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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 03:19 PM
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In honor of flag burning monday-A list of Rights we've lost under GW Bush.
Courtesy, and with much thanks, to Chuck Baldwin. It's a year old link-but damn it, it's pertinent to today. I just think we need to be reminded just how much these bastards are eroding our freedoms.


FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.

RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.

FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.

RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.

RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 03:27 PM
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1. FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION
Don't forget free speech zones
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 04:13 PM
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2. These lost rights are but piffles to true-believers, but don't mess with
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 04:14 PM by indepat
their second amendment right to have cannons on their hips.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:23 AM
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4. not any more. Who needs a cannon on your hip
when you've got a rocket in your pocket, eh Rush?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:02 AM
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 03:52 AM
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5. In the words of William Reece Smith, Jr
"We must remember that a right lost to one is lost to all."
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:11 AM
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6. First They Came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.


Get it?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:27 AM
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8. Mmmmmm, Smells Like Teen Spirit
:evilgrin:
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:35 AM
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9. All for one, one for all. If it happens to you? Nothing much YOU can do,
like the people in gitmo, help can only really reach them from the outside. One can be made so helpless that they can no longer help themselves, but no chains can be made by humman hands that cannot be removed by human hands.

So 'what to do' the answer is to fight for the ones already under. Help people to help themselves. Add what you can to the dem campaign. That is what to do.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:35 AM
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10. What odd questions.
Deserves its own thread.

A poll, even.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:44 AM
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11. Only after
he settles the Godzilla Eats Chicago question. Important things first.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1509343#1509827
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:58 AM
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14. Oh my.
Did somebody call Dominoes?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:01 AM
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15. Not me
He's hilarious. I don't mind if he stays :D
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:04 AM
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16. Speaking of hilarious,
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:11 AM
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17. I cracked that one open. Once.
Got vertigo just looking at it. Creeeepy thread. I recall a couple of others from that OP that ended up the same way. Some people are mysteries to me.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:22 AM
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19. Oh but we had fun!
Very rare, threads like that.

More like a free for all, but still...
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:29 AM
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20. Oh yeah, I can see that
You, Maddie, Buffy and the others are a hoot :)

But the OP is like that liquid cop in Terminator 2, unstoppable. It's really weird to watch such relentless hi-octane monomania.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:26 AM
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7. If you truly want to be scared...just read Patriot Act II.
:scared: :tinfoilhat:

It is fucking scary and we are essentially a dictatorship. Most Americans just don't know it yet.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:52 AM
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12. I prefer to think of it as government of the corporations ,
for the corporations, by the corporations all facilitated by a centralized government, a winner take all style democracy that creates a permanent two-party system, and the ever popular entrenched special interests. Endless supplies of fiat money probably hasn't helped either but that's another topic entirely.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 04:55 AM
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13. One of my buttons says...
The earth belongs to
nobody.
humans.
Americans
corporations.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:16 AM
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18. Don't forget about the increasing number of multi-national corporations
They're a MUCH bigger threat to our democracy in my opinion.
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