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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:42 PM
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Open Letter to Aurora Dairy from a concerned consumer

Aurora dairy, for thos unfamiliar with it, is just like horizon, organic in name only.

Open Letter to Aurora Dairy from a concerned consumer

* By Jeff Miller
June 27, 2006

Dear Aurora Dairy,

I'm just an ordinary urban middle-class consumer who finds this statement to be patronizing, insulting and dismissive:

"Aurora spokeswoman Amy Barr said organic standards shouldn't be based on an 'image of Old MacDonald's Farm' held by people who may never have been on a farm." (source: Yahoo article - 06/27/06)

Nor should organic standards be based on an image of living beings as just another profitable renewable resource to be factory-farmed like the poultry industry. People don't need to visit a farm to know that living beings need open space...not just for the quality of milk, but for the quality of life of the provider.

Buyers of organic dairy products understand that there is an ethical problem with cutting off consideration of the quality of life. It's not all about the quality of the milk, or the precise physical health of the milk provider. It's about the intangible qualities of life that all living beings share a need for. That may be inconvenient for a corporation to consider, but if your market demographic does, you'd better too.

And yes, I've read your entire web site, and even understood it. Both its strengths and obvious weaknesses and spin.

The organic demographic is apparently smarter, more informed and more ethically aware than both Amy and Aurora Organic Dairy know. I've never boycotted anything but I'm starting with Costco, Safeway, Giant and Wild Oats organic milk.

First rule of marketing: Understand the people that buy your products.

"Organic" is not just another corporate marketing niche...it's a set of ethical values. I know that's a bit alien for corporate types to understand, but I think they should get used to it to protect their bottom line, which is made vulnerable by exploitation tactics and dismissive press statements.

Also, disabling the Contact Us page isn't fooling anyone...it just damages your credibility and trust even more.

Best regards,

Jeff Miller

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:46 PM
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1. While I understand your issue . . .
. . . don't you think you're being naiive to think that you will EVER be able to buy the milk you're talking about in a supermarket? Why do you think you can go organic and not change your own life, too? That tends to be what everyone wants - everything organic, but don't make me change how I shop. Don't make me go to a farm. No, make the supermarket chain figure out how to guarantee supply for thousands of customers and still buy milk from Molly the Milkmaid.

I just can't see how it can happen.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:51 PM
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3. What about Co-ops?
Co-ops server the community and don't serve some large corporate board.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:52 PM
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4. I buy Clover Organic...
...in many supermarket. They are a very highly rated, high quality, ethical dairy.

It happens every day...
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:08 PM
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5. It can be done.
I used to live across the river from a wonderful organic dairy. You could visit any time and meet the cows who made your milk. The dairy distributed their butter and milk (organic, pasteurized, non-homogenized in returnable glass bottles) to at least a dozen run-of-the-mill grocery stores in a three-county area. It's not uncommon in rural and semi-rural areas.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:39 PM
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6. organic valley is a co-op that is
trustworthy. that's why if if you ever see horizon and OV brands next to each other OV is usually a few cents more. buy a quart of both and you'll agree the OV is well worth the extra cost. horizon, aurora and the other industrial'organic dairies are still buying calves that have been given antibiotics and weaned on milk from cows that may have been given rbgh and crammed into feedlot style pasture, not naturally grazed.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:40 PM
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7. OK OK I GIVE!
I'm glad to hear I was wrong. Sadly, we have none of these companies around here. :-(

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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:42 PM
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11. Organic Valley isn't available in Denver? They have very good
practices.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:04 PM
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12. Nope.
And you would think we'd have access to organic stuff here, so close to granola Boulder.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:23 PM
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13. There are 2 Whole Foods in Denver. It carries Org. Valley. here's a link
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 08:27 PM by lindisfarne
http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/list_CO.html

See other msgs in this thread for a link to cornucopia's evaluation of organic dairies.
Of course, buying any organic is better than buying conventional, but if you're concerned about the way cows are treated and are opposed to factory farms, and the resulting pollution (mainly from the way they handle manure), some organic is better than others.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:27 PM
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14. But I just went because of this thread!
And I didn't see it! Hmmm. Maybe they were out?
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:30 PM
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15. Interesting. I just called the Cherry Creek store in Denver and indeed,
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 08:33 PM by lindisfarne
they carry Organic Valley milk. Sometimes supplies get low and one option runs out, but it's rare that they're out of all varieties (fat free, low fat, regular, chocolate milk, etc.)

Organic Valley *is* more expensive than other, equally good (in terms of treatment of cows) brands - I buy Clover at my Whole Foods which is cheaper (Clover isn't available much beyond CA though).
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:41 PM
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10. See dairy ratings at this link and you'll understand that it can happen
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:48 PM
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2. Where is Aurora Dairy?
California? Do they sell to Costco?
I'm all about family farming.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:38 PM
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8. Aurora dairy supplies some of CostCo's and Trader Joe's dairy products.
Organic is still better than conventional, but if you care about how the cows are treated, look for another organic supplier. (not Horizon).
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:40 PM
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9. See the link below for ratings of org.dairies on how they treat cows.
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