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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:32 AM
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Lieberman = Independant? 'republican conservative' has become...
a meaningless term, as has compassionate conservatism. the words 'liberal' & 'progressive' have been allowed to become marginalized so as to be functionally meaningless as well...

when Lieberman states by way of ego driven hubris; his intent to run as an 'independent', has he stated his intent instead...to debase one of the last pieces of political ground upon which innocent people could stand

the democrats have been very good to him...does he understand his contribution to the drift in america today
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 10:12 AM
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1. LIEberman is NO Independent, even though he might run as one...
he's a neocon sock-puppet, nothing more.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 11:55 AM
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2. yup...
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:28 PM
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8. Do neocon sock-puppets vote for increasing the minimum wage?
Do neocon sock-puppets work to curb global warming?

Do neoconn sock-puppets work to improve mental health services for vets?

That's 3 questions to get started with...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 03:52 PM
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9. not necessarily, but they DO support the unPATRIOTic Act, and the illegal
invasion of Iraq, which trumps all that stuff you just mentioned, IMO.

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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:01 PM
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12. I hear ya. nt
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:04 PM
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3. Lieberman is a smarmy neocon of the Perle ilk, who just happened
to stay in the Democratic party in more than name only. Perle and Wolfowitz both claim Democratic party affiliation, even though the policies they advocate bear no relationship to those held by the party rank and file. Lieberman styles himself as "bipartisan," a word I now define as code for "sellout" of basic principles of their constitutency. Working toward common ground means more than sitting on the same committees and nodding in agreement. I thoroughly distrust any Dem pol who now speaks this way. I digress. Lieberman is out for himself and whatever lobby he would embrace at the moment.
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:07 PM
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4. (dupe)
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 12:10 PM by Mugsy
sorry.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:11 PM
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6. whoopsy...
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 12:11 PM by bridgit
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:09 PM
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5. Explaining Joe.
"Must Go Joe" said he would run as "a Petitioning Democrat". Here is what that means...

In Joe's mind, an extremely vocal minority of "Far Left" radical Democrats should not be allowed to decide who is on the ballot in November. He has stated that, "If every Democrat just came out to vote in the primary", he'd win easily.

So he has decided that if he loses the primary, he'll get on the ballot as an Indy, then just switch Party's back to Democrat after the election... in much the same way Jeffords (VT) switched from (R) to (I) in 2002 without needing to hold new elections.

Problem with this thinking though is that "Must Go Joe" is assuming that it is only a *minority* of Democrats that are voting against him. If the turnout for the Primaries is large and he still loses, then that would only disprove his assertion that only a "vocal minority" doesn't want him, and he should therefore drop out of the race and take his loss like a man. But Joe won't do that. He is convinced that only "radicals" don't agree with him... that is what makes them "radical".

Sound familiar? Standard Neo-Con reasoning.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:12 PM
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7. playing fast & loose with political symbols while circumventing the...
will of registered voters i believe to be a republican/neocon mindset yes
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 03:54 PM
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10. The problem is, he HASN'T said he'll run as an "Independent". He still
wants the mantle and support of the DEMOCRATIC party, so he claims he'll be running as a "petitioning Democrat".
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:19 PM
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13. THIS is what needs to be emphasized... he's running as a "petitioning...
... Democrat", not as an independent. Seems like a tactic that Rove would approve of... and one that might be used to dismantle the Democratic Party.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:25 PM
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14. there it is, whether 'liberal' 'petitioning dem' 'conservative' the lines
are made diffuse as a ruse imo to circumvent voter will while not having to take responsibility for the various & unpalatable votes that may have lost a politico his/her popularity...it is to simply step around

maybe it's easy being cheesy afterall
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 04:03 PM
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11. It's Überman!
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 04:03 PM by Call Me Wesley
It's a Democrat!
It's a Republican!
No! It's Überman!


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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:26 PM
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15. heehee...
:-)
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