Anyone watching Carlos Mencia "No strings attached"

[RB TexLa]

Carlos Mencia is great. Talking about "who is going to build this fence on the border?"

[al bupp]

1. "God has a sense of humor...

and if you don't believe me, go to Walmart and see the people there."

What a hoot. I actually have tears in my eyes!

[RB TexLa]

2. I love "if you don't shut up, I'm going to ruin the ending"

[Yollam]

3. Really? I can't stand the bastard.

Unfunny and freeperish, but with a cholo accent.

[lonestarnot]

4. Honduran

[Yollam]

5. He still uses the cholo accent.

Especially when he first started, it was all "ese" this and "vato" that...

[lonestarnot]

6. He's hispanic, what you don't like hispanic culture?

He's about the only fucking hispanic who has his own fucking show. Leave him alone ese.

[Yollam]

7. LOL. You're joking, right?

Look at my avatar. I grew up on the border. I have nothing against hispanics, or even cholos for that matter. It was simply an observation.

I don't like Mencia because he is freeperish and unfunny. He tries to play it populist with the cholo act, but he is still a freeper, pushing judgmental upper-middle-class values.

[lonestarnot]

9. Well I find him neither freeperish nor unfunny, and any fucking

hispanic who has an act will be pigeoned holed, and he's not pushing shit. Turn him off.

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[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Well now maybe his TV is one of those with no dial

:)

[lonestarnot]

Do they make those? Maybe he hasn't learned to click

[fishwax]

24. or perhaps he can both change the channel and

still manage to comment on the subject when it comes up on a message board. :shrug:

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. Well he obviously hasn't been changing that channel

since he knows so much about Mencia.

[fishwax]

33. One doesn't have to listen to much of Mencia to figure him out

His act is not exactly layered with subtlety.

Anyway, one can both change the channel on Mencia and choose to comment when the subject comes up on a Discussion Board. It's not like Yollam has called for Mencia to be silenced (that I've seen, anyway).

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. How is he a freeper?

:popcorn:

This ought to be good, coming from an expert and all. :eyes:

[lonestarnot]

13. Lol ... waiting for this

:popcorn:

[Yollam]

16. He puts right-wing crap into all of his bits.

I don't know how you could miss it.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1444206/posts


Defending racial profiling:

''If the worst thing happening to Middle Eastern people is that Carlos Mencia is doing a joke about them being stopped at airports, that's a pretty awesome state of affairs,'' he said. ''When's the last time you heard about a Middle Eastern person being beaten to death?''



Also:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5478891

· Morning Edition starts a week-long series on the immigration debate and starts off today laughing. Enter Carlos Mencia of Comedy Central fame. His father is Honduran and is mother is Mexican, but as he tells Steve Inskeep, he can trace a lineage back to the Cayman Islands, England and Germany. Mencia does what he calls "compassionate comedy" and says he is a conservative who is pro-immigration.

Mostly, he just seems practical, as when he finds he has to discard words like "Hispanic," "Latino," and "Chicano," in favor of his default label: "Beaner."


Carlos Mencia can kiss my fucking ass.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. A conservative who is pro immigration? LOL

And you believe it - that is even funnier.

:rofl:

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55. He does have a lot

of very bigoted shades in his bits. There was one where he was yelling at a black guy in a wheelchair, "if it wasn't for this chair, you'd probably be standing on the corner with your homies!" and also "you wouldn't get a job anyway, so your paralysis doesn't matter!". There's a lot more, but he does cross the line between insensitive and downright bigoted.

That's just my opinion.

[proud2BlibKansan]

60. Just like Dave Chapelle and Chris Rock

Yet I don't see anyone calling them freepers.

[al bupp]

19. I don't think everything Mencia says is funny

But I think you're over-simplifying his act. The stuff on anti-immigrantionists is right on. Not at all freeperish.

[lonestarnot]

21. Thanks for weighing in al bupp and welcome to DU.

[Yollam]

22. Immigration is not a right-left issue.

Huge majorities on both the right and the left oppose illegal immigration, and that includes large majorities of hispanics. The right's reasons for opposing illegal immigration stem from their fear and hatred of other races and cultural change. The left's opposition to illegal immigrations is based on the well-founded principle that importing huge numbers of cheap laborers tends to weaken the position of working people to get better jobs and pay.


And it's not his comments on immigration that bug me. It's his crap legitimizing war and racial profiling and blaming poor people for poverty, etc.

very freeperish.

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[Yollam]

27. Stop calling people freepers.

NT.

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[Yollam]

34. Mencia is a freeper

Calling other posters freepers is against posting rules, not to mention rude, not to mention a huge fucking lie in this case.

[Bridget Burke]

61. Does he post on Freerepublic?

I don't know, since I don't hang out over there. Not surprising that his immigration opinions displease you.

You claim to know so much about him--but have rarely seen his show. I don't watch it much, myself. But Mencia has made me laugh.

[Yollam]

62. It's his hate for the poor and support of Bush and the war I hate.

He's entitled to his opinion on Immigration. Lots of rich republicans who exploit illegal aliens agree with him.

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. You think your avatar proves you have nothing against Hispanics?

Here's a great big DU FYI: It's your WORDS that tell us how you feel, not a picture of Caesar Chavez.

[Yollam]

35. It doesn't "prove" anything.

It says about me that I care first and foremost about working people, like Cesar Chavez did. And that includes Hispanic people, on whose behalf Chavez worked tirelessly until his death.

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[Yollam]

37. BULL. SHIT.

Show me one link to these "many threads".

[Yollam]

38. Come on, Proud2blib, where is it?

I want to see the post where I attacked hispanics in ANY WAY.

Where do you get off lying about and smearing other posters?

I'm waiting...

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[Yollam]

53. Thank you for conceding that you are a liar and smear artist.

My avatar has been Chavez since long before the whole phony GOP "immigration debate" ever popped up.

You cannot produce any "anti-hispanic" posts by myself because there ARE NO SUCH POSTS. I have made my position clear on many occasions that I believe that illegal immigrants should be deported and the border enforced because that is the law and their presence has a detrimental effect on labor bargaining power. They help keep wages low for American workers and legal immigrants, including hispanic American workers. I have also stated that the immigrants themselves are not the culprits here but that the greedy rich white GOP businesses that knowingly employ illegals are at fault 100% for creating the demand for cheap illegal labor. My focus on immigration has always been on the business owners, not the immigrants themselves, who are victims of economic circumstance. I am not in favor of changing the laws that grant citizenship to children born in the US, thus allowing illegals a chance to stay, nor am I a proponent of "English Only" policies.

In other words, I have no intention of proving to this community that you are someone other than who we see here, ragging against immigrants and immigration on a continual basis. The truth is that you dishonor Caesar Chavez. Living on the border at some point in your life does not automatically make you a friend to immigrants, and neither does that picture.

The problem is that you lie and make up accusations out of whole cloth. I have never "ragged on immigrants" in any way, shape or form. I am an immigrant right now, living legally in Japan, and I am fluent in the language. I respect immigrants. You use them as a bludgeon for your own bizarre political agenda. There is no reason to even believe that you "help immigrants in your community". You probably work at the DMV and are just twisting and distorting again. I've been nothing but straightforward and you've done nothing but lie and make shit up. I have never ragged on immigrants - I think we should treat immigrants who are legally in the states like kings and queens. There should be more help available with free English lessons and multilingual outreach to help those who are living in poverty. I believe in everything Cesar Chavez stood for.

Chavez knew that unchecked illegal immigration was detrimental to labor solidarity and was against it.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/033106H.shtml

You are a liar and you have no morals about posting made-up smears just for fun. Just because a person has a principled position regarding immigration does not make them "anti-hispanic", nor does the dislike of a freeper comedian who happens to be half-hispanic, nor does pointing out the fact that he affects a cholo accent in his comedy act.

And I grew up in El Paso with nothing but Mexican friends. I didn't just visit there. It will always be my hometown. You talk a lot of shit and have zero ethics. Please don't talk to me anymore.

[RB TexLa]

57. be careful, some people here don't like when they are referred to as

human beings. They find that term offensive.

[Yollam]

40. George Lopez had his own show...

And Lopez is a class act compared to Mencia.


And if the only black man on TV was a fascist, I'd hate his ass, too.
And if the only lesbian woman on TV was a fascist, I'd hate her ass, too.
And if the white man on TV was a fascist, I'd hate his ass, too.

etc. I have to like someone because he's hispanic? Get outta here.

[fishwax]

23. i don't think he's funny either

I think he says a lot of conservative and/or reactionary shit, under the guise of resisting political correctness.

I gave up watching him a long time ago, but the last time I saw him speak on immigration on some other show he was on the mark about that, at least.

[Yollam]

26. Don't bother.

These two are tag-teaming to promote the freeper comedian.

They probably don't think South Park is freeperish either.

:eyes:

[fishwax]

31. I especially love how he claims he's "edgy"

because he says the shit that rednecks are generally too well behaved to say. The first time I saw his routine, he ended it with a five-minute homily about how the problem with America today was that white people couldn't make fun of minorities the same way he could.

But I tell ya, nothing will start a flame war like saying something bad about an entertainer other people like. I mean, god forbid if somebody raves about Mencia on the most contentious forum of a liberal discussion board, someone like you should come in and start ruining it by discussing his politics. With evidence, no less. ;)

[Digit]

39. Cannot tolerate him for more than one second.

He is just hateful and who needs that?

[malaise]

50. Ditto -a truly awful man n/t

[manic expression]

56. Same here

he shows himself to be a RW sack of crap in many instances.

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. He is hilarious.

I need to start taping that show.

[lonestarnot]

11. I catch him every now and again, and I have laughed my ass off at him.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. I saw a story about him

I think it was on MSNBC. His name isn't really Carlos, it is some very nonHispanic name, like Paul or Bob (sorry can't remember).

Yes, he is friggin hilarious.

[lonestarnot]

17. Hmmm. Now I'm curious. Will find the answer to the real Carlos.

[tallahasseedem]

29. His real name is Ned,

He from Honduras, not Mexico like he lets on.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

41. ya, ya, ya

did he get to the part about talking to the Middle Eastern guy yet? How we dropped bombs on Japan... "that's how we play the game!"

He's funny for about 3 minutes, then it just gets sick.

Equal opportunity hate... not for me. :(

[FVZA_Colonel]

42. I've laughed sometimes, but I do have a problem with him:

It really seems like he uses the "you're too PC" comeback way too much whenever the audience doesn't laugh at a joke. Maybe he doesn't really think they are this way, and it is all part of a larger bit he has created, but I cannot be sure of this, as I have not seen enough of him to make a sound judgement. All I can say is that perhaps the audience wasn't "too PC" for that joke. Perhaps it just wasn't funny.

[MirrorAshes]

43. Oh god, he sucks so bad. He's a total thief and fraud, too.

Anyone read Joe Rogan's blog writeup about him? I could care less about Rogan, but he seems to take this pretty seriously. Check it out-
http://www.joerogan.net/main.php?archives=1&article=44170

[Yollam]

44. Joe Rogan must be a freeper and a liar.

After all, he used the word "cocksucker" on his blog, therefore he's a homophobe and freeper by extension. Therefore, we mustn't look at any of the proof he presents of Mencia's plagiarism.

:eyes: :sarcasm:

[Red Right and BLUE]

45. The first time I saw Carlos Mencia

he was going off on how we have the craziest soldiers, which is a good thing because we have to kill the crazy terrorists and then he said something nice about W (can't remember what). That's when I changed the channel. He's funny sometimes, but -

My first impression? Freeper; Bush bootlicker.

[musiclawyer]

46. Boy, does this thread prove how misunderstood Mencia is

Mencia is totally misunderstood. Being a native Los Angeleno, I've always been shocked he has a national show, not because he's not good (to me he's way funnier and clever than Dave Chappel), but rather because his humor is so parochial. His humor is totally west coast. There is no way someone on the east coast who's never been out here, especially a non-latino, gets some of his punchlines and remarks. It's very subtle. That being said:

He never disguises his nationality. Many times, he comments about being Honduran, even differntiating what a Mexican would do from other latinos in certain situations

Most importantly, he's no way conservative. He's politically neutral. If anything he's more like Stephen Colbert, perhaps even more satirical but with much more irreverance and freedom to express (not just sitting behind a desk). If you think anything else, you simply have not watched every single one of his shows.

I'm glad comedy central has given him a platform. If you ever saw the "Wetback Mountain" piece, you understand Mencia's particular genius.

[w8liftinglady]

47. I love Mencia-and thought 'Wetback Mountain" was hilarious.

Mencia never struck me as anything but a comedian.He appears to try to agitate people on both sides of the fence.

[Yollam]

48. I'm from a border town and a longtime west coast resident.

And I disagree that he is non-partisan. He's openly conservative, including the NPR interview I posted where he says so. I also don't agree that he's funny - which is why I've only seen 3 or 4 of his show. His unfunniness and right-leaning worldview was a huge turnoff, especially his constant insistence that the only reason anyone in America is not rich is because they are just LAZY.

I saw the wetback mountain thing, and yes, it was funny, because it's totally unpolitical ethnic humor, but whenever he approaches anything political, it's from the rightwing worldview.

And as funny as the skit was, I wouldn't call it "genius".

[Red Right and BLUE]

49. Oh boy

"If anything he's more like Stephen Colbert"

:rofl:


Let's not insult Mr. Colbert tooo much.

[proud2BlibKansan]

52. I think he is a lot like Colbert as well

and we all know how well the RW understands Colbert. LOL

[Yollam]

54. He's the opposite of Colbert

Colbert is a progressive who parodies right-wing talking heads. Mencia is a conservative who pretends to be a "regular guy".

[Hobarticus]

58. This year's Colin Quinn...

Yet another unfunny sanctimonious "comedian" who thinks being an asshole is "edgy". His fifteen minutes will be up, soon enough.

[nonconformist]

59. I've watched Mencia a few times on Comedy Central

I didn't think he was very funny and yes, I found many of his "jokes" annoying, insulting, and even downright right-wing.

I didn't know anything about him, but the first time I watched him I was taken aback by several things that he said. I don't like his racist-tinged stereotypical diatribes and I don't like how he portrays the Hispanic community, particularly Mexican-Americans. Yeah, I get that's he's supposed to be "edgy" and "offensive to everyone"... I get it because he keeps reminding me that he's "edgy". Maybe so, and I'm not overly PC, but he's not funny. To me, parroting stereotypes doesn't make one funny, it makes them uncreative. I especially don't his jokes about Iraq - he has a VERY gung-ho "let's kick some Arab ass" attitude that I cannot STAND. His jokes about "ask Japan about that" are just soooo original and hilarious. :sarcasm:

[rniel]

63. I have sit through his whole show and nothing in it was funny

I like all the other stuff on comedy central, but his humor is just not my type I guess. I think he's just a mexican version of larry the cable guy or something like that.