

38. Welcome to the Camp, I guess you all know why we're here...

[Richard Steele]

57. "The same thing we do EVERY night, Pinky!"

[MamaBear]

79. He became aware last year?

Whoda thunk? :shrug:

[Buns_of_Fire]

100. Yep. Put on your eyeshades, put in your earplugs,

You know where to put the cork! :evilgrin:

[lonestarnot]

13. Poor thing! You made the wrong post here.

Hold onto your shorts; you're in for a rough ride.

[hopeisaplace]

14. What if Christ is really Criss Angel (Mind freak)

sorry no offense meant...was watching him the other day,
walking on water...and couldn't help but think..jokes on
us. (lol)

[Cleita]

18. I have a problem with the concept of end times.

Does it mean the end of the planet or just of humanity? I mean have these loons thought this out? The end of the world in the Bible I think refers to a time when the planet is no longer with us. Now since it seems like millenium before the planet and sun are ready to go bye-bye, there is no reason for humanity to go as long as there is a planet to sustain us. So why are they so hopped up on having destructive nuclear type wars to end every living thing on the planet? Honestly, I don't care that much about humanity anymore, but why should all the birds and beasts have to suffer because we were given the gift of superior intelligence and only know how to use it to create disasters.

[Erika]

20. Righteous people want to see others suffer hell

in the end of times. Kind of an oxymoron. Righteous want others to suffer?

It's a myth Rove has played beautifully.

[DELUSIONAL]

22. Amazing that after all these years people still believe in the B.S.

this is mythology -- made up crap -- stories to keep the masses in line.

These stories worked with ignorant fools and they are working with "modern" ignorant fools.

So there is a heaven -- where do people shit?

The whole logistics of heaven -- is just dumb.

Life isn't so great here --- but want until you get to heaven -- you can do everything you always wanted to do -- except sex doesn't exist in heaven -- no need for sex because the population of heaven doesn't increase due to new babies -- which come from hot sweaty sex.

The is no logical way that heaven exists -- especially the heaven of the christian variety.

So o.k. god figured out the people need to crap because they eat -- so heaven is for beings of light. So people just float around -- doing what? Talking?? Oh really?? Some of the people who think they have a place in heaven -- well I wouldn't want to be anywhere near them.

Nope -- no way there isn't a heaven.

Anyway I rejected my fundie mother's version of heaven when she said that cats and dogs weren't going to be in heaven.

Cats and dogs not in heaven!! No way do I want to go to her version of heaven.

It is up to us to use the time we have on this earth wisely. -- This is a paraphrase from Lord of the Rings.

If people lived with this simple idea -- this world would be a lot more peaceful.

Oh and get religion out of politics -- religion + politics is the greatest threat to peace we have.

O.K. . . . now I'm going to watch Lord of the Ring for the XXXX time.

[Erika]

31. Exactly

And so it goes. The fundies who thought W was the one to lead us into the end are going to be disappointed when it only turns out to be more misery and more warfare with nothing Godly about it.

They may even enlighten themselves.

[ChickMagic]

68. I haven't been able to get a fundy to explain

how a soul can burn.

[DELUSIONAL]

89. oh as in "souls burn in hell"

I don't think they can -- because the fundies don't have a fully developed concept of an after life.

I'll have to remember that question for the next fundie I meet.

Souls burn in hell -- ha ha by their theory souls are not combustible.

[ChickMagic]

90. Exactly

I ask them at what temperature a soul could possibly burn.

[Sapphocrat]

98. You forgot one.

I think the Mormons believe that they get to become demi-gods and create their own mini-universes to rule over. Something like that.

As far as I can see, that's the only advantage of Mormonism: At least they'll have some entertainment after death.

[undergroundpanther]

23. Armegeddon=narcissism

Help destroy for jesus and you get to be a priest king of heaven trampling your enemies like clay pots forever.

[Erika]

33. It is a touch sick, isn't it? n/t

[1monster]

24. Tell me, if you were Jesus, would you want to take all of those who

so loudly proclaim to be christians to your eternal home? The very idea sounds a lot like Jean-Paul Sartre's vision of Hell from his play NO EXIT.

In the year 7510
If God's acomin'
He ought to make it by then.
Maybe He'll look around and say
"Guess it's time for the Judgment Day

In the year 8510
God is gonna shake his mighty head
He'll either say I'll leave where man has been
Or tear it down and start again.
Wooooeeeooo
Zagar and Evens IN THE YEAR 2525

[pitohui]

25. heh heh are you familiar w. damon knight?

he had a short story where god finally gets around to coming back and there is nothing but some sands blowing around the glassed-in planet and finally he comes to a big sign, we were here, where were you?

[pitohui]

36. update: shall the dust praise thee? is the name of the story

the wickipedia summary of the story is delicious: God arrives for the apocalypse, but humanity is a no-show.


it's quite the opposite, god missed the apocalypse, oopsy!

[longship]

27. The Traveler is coming!!

During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar. Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you.

[Ringo84]

28. I think we're overreacting

This may only be an isolated incident. Nothing may come out of it at all.

Even if something does, it doesn't necessarily follow that the apocalypse is coming. We most likely have decades (perhaps even millenia) left here. I don't buy "imminent apocalypse because of one event" theory.
Ringo

[Sapphocrat]

102. Ringo, the nuns used to tell us...

...that as soon as anybody pinpoints a time for The End, God probably changes it.

Made sense to me -- after all, if I were God, and I said, "Nobody will ever know when I'm going to do XYZ," and somebody did figure it out, I'd move the goalposts, too.

(No, I'm not being flip! LOL)

[Ringo84]

117. Hi, Sapphocrat!

You're absolutely right. And no, I don't think you're a "flip-flopper".
:toast:
Ringo

[Kip Humphrey]

29. A Jesuit told me the secret of Armageddon i 1972

He said, "Revelations is a time bomb waiting for the technology to enable true believers to make it a reality". He said it was the most dangerous book ever written.

I agree with him. Now that the world has the enabling technologies, the Rapturists, manipulated as they have been by Tim LeHaye (the same man who organized the take-over of the RNC, BTW), hell-bent as they are to initiate worldwide destruction, are the greatest evil and biggest threat to mankind the world has yet seen.



My message to all Rapturists: Tim LeHaye is a False Prophet.

[treestar]

80. They condemn the Muslims for suicide bombings, but their

ultimate suicide-all-all-mankind pales in comparison to that.

[Nikki Stone 1]

30. Damn! Christ is not coming? And I made a cake and everything.

Guess I could always freeze it.


:party:

[jerry611]

34. You wouldn't believe my co-worker's idea about Christ's return

She thinks that one day Jesus will come back and take all his followers to heaven and leave everyone else here. Then everyone is going to know that god truely exists and will be sorry they didn't believe.

And she is 100% convinced that the earth is only 4,000 years old. There is nothing you can say or do to convince her otherwise.

[zcflint09]

37. Wish she was right...

wouldn't that be fun?

[wagthedogwar]

40. Allah U Akbar baby

Hey, it's easier to beleive all the booga booga then to take personal responsibility--like being an informed citizen and voting on real issues...many of these so called *xtians are just lazy and stupid and just use religion to justify their own prejudices.

*applies to all religions

I say burn your bibles and Korans and wake the fuck up

[PassingFair]

58. I've got one of those at work.

Every time she starts up, I get up and LOUDLY state
that I DON'T LISTEN TO HATE SPEECH.

People know by now what will happen if she's in
one of her moods (and I LIKE the crazy woman).

I tell her she has a right to believe what she
wants, but I have a right to walk away from her
DEATH CULT rantings.

I HATE the attitude of self-righteous,
revealed religion rascals.

RRRRrrrrrrrr.

[AngryOldDem]

83. That's a pretty standard interpretation of the Rapture

I remember hearing that in the fundie church I was forced to attend as a kid.

Those of us left will be on our own to fight it out.

And by the way, the whole concept of the "Rapture" has **no** Biblical reference and is a concoction that is a little over 100 years old, invented back in the 1890s by a preacher trying to lead a flock. I know -- what a surprise.

[guinivere]

111. You know, that's the other thing I don't get.

The "we'll be left to fight it out" part. What if nobody that is left WANTS to fight? What the hell would anyone be fighting about. :shrug:

[NMMNG]

41. This will sound harsh but it's the truth

The fundies are salivating that now is the end of times with the mideast situation and W was God's chosen leader to bring us to this point.


The fundies are complete effing idiot whackjobs, plain and simple. There is no "rapture" mentioned in the book of Revelation, never was. Some fool made that up in the 1800's. The people who are working to put this absurd fantasy into action are working to destroy our world for something that doesn't exist.


They think they're going to get some great reward in Heaven for doing all of this. Funny, doesn't that sound just like the motivations of the terrorists who rammed planes into the WTC and the Pentagon? And to think people hated them for what they did and called their religion evil. How ironic.

[greyl]

61. Similar delusions are held by many new-agers and faith salad types,

which I'm sure you're aware of. Escapist bullshit touting new vibrations and dimensions brought on by alignment of planets and critical mass of consciousness etc etc.
They've got their own little left-behind/taken-above myths, too. ;)

[NMMNG]

112. True

But are they actively killing tens of thousands and destroying billions in property to promote their whacky delusions?

[malaise]

42. As long as the lunatic fundies go

who cares. Since they all want Armageddon, I wonder why the crazy voices in their heads don't lead them to a beach on the Atlantic coast as a Cat 5 approaches. They could walk behind their Pied Pipers, Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Reed and dissappear quietly with the waves. That would be my Rapture.

[bdamomma]

53. these people who believe in this stuff are crazy, and delusional

excuse me, but why wish the end of world when some of us cherish life. Geez, these people are delusional and sick, right they should just line up and put their hands in the air and say take me, yea, someone would take them alright, right to mental institution.

[malaise]

56. Why waste funds on them

let them try walking on water (waves).

[H2O Man]

43. The "end times" ......

The bibical writings describe an internal, psychological process. If a person wants to find Jesus in the world today, he is exactly where he said he could be found: in the jails, in poor neighborhoods, in neglected children, in abused adults, in the hungry people, in the victims of the Bush-Cheney aggression in Iraq. But if a person is looking for that power which the bible describes as having the power to save, they must look inside. This is confirmed by Ephesians 1:19-20, which states, "This power in us is the same as the mighty strength which God used when he raised Christ from death."

[enigmacat]

45. This is why so many who are waiting for Christ will never see him.

Good post.

[CJCRANE]

48. You don't expect

the religious people to actually read their holybooks do you?

All the scriptures I've read (of whatever religion) always make great play about not being a hyprocrite, not showing off your worship, being humble, helping the poor etc etc.

The only thing that motivated Jesus to physical violence was the money-changers in the temple when he knocked over their tables...

IMHO, it's time for the liberal religious people to grow a backbone and shove the truth of their scriptures in the face of the fundies, take back the high ground in a forceful (but fair) manner.

[H2O Man]

49. I think that

the people who are advocating a religious war here and abroad could read the bible a thousand times, and not have a clue what it says. I think it is similar to someone who is color-blind looking at a picture, but not seeing what the artist intended. The religious right is, by and large, morally blind. The minister who compared Ken Lay to Martin and Jesus is a prime example of that blindness.

I agree 100% with you on the obligation that people of faith have to counter the ugliness of the religious right. The example of Jesus evicting the money-changers from the temple was one of Minister Malcolm X's favorite stories from the bible. I think we should consider the examples of Martin and Malcolm today.

[enigmacat]

44. If I were Christ...

...I wouldn't want to come back to deal with this mess.

[Kutjara]

46. I think he was waaay ahead of you.

About 2,000 years ahead. I can imagine the disciples saying "Oh Lord, the tribulations of the world vex us greatly. Thou must save us from the suffering and strife that afflict us and lay us low. All humanity is wretched and only Thy power can ease our pain." To which Christ replied, "Erm, OK. I'll tell you what I'll do. You all wait here, and I'll go have a word with my Dad and then I'll be right back with eternal peace and bountious food and top-notch vino and stuff, and everything'll be fab and groovy again, m'kay?" Then he legged it "heavenwards" and hasn't given us a backward glance since.

Face it folks, we got ditched.

[bdamomma]

54. if he did he would turn around and go back

[Bzzzz]

87. Well...

supposedly he could make all of this go away, but he must be sadistic.:evilgrin:

[Vinca]

50. If Christ doesn't appear for the fundies,

it will be the best "gotcha" ever.

[Efilroft Sul]

71. When Christ comes back and preaches his message of love...

...the Fundies will be the first to try and nail his holy ass back to a cross.

[bdamomma]

52. I remember a saying:

"too much religion can make a person a stupid".

apparently there are many stupid people out there.

[DoYouEverWonder]

55. Christ is here

but it's a secret.

The problem is most people are lead to believe that christ is something outside of themselves. More and more people are waking up and realizing that christ is already in them. That christ is not something that you have to go through someone else to get to. That's what the 2nd coming is going to be about.

[greyl]

59. ...and Jews? nt

[DoYouEverWonder]

63. It's just a form of energy

the Jews might call it something else but it's all the same thing.

[greyl]

66. Oh lord.

Mind if I call it Santa Claus?

[DoYouEverWonder]

70. Is Santa Claus

inside of you?

If he is can I sit on your lap so you can give me presents?

[greyl]

72. If Santa Claus were inside of me,

I'd keep it to myself! As should everyone who is religious.

[itzamirakul]

81. Why should anyone who believes that he/she has Christ inside

need to keep it to themselves? It might be news that they want to share with others who understand what that means.

Christ is the Awakened Spirit...not necessarly the man Jesus...but partaking of the same Spirit...not based on religion but on the inner awareness...

[annabanana]

105. ..everyone has the spirit inside..

and by their fruits shall ye know them! No one has to say a thing.

[deaniac21]

60. Their is a pronoun.

[greyl]

62. The sentence still almost works, though.

"Their" christ as opposed to all the other real ones. Ya know? ;)

[Imperialism Inc.]

65. He was already supposed to return 2000 years ago.

Matthew 16:24-28 Then Jesus told his disciples, "If any want to become my followers, let them deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For those who want to save their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will find it. For what will it profit them if they gain the whole world but forfeit their life? Or what will they give in return for their life? For the Son of Man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay everyone for what has been done. Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

Not a very prompt fellow that Jesus.

[Hugin]

67. It's always amazed me the so-called end-of-timers always ignore this

Amazing... Simply amazing.

Talk about cafeteria style religion.

[ChickMagic]

69. Are we supposed to leave out cookies and milk

and hay for Rudolph?

[alarimer]

73. it won't happen

there is no such thing as Armageddon and Christ will not be returning ever. A lot of religious hogwash is all that is. The real cause of all this war in the Middle East is religion. A perfect example of why religion is so wrong- it makes people hate the "other". Look at Bosnia, Ireland or what is happening now. The Bible is a collection of fairy tales. No tribe is more important than another. There is no "chosen people".

[kentuck]

75. He's probably too depressed with the killing...

would be my guess.

[jackstraw45]

76. Maybe they'll all go straight to #100?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1617618&mesg_id=1617618

# 100. Mass suicide.

[freedomforumadmin]

77. Armageddon

I have always maintained that US support of Israel will lead to the end of the world.

The wheels are turning now.

[Bzzzz]

86. How About...

there will be no armageddon and there is no christ???

[genie_weenie]

88. Remember we are well into armageddon.

It started in 1914. So we are the midst of the 1000 year reign of the Anti-Christ. You must understand the biblical readers couldn't relate the future with 100% alacrity. So their misunderstanding of the AC is easy to explain. The AC morphs and transfers his soul into other vessels (Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Bush) Once you realize that the rest is easy!

So, sometime in the late 2900s Christ will reappear and render this world asunder, and then unfortunately explain that the Janists had it right all along...

[coalition_unwilling]

91. God is Santa Claus for adults (n/t)

[Zhade]

94. As he may never have existed, I hope they don't hold their breath.

Actually, on second thought, I DO! :D

[mnhtnbb]

107. Bush is the anti-Christ

www.bushisantichrist.com

[im10ashus]

109. Well, I am not a rapture-type guy.

But IF he's going to come and take these nutjobs, then I wish he'd hurry up. Then we can get on with life.

[Iniquitous Bunny]

114. They need to focus on The Beatitudes instead.

Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."


Gospel of Matthew 5:3-10


Call me whatever, but I'll never stop being skeptical of those who use religion to suit political agendas. It's been used since war began and it's responsible for more pain and more deaths than anything else. Let's look at what Christ taught in regard to how we treat our fellow man. It is not pain and death. George W. Bush and his followers are the antithesis of how Christ taught us to live and what is important.

However, we are not required to follow ANY interpretation of Christianity in our foreign policy since we do not live in a theocracy!!! I want my Constitution back!

[RagAss]

115. think the earth gives a shit if there's any people on it???

the other planets in our solar system are doing pretty well without any.....

[MzNov]

116. then somebody should call Anita Baker

she'll sing Rapture and everything will be OK again