Republicons want to take down nyt like they did rather..

[butterfly77]

I heard that hugh hewitt talking about it so, why doesn't the nyt and washington post start outing these senators secrets for 2006

[Atman]

1. They will. They will.

These Washington fuckheads don't seem to realize that their dreams of a total fascist state have not yet been realized. They haven't yet managed to secure the Fourth Estate, despite their hard work toward that goal. They began burning their bridges before they'd even fully crossed them. And they'll fall far, far, far because of it.

[butterfly77]

2. I keep wondering this everytime they talk about the ..

liberal media and then he has the nerve to say something about cbs and others. I know that a lot of these people and their family members run in the same circles. With all of the layoffs I heard about at NYT and others you would have thought this would have happened after Rather and they brag and laugh about it the dirty bastards.

[katty]

9. true, true-they are screwed, nyt/wapo should spill all the beans

[butterfly77]

10. Do you think they will?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

3. Yes. I will remind disparagers of the Times

that they are the ones who ran the Joe Wilson op-ed which started the whole Plame thing.
Along with the many other progressive writers such as Krugman and Herbert and important stories they run, it's a fairly important national media insitution through which liberals can and do air their views
The right would love to take it down.

[butterfly77]

6. THESE BASTARDS THINK THEY CAN CONTROL

EVERYTHING. WHAT IS THE SENSE OF HAVING A FREE PRESS IF THEY ARE GOING TO CONTROL IT AND HOW THE MESSAGE IS PRESENTED. DON'T GET ME WRONG I AM ANGRY AT THE MEDIA FOR SHIELDING THIS PUNK FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS AND HIDING INFO.

[coalition_unwilling]

11. They also broke My Lai oh so many years ago.

And The Pentagon Papers.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

4. Which is amazing...

...since for the most part NYT toes the corporate GOP line, certainly in news coverage they do.

[cali]

13. No. They. Don't.

I read the Times every freakin' day. Have for years. Sometimes they screw up badly- Miller and holding the NSA story- but they don't tow a corporate GOP agenda in their news coverage. The right has hated the NYT for a long, long time, and now the left has decided that they're the enemy too. We need the Times, and if we're too stupid to recognize that fact, we really are hopeless.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

16. Indeed you are correct!

Thanks for a sane perspective!

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

17. I think their lack of the kind of...

...investigative journalism that we so sorely need today is tantamount to toeing the corporate GOP line. To characterize the Miller and NSA debacles as screw ups is not accurate. Those were examples of NYT willfully not doing its job because those in authority their didn't see it as in their best interests. Where has NYT been on election fraud? Two consecutive stolen presidential elections, where have they been? What honest investigative reporting have they produced on 9-11? These are areas screaming for credible, hard hitting investigative journalism and they're not delivering it.

That said, I do think they produce some enlightened, quality editorials and have some good columnists.

[dalloway]

23. bravo for saying it!

[Betsy Ross]

5. It would seem to me that the NYT article was a good thing.

If the "terrists" know we are watching international money transactions they might have to look for another way to move money which is not such an easy thing to do. Or is it?

[butterfly77]

8. Are the terrorist that stupid ..

that they don't know that they are watching all transactions

[Canuckistanian]

21. Terorrists are far more savvy and aware

Cetainly much more than the Chimp thinks they are.

[underpants]

7. Without the NYT Dick and Rummy wouldn't have gotten their war

Judith Miller was the tool they used and worked over to get their BS onto the NYT front page everyday. Well look what they did with her, they tossed her like the dishrag she is. They are trying to do the same with the NYT- everyday check the online Times and see how often the above the fold stories lead the nightly national news casts (about 90% of the time). Like it or not everyone in the media still follows the NYT and WaPo.

What the right has tried to do over the years is a two tiered strategy.

1- manipulate what is on the front page of the NYT through press (you aren't LIBERAL MEDIA are you?) or plants (Miller).

2- now it is time to take it down. They need to create their own "new truth" and the NYT still stands in the way.

Lastly check out the Nazi and White Supremists rants about how Jews control the media and compare it to the RW hatred of the Jew York Times. To say they are parallel is an understatement.

[butterfly77]

12. I don't see why they call it a liberal media ..

When there is a mixture of both parties and some of them shield bushco.

[devilgrrl]

14. NYT doesn't want to hurt * before November.

Wait a few weeks afterward, the truth will be revealed then when it's too late.

[butterfly77]

15. I can believe that...

that would be too good to be true.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

19. Right. That's why they ran the Al-Qaqaa weapons dump story

one week before the Bush/Kerry election. Cache of Explosives Vanished From Site in Iraq

[BuyingThyme]

18. This is just another limited hangout. The NYT works for Bush.

They did the exact same thing with the NSA. They sat on the information until there was need to get ahead of somebody else's story or book. (And they sat on it long enough to assure that Bush's re-election efforts would not be hindered.)

This is similar to the strategy Specter uses over and over and over.

How many times do they have to pull this crap before somebody gets it?

[goclark]

20. Yes! These RepubliCONS are setting up the NYT to take down

the city.

IMO, there is an under the belly reason that they came out so hard on the NYT and it is NOT because of the data.

The NYT knows everything about DIEBOLD and all the rest.

If they had a real spine they would print it.

[leftofthedial]

22. sorry, but the Times has already done a fine job of taking themselves down

they have been tools of the neocons for over a decade now.

[rucky]

24. How far will the publishers sell out their reporters?

We've already seen them tout the party line with the Judith Miller types,

but will the people at the top leave their editorial staff hanging with charges of "treason"?