court exempts Tobacco companies of ALL LIABILITY.. so no product can have

[sam sarrha]

any liability now.. no one can beat Big Tobacco's murder rate

tobacco kills about 140 times more people every year than have been killed in Iraq since it started. and about 90% of tobacco addicts were addicted as children

so since there can now be no liability for any product, i guess Weed will now have to be made legal because there has never been a death attributed to it.

http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

1. Now, channel that rage into the RNC, the war or poverty...

Smoking's a choice, people will make bad ones forever. There's plenty of things out there that we have more control and influence over.

[merwin]

2. Crack is a choice as well. Doesn't mean that it's not insanely addictive.

Taking down the tobacco industry would be a huge blow to the Republican party.

The key is not to go after the individuals in the party, but to go after it at the roots... the evil people funding them.

Take down the religious extremists, the tobacco industry, and the oil industry, and they're left without a base.

Big goal, but those three things will take out the entire party. Take out one individual in the party and they just replace him with another groomed idiot ready to be a mouthpiece.

[Spider Jerusalem]

4. Yes, crack is a choice...so is heroin, and alcohol, et cetera.

But...at this point, there's been enough money spent on education and prevention that anyone who's started smoking in the past twenty years or so knows that tobacco is more addictive than heroin, and knows that smoking causes many painful and deadly diseases. You can't just shift the blame for poor decisions off of the shoulders of the people who made those decisions.

Besides which, I seem to recall a similar attempt to eliminate an industry that was held responsible for ruining millions of lives; Prohibition, it was called--and not only did it fail miserably, but it created a massive black market, which was serviced by organised crime, who stepped into the vacuum left by the absence of legitimate distillers and liquor distributors. Anyone who doubts the same thing will happen with tobacco is delusional. And as it stands now, tobacco excise taxes are a significant source of state and federal revenues, which are used in part to pay for things like Medicaid (which is not a bad thing, considering how frayed the fabric of the social services in this country is).

[sam sarrha]

10. few choices kill half a million people, and addiction is choice-less.. that

is the definition of addition.. out of control

[ima_sinnic]

3. if smoking is so addictive and deadly, why do so many CHOOSE it?

I smoked for 30 years (quit 12 or 13 years ago) so it's not like I don't know what addiction is like. But that was my choice. People have to take responsibility for their own decisions and actions. Just because tobacco companies can't be sued how does that mean "there can now be no liability for any product"? :shrug:

[sam sarrha]

11. about 90% of smokers get addicted as CHILDREN... that is the point

children are not able to make effective choices with this substance

it is proven that the industry targets children

[flyingfysh]

5. selling tobacco is also a choice

so why should tobacco companies be exempt from the consequences of selling that stuff? They choose to sell, they should be liable for damages.

[uberblonde]

6. That isn't what the ruling said.

They said there were too many variations for this to be a valid CLASS-ACTION suit, but that plaintiffs could pursue individual civil suits for damages.

[papau]

7. NOT a valid CLASS-ACTION suit- but you can sue - was point I was

going to make also - but I am slow this morning :-)

But without class action the size of the tobacco money for legal defense means individual suits can not "win" anything - so no law firm with finance the multi-year effort.

Effectively the tobacco folks get a free get out of jail forever on any charge card.

[sam sarrha]

9. what i said..

[Toots]

8. But all those tobacco advocates are "Pro-Life"

We are "Anti" war. We are the "Anti" people and those killers are the "Pro" people. Semantics, it is important..